allyo Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 (edited) I thought Jamie Dolan was a good player for us. Liked McGrillen too but agree he was a bit inconsistent. Edited August 31, 2013 by allyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Thistle Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 ..liked Craig. will never understand it all. But in Archie we trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bgcjag Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 I don't think Archie made a mistake letting Stevie go but he may have made a mistake in not finding an adequate replacement. Baird is not showing anything yet and will have to improve considerably to prove his worth in the team. On today's showing it was the wrong call to start him before Doolan. No it wasnt, we were brilliant and won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 I thought Jamie Dolan was a good player for us. Liked McGrillen too but agree he was a bit inconsistent. Wrong. Jamie Dolan was an excellent player for us. RIP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 I happen to agree with the op to an extent. There have so many balls flashed in from sincy and o donnel that last year son of joe was tapping in. I think we would have beaten Hearts if he'd been playing. And maybe equalised vs Motherwell. Who knows? But I do think he would improve our options if we still had him, but we don't, got to trust archie, he knows what he's doing. This. If Craig isn't good enough for the Premiership then Baird isn't either IMO. And this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Having a quick glance at the St Mirren v Jags thread and this one I see Baird is being made today's scapegoat. Finding it strange not just for the obvious reason we won and thus don't need a scapegoat but those slating him weren't even at the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck snort Posted August 31, 2013 Report Share Posted August 31, 2013 Having a quick glance at the St Mirren v Jags thread and this one I see Baird is being made today's scapegoat. Finding it strange not just for the obvious reason we won and thus don't need a scapegoat but those slating him weren't even at the match. I thought Baird's movement was first class today. He makes some really intelligent runs. He should have taken the chance just after half time and definitely needs a goal but think he'll be a useful player for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I thought Baird's movement was first class today. He makes some really intelligent runs. He should have taken the chance just after half time and definitely needs a goal but think he'll be a useful player for us. I'm reluctant to be critical given the results since Archie took over - however, I think Baird's wage could have been better spent elsewhere - we need someone up front that will give us goals and I can't see Baird delivering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry gaz Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 What Craig was brilliant at was just stepping away , and peeling of from defenders in the box to make a yard of space for a tap in.Baird and Doolan aren't doing this enough.Baird's usual run into the box usually has him ending up between two giant defenders with no chance of a header and Dools never seems to check out of a run to change direction to make space to lose his marker.Neither are the biggest so they will both need to be a lot smarter in how they are operating.Its maybe not a new striker we need but a new forwards coach.I'd be hoping arch and shaggy are really analizing what is happening up front.I've never seen any Thistle team put so many crosses into the box for so little return. For what its worth I think Craig would have had three or four goals this season by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Easy for us to say, with the benefit of hindsight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 .Its maybe not a new striker we need but a new forwards coach.I'd be hoping arch and shaggy are really analizing what is happening up front.I've never seen any Thistle team put so many crosses into the box for so little return. I agree with this. But only if you meant analysing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I agree with this. But only if you meant analysing! Surely Son of Joe was not unknown for sticking out his bahookie into a centre back behind him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stevenson Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Its maybe not a new striker we need but a new forwards coach. Billy Dodds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 What Craig was brilliant at was just stepping away , and peeling of from defenders in the box to make a yard of space for a tap in.Baird and Doolan aren't doing this enough.Baird's usual run into the box usually has him ending up between two giant defenders with no chance of a header and Dools never seems to check out of a run to change direction to make space to lose his marker.Neither are the biggest so they will both need to be a lot smarter in how they are operating.Its maybe not a new striker we need but a new forwards coach.I'd be hoping arch and shaggy are really analizing what is happening up front.I've never seen any Thistle team put so many crosses into the box for so little return. For what its worth I think Craig would have had three or four goals this season by now. Craig would never have been given the same amount of time by the opposition as the SPL is far faster than the first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) Craig would never have been given the same amount of time by the opposition as the SPL is far faster than the first I tend to agree with you but at the same time I think the argument for retaining Craig may well have some merit. I'm fairly sure Archie didn't offer him a contract due to his age and the fact he'd need to be playing regularly to retain match fitness. Archie might have done otherwise if he knew he wasn't going to get someone in offering something similar.Someone younger and able to come and go in the team easier. Using hindsight perhaps Archie doesn't even know if he made the right decision. As I've said I feel on balance he was correct but can easily see why others will disagree. What I can't understand is the logic behind folk using the fact that if Baird or Doolan don't get their name on the scoresheet, regardless of how they play, that Craig or A N Other (the mystery big strong guaranteeing X goals a season striker) would've scored additional goals. I find that thinking almost as mysterious as the mystery striker's identity. Edited September 1, 2013 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin energy Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 (edited) Thought When we played Cowdenbeth, Kane Hemmings looked good took his goal very well scored 6 goals already, should we have signed him? Edited September 1, 2013 by kevin energy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stevenson Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 Thought When we played Cowdenbeth, Kane Hemmings looked good took his goal very well scored 6 goals already, should we have signed him? Well of the trialist forwards I saw in the pre-season games, he was the best. But presumably not what Archie was looking for. He scored Cowdenbeath's winner yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 I've suggested elsewhere that there has to be something on the negative side about Hemmings we don't know about. I agree he looked fine on trial. Just because we knocked him back shouldn't have meant him signing for a part time club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunnylaw Jag Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 With 38 (Yes THIRTY EIGHT) corners this season (11 today) a bit more aerial presence in the box may pay off Just looked at Craig's goal for Wycombe on Saturday coming from a Corner of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 How bad was the marking? Reckon these English lower leagues aren't what we sometimes crack them up to be. Good on him though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
read'n'yell Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 To be honest, that is exactly what we need just now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 (edited) To be honest, that is exactly what we need just now. Ach away. We don't need anything. We're walking this league. It's not like he's a revelation. We've all seen him. He was a decent player for us last season but he wasn't anything special. I think it's just because he plays in England that everyone suddenly rates him more highly. Anyway, we know nothing about behind the scenes, how much he was paid, how he fitted with the squad, what his personal situation was. All sorts of potential reasons why it may not have suited. Edited September 2, 2013 by allyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgow Posted September 2, 2013 Report Share Posted September 2, 2013 Looking at those highlights, have Sky extended The Crossbar Challenge to actual games now? ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry gaz Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Looking at Craig's goals for us onutube you can see clearly what he does that Dools and Baird dont.Before the ball comes to him he steps back away from his marker or sharply changed the angle of his run.He always seemed to be standing in a yard of free space when he scored Dools, of course, scored plenty for us but a lot of these were running straight in on goals.As I said before a bit of good forward coaching might improve both Baird and Dools out of sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peagreenboy Posted September 3, 2013 Report Share Posted September 3, 2013 Mmm. Lovely terracing behind the goal. Could see just the same thing at the City End! Oh, wait ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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