javeajag Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 a complete shambles today from start to finish.... We are now on a bad run and heading down the table So should we stick with archie or take a 'brave' decision ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarencegarter Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nixon Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Most of the players can go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I really don't think he should go. There's a lot of players who should go, before him though. The decision ultimately sits with the board. And their decision will tell the fans who is more important in their eyes, the players or the manager. Right now there are players out there putting our club's status in jeopardy. Through their performances. It doesn't matter who the manager is, there's guys there who don't care, about the club, about the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 sadly he has to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankey Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I really don't think he should go. There's a lot of players who should go, before him though. The decision ultimately sits with the board. And their decision will tell the fans who is more important in their eyes, the players or the manager. Right now there are players out there putting our club's status in jeopardy. Through their performances. It doesn't matter who the manager is, there's guys there who don't care, about the club, about the fans. Which players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Which players? Seaborne, Frans, Osman, Fraser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarencegarter Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I see lawless tweeted "Time for a change of scenery" so I think lawless will be one that goes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
read'n'yell Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Seaborne, Frans, Osman, Fraser. Rubbish. Elliot is the one to go. Useless. Archie to stay but he needs to learn fast and change it up. We need a striking coach. Archie hasn't learned and that's the worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggyMad Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Rubbish. Elliot is the one to go. Useless. Archie to stay but he needs to learn fast and change it up. We need a striking coach. Archie hasn't learned and that's the worry. Elliott isn't the answer to the question I was asked. Read it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 We are stuck with the players we have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) Wouldn't imagine there is a chance in hell of him losing his job. I never ever envisaged us being automatically relegated at any time this season, but now I think there is a real chance. If that happens he should go Edited February 21, 2015 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Seaborne, Frans, Osman, Fraser. Plus Higgy & SoD can piss off now, they don't care 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 a complete shambles today from start to finish.... We are now on a bad run and heading down the table So should we stick with archie or take a 'brave' decision ? I understand your sentiment, but we aren't heading down the table as we still have a 7 point cushion, effectively 8 due to our better goal difference and St.M and Motherwell haven't caught up any ground in our poor recent run. But it is certainly worrying times and I am not sure what changing the manager would achieve right now - or who is available at a price we could afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Brent Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Go. Get Stuart McCall in 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinKelvin Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Archie's seemingly random team selections, weird love of Elliot and (until today) Bannigan, failure to play Lawless, and overseeing of our dreadful record of conceding late, late goals have severely eroded my belief in him or willingness to defend him. I've just about had enough. However, I'm not convinced we could attract or afford anyone capable of quickly turning things around - and despite this nightmare start to the year so far (apart from the Accies game), I still wouldn't pull the trigger. We are 7 points clear of 3 fellow strugglers. The players need to wake up and start trying much much harder. We know what they are capable of, and they should be ashamed of themselves atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Go. Get Stuart McCall in He would never come to us. Similar to Paul Hartley at Alloa, I think Ian Murray's done all he can at Dumbarton and would probably see us as an ideal club to move on to. If we got rid of Archie, I'd be up for him coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nixon Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 (edited) I understand your sentiment, but we aren't heading down the table as we still have a 7 point cushion, effectively 8 due to our better goal difference and St.M and Motherwell haven't caught up any ground in our poor recent run. But it is certainly worrying times and I am not sure what changing the manager would achieve right now - or who is available at a price we could afford. Who can see us picking up any more points before the split? At the very best we will still be seven points clear at that point. Afterwards we will have to play St Mirren and Ross County, two teams who have recently beaten us at home - one comfortably. Anyone see us beating Motherwell the way we played today? So that's nine points right there - I fear being sucked under and drowning. Edited February 21, 2015 by Richard Nixon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestreets Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 go.. sadly.. but with his tactics and team selections and the macmillan gate saga clearly all mounting up and showing in these last 10-12 games .. we need some wins and the way we are going I do not see much light at end of the tunnel. GO NOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Seaborne, Frans, Fraser and Higgy are not poor players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Seaborne, Frans, Fraser and Higgy are not poor players. They aren't, you're right. However they are playing well below their ability. they aren't concentrating, they aren't performing at their best. They are selling the fans short. There are players behind them who will give more. Maybe not as gifted, but they will fight. I'd actually say Higgy did try today. I'd say Banzo did too when they came on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 I understand your sentiment, but we aren't heading down the table as we still have a 7 point cushion, effectively 8 due to our better goal difference and St.M and Motherwell haven't caught up any ground in our poor recent run. But it is certainly worrying times and I am not sure what changing the manager would achieve right now - or who is available at a price we could afford. Have you seen the next 6 fixtures? 0 points is a high possibility the way we are going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 Have you seen the next 6 fixtures? 0 points is a high possibility the way we are going What was the starting 11 in the United game, we got a point and fought like fck for that point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Gums Murphy Posted February 21, 2015 Report Share Posted February 21, 2015 They aren't, you're right. However they are playing well below their ability. they aren't concentrating, they aren't performing at their best. They are selling the fans short. There are players behind them who will give more. Maybe not as gifted, but they will fight. I'd actually say Higgy did try today. I'd say Banzo did too when they came on. I admire you're loyalty to the manager PT but he's signed, coached & picked all these players. So do we blame the players for performing poorly? The manager for coaching them? Or the BoD for sanctioning their signings? One common denominator in all 3... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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