Lenziejag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 3 hours ago, javeajag said: Another day another chart ! Why just those countries ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandbank boy Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 2 hours ago, ARu-Strathbungo said: Also interesting the apparent toxicity between the support of the two teams. Just from reading a few of the posts what I see is complete and total hatred ……. But one team without the other could not exist …… It follows then, if the Govan ugly sister goes bust, how long before the Bridgeton ugly sister would follow? I wonder if this virus might in the long run [but for all the wrong reasons] produce a positive impact on Glasgow? If only........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lenziejag said: Why just those countries ? No idea you’ll need to ask them ! Edited May 6, 2020 by javeajag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Lenziejag said: Why just those countries ? You can get more info on their website here https://www.euromomo.eu/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 Germany further relaxing its restrictions ....we will know shortly if Bundesliga will restart Coronavirus: Germany reopens shops as lockdown is relaxed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52557718 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 4 hours ago, ARu-Strathbungo said: Also interesting the apparent toxicity between the support of the two teams. Just from reading a few of the posts what I see is complete and total hatred ……. But one team without the other could not exist …… It follows then, if the Govan ugly sister goes bust, how long before the Bridgeton ugly sister would follow? I wonder if this virus might in the long run [but for all the wrong reasons] produce a positive impact on Glasgow The most positive short term impact on Glasgow could be that if Sevco go bust we would stay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, laukat said: The most positive short term impact on Glasgow could be that if Sevco go bust we would stay up. Or Falkirk get promoted from League One ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Dick Dastardly said: Or Falkirk get promoted from League One ! Cleaner not to relegate than to promote as it means Hearts stay in the top flight. Interesting hypothetical question - now that we have a full pyramid structure in place if Sevco did go bust where which league would they go into? League 2 at tier 4 was the bottom of the pyramid in 2012. This time around the pyramid goes down to tier 7 which are the East and West of Scotland football leagues first divisions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 To the Juniors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandyellowallover Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 1 hour ago, javeajag said: Germany further relaxing its restrictions ....we will know shortly if Bundesliga will restart Coronavirus: Germany reopens shops as lockdown is relaxed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52557718 Merkel announced earlier that the bundesliga could resume in the second half of May on a date of their choosing. Meeting tomorrow supposedly where I would imagine a date for the first fixtures will be announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 yep....football is back .....even if it’s Germany .....tv, beers ! https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11881/11984035/bundesliga-cleared-to-restart-season-later-this-month-after-government-approval 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 2 hours ago, javeajag said: No idea you’ll need to ask them ! Why did you post it, then ? Maybe you should have a think before you post stuff that is obviously skewed. Now it maybe that other countries would still be less than England. But one immediate question is why show the 4 home nations separately. I thought we were in this together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 24 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Why did you post it, then ? Maybe you should have a think before you post stuff that is obviously skewed. Now it maybe that other countries would still be less than England. But one immediate question is why show the 4 home nations separately. I thought we were in this together Ah ok..... that data is not skewed but if it is please show how.... we may be in this together but not not necessarily at the same level.....maybe you could explain why the U.K. govt provides a regional breakdown of England ? Which clearly shows London and the North West are issues....are they not in it together ? The U.K.s approach is by the four govts and I’m sure you know that Health is devolved to the four govts and therefore data is just not provided at the U.K. level.....I for one want to see Scottish data and Glasgow data as that relevant to me The chart didn’t include Ireland either and that would not have help either but neither would : denmark, Austria, Finland, Poland, Czech Republic, Portugal, Greece in fact the is point that there are hardly any countries worse than the U.K. and within the U.K. the England bit is the biggest issue ( because it’s the biggest bit) You can’t pretend the UKs outcomes are anything but horrendous.....53000 dead according to the Financial Times analytical team ( U.K. results are currently only up to April 24 ) ....you can compare us to other countries and we compare badly.....if you have evidence to the contrary please show it I suspect this may be more a reflection of your constitutional views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 I have no idea what the figures are, but I am highly skeptical of that chart which shows England being so much worse than the rest of the UK. We all did the same things at the same time, so while there may be some regional variation, I would expect them to be broadly similar. (I am assuming that the numbers are a % over the average for time of year. If it isn't, then I'm not sure what comparison it is trying to make). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, javeajag said: Ah ok..... that data is not skewed but if it is please show how.... we may be in this together but not not necessarily at the same level.....maybe you could explain why the U.K. govt provides a regional breakdown of England ? Which clearly shows London and the North West are issues....are they not in it together ? The U.K.s approach is by the four govts and I’m sure you know that Health is devolved to the four govts and therefore data is just not provided at the U.K. level.....I for one want to see Scottish data and Glasgow data as that relevant to me The chart didn’t include Ireland either and that would not have help either but neither would : denmark, Austria, Finland, Poland, Czech Republic, Portugal, Greece in fact the is point that there are hardly any countries worse than the U.K. and within the U.K. the England bit is the biggest issue ( because it’s the biggest bit) You can’t pretend the UKs outcomes are anything but horrendous.....53000 dead according to the Financial Times analytical team ( U.K. results are currently only up to April 24 ) ....you can compare us to other countries and we compare badly.....if you have evidence to the contrary please show it I suspect this may be more a reflection of your constitutional views. There is no doubt the the U.K. numbers are horrendous but so are many others including Germany. At present I don’t see the point in comparing against other countries. You seem to be quite happy to post stats that aren’t verified for completeness. As far as constitutional views are concerned, you are way off the mark. By the way, I think there is data available on the Scottish regions. I am surprised you haven’t come across it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: There is no doubt the the U.K. numbers are horrendous but so are many others including Germany. At present I don’t see the point in comparing against other countries. You seem to be quite happy to post stats that aren’t verified for completeness. As far as constitutional views are concerned, you are way off the mark. By the way, I think there is data available on the Scottish regions. I am surprised you haven’t come across it. I’m not sure that Germany’s figures could be called horrendous when compared to the UK ....7000 vs at least 30000 It’s funny because every day at the UK govt briefing they provide data comparing the U.K. to other countries .... yes I’ve seen the Scottish health board data Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I have no idea what the figures are, but I am highly skeptical of that chart which shows England being so much worse than the rest of the UK. We all did the same things at the same time, so while there may be some regional variation, I would expect them to be broadly similar. (I am assuming that the numbers are a % over the average for time of year. If it isn't, then I'm not sure what comparison it is trying to make). England is worse than the other countries it’s just a fact partly explained by London similar to New York in the US and a certain football in Liverpool .....if you want more data on it is available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, javeajag said: England is worse than the other countries it’s just a fact partly explained by London similar to New York in the US and a certain football in Liverpool .....if you want more data on it is available I have checked and these are not percentages but raw numbers. So England has a far bigger population than the other uk nations, so is bound to have more deaths. This is a completely pointless comparison that proves absolutely bugger all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colognejag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 3 hours ago, javeajag said: Germany further relaxing its restrictions ....we will know shortly if Bundesliga will restart Coronavirus: Germany reopens shops as lockdown is relaxed https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-52557718 Oh great... Wish I had the confidence the politicians have. On the flip side, out for a walk this afternoon and passed a barbers - empty. Strolled in and job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I have checked and these are not percentages but raw numbers. So England has a far bigger population than the other uk nations, so is bound to have more deaths. This is a completely pointless comparison that proves absolutely bugger all. Ok .....it’s excess deaths not the number of deaths which the FT has England on +52% the same as Spain for example which is very high .....Scotland has been performing differently https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/18379160.coronavirus-death-rate-covid-england-nearly-twice-high-scotland/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Colognejag said: Oh great... Wish I had the confidence the politicians have. On the flip side, out for a walk this afternoon and passed a barbers - empty. Strolled in and job done. Lucky you ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 for virus nerds Excess death data updated from the FT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 46 minutes ago, javeajag said: I’m not sure that Germany’s figures could be called horrendous when compared to the UK ....7000 vs at least 30000 It’s funny because every day at the UK govt briefing they provide data comparing the U.K. to other countries .... yes I’ve seen the Scottish health board data You don’t think 7,000 deaths is horrendous? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 12 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: You don’t think 7,000 deaths is horrendous? I said when compared to the U.K. .....and if you look at their excess death figure it’s only up 3% so they have done a good job ....we haven’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 6, 2020 Report Share Posted May 6, 2020 for virus nerds The U.K. govt which says it’s too early to judge if we have the worst death toll in Europe has just published a chart that shows the UK has one of the worst death tolls globally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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