Jimmy McD Posted July 30, 2024 Report Share Posted July 30, 2024 At least they could do would be to pay Ricco's appearance money...LOL.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QXBoy Posted July 31, 2024 Report Share Posted July 31, 2024 6 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: "was due to human error by a match official". Whenever a club fields an illegible player that's inevitably due to a mistake being made. Strange how the SFA/SPFL react so differently to those human errors. Should've gone to Specsavers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted July 31, 2024 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2024 11 hours ago, Barney Rubble said: There's just the small - but still very significant - point that we weren't good enough on the night to merit a shoot out v Clyde. Exactly my point - the Clyde game cost us - not Motherwell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted July 31, 2024 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2024 Is there any reason we can’t get to see the correspondence-just for clarity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 31, 2024 Report Share Posted July 31, 2024 I don’t know what people were expecting ? Yes the officials cocked up, but is it any worse than not giving a stonewall penalty, or sending someone off for a good tackle, or not giving a goal which clearly was. A game would not be replayed, or compensation given, for any of the above, which are arguably worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Very Bitter Jag Posted July 31, 2024 Report Share Posted July 31, 2024 I'm going to have to change my name to Very Very Bitter Jag now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted July 31, 2024 Report Share Posted July 31, 2024 37 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I don’t know what people were expecting ? Yes the officials cocked up, but is it any worse than not giving a stonewall penalty, or sending someone off for a good tackle, or not giving a goal which clearly was. A game would not be replayed, or compensation given, for any of the above, which are arguably worse. Like when Storey was pole axed in box vs Celtic and no pen given (had we equalised that point would have been vital at seasons end) or when Docherty was wrongly sent off vs Kelty or Doolans ghost ‘goal’. (Just top of head stuff). The list goes on not only with on field injustices but off field too over the years and thats why I personally get frustrated as show me another team in Scotland who gets shafted as much. Decisions in play off final inc pen shoot out end, Covid relegation with game in hand, 10,000 seater fiasco etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted July 31, 2024 Report Share Posted July 31, 2024 50 minutes ago, elevenone said: Like when Storey was pole axed in box vs Celtic and no pen given (had we equalised that point would have been vital at seasons end) or when Docherty was wrongly sent off vs Kelty or Doolans ghost ‘goal’. (Just top of head stuff). The list goes on not only with on field injustices but off field too over the years and thats why I personally get frustrated as show me another team in Scotland who gets shafted as much. Decisions in play off final inc pen shoot out end, Covid relegation with game in hand, 10,000 seater fiasco etc I will bet that any fan of any team in Scotland, probably the world, will give a similar list of injustices. You don’t notice so closely when it isn’t your team 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted July 31, 2024 Report Share Posted July 31, 2024 33 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I will bet that any fan of any team in Scotland, probably the world, will give a similar list of injustices. You don’t notice so closely when it isn’t your team We will have to agree to disagree on that one esp chucking in the covid relegation and stadium fiasco. But onto the new league season we go (and match thread)* *just kidding 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laukat Posted July 31, 2024 Report Share Posted July 31, 2024 2 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: I don’t know what people were expecting ? Yes the officials cocked up, but is it any worse than not giving a stonewall penalty, or sending someone off for a good tackle, or not giving a goal which clearly was. A game would not be replayed, or compensation given, for any of the above, which are arguably worse. I don't get then the comparison to an official not giving a decision during play. Decisions during play are reactionary, split second and open to interpretation based on the officials view. Its also not uncommon for an official to have to make that sort of decision. On Sundays events it wasn't a decision that required to be made in split second as the 4th official and any of the refereeing team could have checked who was present on the bench much earlier and as the ball was out of play they could have paused the game to resolve the matter. It wasn't really open to interpretation as simple check of the correct information source would have clarified the matter. I genuinely cannot think of another time in any game where a team has been prevented from making a sub so to say the least its not a common occurrence. Surely the human reaction in such rare events is to assume you must have it wrong, doublecheck that you have the correct information or at least ask the referee to stop the game whilst you recheck the information. Instead of which the 4th officials view was that the entirety of the Thistle coaching staff had got it wrong. I never thought a replay was a real or fair ask but a an explanation of events should be a minimum. All we have is the statement from Thistle saying the SFA are blaming the officials. So there is currently no public explanation of events. If we compare this to the amount of explanation the SFA gave to an offside call in an old firm game that had already been checked by VAR then it does appear that we have been patted on the head and told to p@ss off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagtastic Posted July 31, 2024 Report Share Posted July 31, 2024 5 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: I don’t know what people were expecting ? Yes the officials cocked up, but is it any worse than not giving a stonewall penalty, or sending someone off for a good tackle, or not giving a goal which clearly was. A game would not be replayed, or compensation given, for any of the above, which are arguably worse. While I agree that I don't know how people expected this to go other than "sorry, not sorry" from the governing bodies, it's a team sheet administration error, not an on-field decision. More comparable would be, if we didn't register a player properly or played someone not listed on the team sheet and won, we'd have been punted from the competition and likely fined. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted August 1, 2024 Report Share Posted August 1, 2024 On 7/31/2024 at 12:37 PM, laukat said: I don't get then the comparison to an official not giving a decision during play. Decisions during play are reactionary, split second and open to interpretation based on the officials view. Its also not uncommon for an official to have to make that sort of decision. On Sundays events it wasn't a decision that required to be made in split second as the 4th official and any of the refereeing team could have checked who was present on the bench much earlier and as the ball was out of play they could have paused the game to resolve the matter. It wasn't really open to interpretation as simple check of the correct information source would have clarified the matter. I genuinely cannot think of another time in any game where a team has been prevented from making a sub so to say the least its not a common occurrence. Surely the human reaction in such rare events is to assume you must have it wrong, doublecheck that you have the correct information or at least ask the referee to stop the game whilst you recheck the information. Instead of which the 4th officials view was that the entirety of the Thistle coaching staff had got it wrong. I never thought a replay was a real or fair ask but a an explanation of events should be a minimum. All we have is the statement from Thistle saying the SFA are blaming the officials. So there is currently no public explanation of events. If we compare this to the amount of explanation the SFA gave to an offside call in an old firm game that had already been checked by VAR then it does appear that we have been patted on the head and told to p@ss off. This. (Out of likes.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted August 2, 2024 Report Share Posted August 2, 2024 St Mirren booted out of Trust Trophy and fined for fielding ineligible player midweek. SFA quick to punish clubs but no action when they mess up. Make no mistake we would have met same fate last Sunday had we been in the wrong. https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-statement-spfl-trust-trophy-r1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted August 2, 2024 Report Share Posted August 2, 2024 1 hour ago, elevenone said: St Mirren booted out of Trust Trophy and fined for fielding ineligible player midweek. SFA quick to punish clubs but no action when they mess up. Make no mistake we would have met same fate last Sunday had we been in the wrong. https://spfl.co.uk/news/spfl-statement-spfl-trust-trophy-r1 Surely it was just human error so thought the SPFL would just go for the "nothing to see here, move on" line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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