King Kenny Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Training with us according to the Glaswegian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Earl of Hathaway Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Admin, please shift this to the thread 'Players who were mince for us, were mince when they left and I wshed I'd never see at Firhill again because they'll be mince once more'. Have we REALLY sunk to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honved Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 I'll be controversial and say that I liked Derek Young when he played for us and wasn't surprised that he went on to sign for Aberdeen again. He's in a strange hinterland between being too good for the current First Division with its manic tempo and not quite good enough for the SPL with its err...manic tempo. I also liked Bryan Hodge but for the avoidance of doubt, Stuart Taylor and Brian Hamilton were rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 I'll be controversial and say that I liked Derek Young when he played for us and wasn't surprised that he went on to sign for Aberdeen again. He's in a strange hinterland between being too good for the current First Division with its manic tempo and not quite good enough for the SPL with its err...manic tempo. I also liked Bryan Hodge but for the avoidance of doubt, Stuart Taylor and Brian Hamilton were rubbish. I don't really see what there was to like about him. He was clearly a much better player than he was ever prepared to be for us. One of those players that because he came down a division he thought he didn't have to do the spadework. Saw him play for us in a reserve match at McDiarmid. St Johnstone had a strongish side out that day but Young was clearly the best player on the park. The very fact the guy was/is a good footballer but chose too often not to display his talent doesn't make him that likeable in my book. That said, and I wouldn't read too much into the fact he's training with us, it may be no bad thing to get him on the short term. I get the impression McNamara is very switched on when it comes to fitness and effort. I don't believe Jackie would be easily Barry Smith'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honved Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 I don't really see what there was to like about him. He was clearly a much better player than he was ever prepared to be for us. One of those players that because he came down a division he thought he didn't have to do the spadework. Saw him play for us in a reserve match at McDiarmid. St Johnstone had a strongish side out that day but Young was clearly the best player on the park. The very fact the guy was/is a good footballer but chose too often not to display his talent doesn't make him that likeable in my book. That said, and I wouldn't read too much into the fact he's training with us, it may be no bad thing to get him on the short term. I get the impression McNamara is very switched on when it comes to fitness and effort. I don't believe Jackie would be easily Barry Smith'd. I've read a good few sporting autobiographies over the years (Tony Cascarino's is a belter) and the one message that comes through loud and clear from virtually all of them, is the delicate balance that either motivates or discourages individuals. That can express itself in what appears to be a lack of effort and a poor attitude, just as in other players, fitting in and being coached well, can transform a career (Gary Harkins?). I can't speak for Derek Young, but you could always see that there was a good player in there, just like numerous examples over the last few years and that's what I liked about watching him play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 John Lambie Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Is obviously a good player, but didn't show it enough for us. Don't see how we could have the finance to sign him, unless he just wanted some games to put himself in the shop window come January. If we have no intention of signing him, although admiral that we're helping him get fit, it could be of real benefit to the team who does sign him (likely to be a 1st Div rival). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool Jags Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 I don't really see what there was to like about him. He was clearly a much better player than he was ever prepared to be for us. One of those players that because he came down a division he thought he didn't have to do the spadework. Saw him play for us in a reserve match at McDiarmid. St Johnstone had a strongish side out that day but Young was clearly the best player on the park. The very fact the guy was/is a good footballer but chose too often not to display his talent doesn't make him that likeable in my book. That said, and I wouldn't read too much into the fact he's training with us, it may be no bad thing to get him on the short term. I get the impression McNamara is very switched on when it comes to fitness and effort. I don't believe Jackie would be easily Barry Smith'd. An absolute non-negotiable pre-requisite for any manager befitting of his job down Firhill Road way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 There have been several players who have trained with us but have not signed for the club. Tam McManus is a recent example although it appears that the club offered him a deal. I doubt that the club could afford to sign another player. It is likely that Young is just keeping fit for trials at other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave on Bobby Law Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 I think his main problem was lack of end product and playing in what was a shoddy team at the tim.e That said - wage could be better deployed if its free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 McCann, Young,.. I hope that JM is above thinking that old guys who were good when he was playing are still good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatha bacon Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 McCann, Young,.. I hope that JM is above thinking that old guys who were good when he was playing are still good. good point, exact what i was thinking. money could be better spent than on an old hasbeen. mind you to be a has been you had got to have had it in the first place and he never did. always disinterested or injured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Heron Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 There have been several players who have trained with us but have not signed for the club. Tam McManus is a recent example although it appears that the club offered him a deal. I'm not sure we ever got to that point - McNamara said his interest in McManus evaporated when he signed Christie Elliot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Heron Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 I've read a good few sporting autobiographies over the years (Tony Cascarino's is a belter) and the one message that comes through loud and clear from virtually all of them, is the delicate balance that either motivates or discourages individuals. That can express itself in what appears to be a lack of effort and a poor attitude, just as in other players, fitting in and being coached well, can transform a career (Gary Harkins?). I can't speak for Derek Young, but you could always see that there was a good player in there, just like numerous examples over the last few years and that's what I liked about watching him play. The relationship between the player, his team mates and the management team is always the magic ingredient, isn't it. Managing a football team would be a piece of piss if it wasn't for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggyThistle Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Always thought he was played out of position for us - more often shoved wide-right as opposed to through the middle as a striker, where he's more suited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantB Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 I don't really see what there was to like about him. He was clearly a much better player than he was ever prepared to be for us. One of those players that because he came down a division he thought he didn't have to do the spadework. Saw him play for us in a reserve match at McDiarmid. St Johnstone had a strongish side out that day but Young was clearly the best player on the park. The very fact the guy was/is a good footballer but chose too often not to display his talent doesn't make him that likeable in my book. That said, and I wouldn't read too much into the fact he's training with us, it may be no bad thing to get him on the short term. I get the impression McNamara is very switched on when it comes to fitness and effort. I don't believe Jackie would be easily Barry Smith'd. I'd put that down to the Dick Campbell effect. Didn't he play him at full back on a few occasions? Reckon he'd be a cracking signing for us if played in a front three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 I thought him, Roberts and Donnelly linked up superbly at times. Clearly a decent player and I'd be prepared to give him a second chance. Everyone who's first chance was under Dick Campbell deserves a second chance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angry gaz Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Everyone who's first chance was under Dick Campbell deserves a second chance! Apart from Darren Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifu03340 Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 I thought him, Roberts and Donnelly linked up superbly at times. Clearly a decent player and I'd be prepared to give him a second chance. Everyone who's first chance was under Dick Campbell deserves a second chance! The goal at Palmerston when those 3 linked up was tremendous. I didnt think he was the worst first time round. played about 6 positions under DC, I would expect nothing to be in it though...probably just training to keep fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 played about 6 positions under DC, Aye, but only Arthur and Tuffey didn't play in at least 6 different positions under DC. An experienced pro like Young should have led the way in demonstrating Campbell's unique vision of total football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestreets Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Admin, please shift this to the thread 'Players who were mince for us, were mince when they left and I wshed I'd never see at Firhill again because they'll be mince once more'. Have we REALLY sunk to this? Q Would you know a football player if he hit right between the eyes? He left us and had several successful seasons in SPL !!! Do not really remember him having very many bad games for us... tried very hard and scored a few and at the time was playing in a very average team. Bit like Jamie Langfield.. got dogs abuse for no reason... and went to bigger club and was there number 1 for a good few seasons.... I seriously think some fans have blinkers on and favourites... some players can't do no wrong no matter how crap.... and then others make one mistake and its serial abuse every time they walk on the pitch. COME ON THE JAGS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatha bacon Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 Apart from Darren Brady. l :lol: he took dogs abuse. follows dick from club to club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted September 18, 2011 Report Share Posted September 18, 2011 follows dick from club to club Cough, splutter!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediumwave Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 When he was with us, I thought Young wasn't that bad and I would probably take him as a stop gap with Fraser and Burns out on loan and Stewart injured. Rather someone with a bit of experience like Young than a couple of raw kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatha bacon Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Cough, splutter!!! something stuck in your throat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicofan Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) I thought him, Roberts and Donnelly linked up superbly at times. Clearly a decent player and I'd be prepared to give him a second chance. Everyone who's first chance was under Dick Campbell deserves a second chance! Sweet mary and the orphans I very nearly choked on my Fiery Irn Bru reading that statement!! Campbell had mair duds than the Irish Match testing factory!! Edited September 19, 2011 by Chicofan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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