Fawlty Towers Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Good to see that the matchday programme has picked up an award as it is really an excellent production: http://www.ptfc.co.uk/news/2011-2012/march_2012/2011_12_northern_programme_club_merit_award_winners Well done guys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Putin Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Clyde must really be struggling, they used to collect every programme award going, and now they can't even beat Berwick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Fantastic stuff. I buy it at every opportunity, though after the only game I've been to this season I lost mine on the route home, before I'd had a chance to read it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hosie Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Bit embarrassed by this to be honest. It’s a ‘merit’ award which, if I understand correctly, isn’t quite the same as being considered the best programme of them all. Still, the nice comments are always welcome. The programme continues to be well supported by the Thistle fans which is very much appreciated. I owe thanks to all contributors, photographers and sellers. Especially one of the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 It's a well-deserved recognition. Congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Bit embarrassed by this to be honest. It’s a ‘merit’ award which, if I understand correctly, isn’t quite the same as being considered the best programme of them all. Still, the nice comments are always welcome. The programme continues to be well supported by the Thistle fans which is very much appreciated. I owe thanks to all contributors, photographers and sellers. Especially one of the latter. Isn't a merit award what you got at school for basically turning up? Sounds about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACAB Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Isn't a merit award what you got at school for basically turning up? Sounds about right. The glass isn't even a quarter full to some folk. Congrats to Tom and the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Isn't a merit award what you got at school for basically turning up? Sounds about right. Or before you peg it at the end of your career! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennythistle Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Well done to all concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag2 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Well done to Tom and all concerned with the programme! Can we please now have proper team-lists in the programme, and then we will win the "best programme" award? I mean it, Tom - I have written to you on at least six occasions - without reply - asking for proper team-lists. This the first thing to go into a programme. Everything else is secondary! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 As said already well done to Tom and the team for an excellent programme and for the well deserved award. Keep up the great work guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stolenscone Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Well done to Tom and all concerned with the programme! Can we please now have proper team-lists in the programme, and then we will win the "best programme" award? I mean it, Tom - I have written to you on at least six occasions - without reply - asking for proper team-lists. This the first thing to go into a programme. Everything else is secondary! Without getting into the rights and wrongs of the underlying issue (I happen to agree with you, for what that's worth), I can recall at least 2 occassions when you've raised this on the public forum and Tom has replied to explain that it's an editorial decision based on space constraints. It's a bit harsh to accuse him of not replying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag2 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 In the interests of clarity, and to help stolenscone, I should have explained that I have written off-forum at least six times to Tom Hosie at [email protected] - which is what we are supposed to do - and have never had a reply. If the Club provides an e-mail contact address, surely a reply should be forthcoming. As for the programme point: it is entirely correct that MacB - as part of their sponsorship - insisted on using certain pages of the programme for advertising their wares. My point throughout - which Tom Hosie seems unable to comprehend - is that proper team-lists have priority amongst all other editorial matter in a football programme. We do not need, or want - for example - reports on matches that took place a month previously - so space could be better deployed whatever limitations are imposed by advertising. On each occasion I have written personally to Tom Hosie I have offered to help with formulating an editorial space allocation, but no response has been forthcoming. I hope this is helpful to forum readers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 (edited) Tom, well done with the programme something i look forward to getting back or my parents visiting ir reading my backlog of programmes my dads put aside for me in my abscence. I think i have almost every home programme stretching back to 85, i'll wait till i have a full 50yrs then auction them Edited March 13, 2012 by Norgethistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971 Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 In the interests of clarity, and to help stolenscone, I should have explained that I have written off-forum at least six times to Tom Hosie at [email protected] - which is what we are supposed to do - and have never had a reply. If the Club provides an e-mail contact address, surely a reply should be forthcoming. As for the programme point: it is entirely correct that MacB - as part of their sponsorship - insisted on using certain pages of the programme for advertising their wares. My point throughout - which Tom Hosie seems unable to comprehend - is that proper team-lists have priority amongst all other editorial matter in a football programme. We do not need, or want - for example - reports on matches that took place a month previously - so space could be better deployed whatever limitations are imposed by advertising. On each occasion I have written personally to Tom Hosie I have offered to help with formulating an editorial space allocation, but no response has been forthcoming. I hope this is helpful to forum readers. I think you need a lie down pal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Taylor Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 In the interests of clarity, and to help stolenscone, I should have explained that I have written off-forum at least six times to Tom Hosie at [email protected] - which is what we are supposed to do - and have never had a reply. If the Club provides an e-mail contact address, surely a reply should be forthcoming. As for the programme point: it is entirely correct that MacB - as part of their sponsorship - insisted on using certain pages of the programme for advertising their wares. My point throughout - which Tom Hosie seems unable to comprehend - is that proper team-lists have priority amongst all other editorial matter in a football programme. We do not need, or want - for example - reports on matches that took place a month previously - so space could be better deployed whatever limitations are imposed by advertising. On each occasion I have written personally to Tom Hosie I have offered to help with formulating an editorial space allocation, but no response has been forthcoming. I hope this is helpful to forum readers. Lenziejag2, I have never known Tom not reply to any programme query so perhaps he hadn't received them. I am not sure if anyone else at the club picks them up. However I believe he has already given the reasons to you previously as you stated in your post. A lot of people do like the match reports so to state "we do not need or want" them as an absolute statement is maybe streching your point. I would think that if lots of programme buyers felt as you do then Tom would have considered changing the format. I am not saying you don't have a point and your are quite free to state/ask/plead/beg/bribe it as is anyone else about the programme. I don't think Tom, Kenny or myself do this to win awards, merits, Oscars or Nobel prizes but just to make sure the fans that part with their hard earned cash get value for money. We don't get paid and would do anything to maximise any profit from the programme to go to help the club so we (well mostly Tom because it's his baby) will regularly take on board any offer of help or constructive suggestions from any source. And just you think you are being hard done by - I regularly tell Tom, people only buy it for the pretty pictures and there is no need for any writing at all but he hasn't changed that fact either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 To the PTFC Programme Team -A big well done guys -as Tommy T says major credit to Tom Hosie -excellent award and well deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag2 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 My comments have clearly prompted some discussion about the PTFC programme! Could I please reiterate my first point which was to congratulate Tom and the programme team on their well-merited award! Secondly, I would like to thank 1971 for his concern for my health - I am happy to reassure him that I take a lie down most afternoons! I am especially grateful to Tommy Taylor for having taken the time to respond to a number of the points I have been making - thank you Tommy! For the sake of accuracy, I must confirm that I e-mailed Tom Hosie at [email protected] on 24 August/29 August/24 November and 15 December (all in 2011), and on 19 January, 17 February, 20 February, 1 March and 3 March (all 2012). None of these e-mails has been responded to. Perhaps I don't merit a reply - and that is not a hostage to fortune for some wit to build on! We went to Culter and got proper team-lists; we went to Raith Rovers and got proper team-lists; we went to Falkirk and got proper team-lists, etc. etc. Why on earth can't PTFC publish proper team-lists in its programme? I have repeatedly offered to give Tom Hosie some one-off help in editorial space allocation, and am happy to repeat that offer here in a public forum. Proper team-lists are the first editorial item to go into a football programme. Everything else is secondary! Well done again to the programme team on an excellent job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 What's a proper team list? And what does the thistle prog's improper list look like? By the way, congratulations to Tom, Tommy and Kenny, great work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag2 Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Suggest potty trained checks out every other club's priogramme - then the answer will be obvious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Why not just answer my question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ami Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Well done to the programme team Editor Tom and all the help from Kenny, Jim and Tommy. Also big well done to Gathland, (Ian Wright and his team) too who are always on hand to help us and play a huge part in the programme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 In the interests of clarity, and to help stolenscone, I should have explained that I have written off-forum at least six times to Tom Hosie at [email protected] - which is what we are supposed to do - and have never had a reply. If the Club provides an e-mail contact address, surely a reply should be forthcoming. As for the programme point: it is entirely correct that MacB - as part of their sponsorship - insisted on using certain pages of the programme for advertising their wares. My point throughout - which Tom Hosie seems unable to comprehend - is that proper team-lists have priority amongst all other editorial matter in a football programme. We do not need, or want - for example - reports on matches that took place a month previously - so space could be better deployed whatever limitations are imposed by advertising. On each occasion I have written personally to Tom Hosie I have offered to help with formulating an editorial space allocation, but no response has been forthcoming. I hope this is helpful to forum readers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fergie Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 I agree about the Team Lists and have stopped buying the programme because they are not in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 14, 2012 Report Share Posted March 14, 2012 Hmm, this debate aroused my curiosity, so I picked up the programme from Falkirk on Saturday, turned it over, and there were the player lists of both clubs. Easy for punters to tick off the players, as many do for their records. I then looked at the Jags programme for the 3rd of March (vs. Hamilton), and couldn't find equivalent lists anywhere. I leafed through it again, and realised that player information was there in the form of "Today's Vistors" (pp. 4-5, with a few lines on each player), and then for Thistle probably the nearest thing would be the Kit Sponsors page. So, not really "lists" of the kind that Lenziejag would like, and not an unreasonable request about whether they couldn't be included, in my view. I remember when the actual team line-ups used to form the centre piece of programmes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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