uberteeb Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 I don't think he is good enough for any SPL club to pay money for him, had he been out of contract in the summer he would have got a few offers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 wait a minute.... you are basing Doolan being worth more than 50k, on the possibility that he will score in an early round of the League or Scottish Cup, and that after that we might get drawn against the old firm, or a game deemed suitable for Sky? --That's right. On that basis, Tommy Stewart might score in an early round..... etc etc etc.... what do you value him at? -- Not much. Just look at their respective scoring records to work out who is more likely to score in an early round. On this basis, every team in the lower league would hold inflated prices for their goal scorers, based on "just maybe". -- So, is your suggestion that we should sell Doolan to the first bidder, for 50K, or even less? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Jagger, where are you getting the idea that i am suggesting we sell for 50k or less, to the first bidder? Will, suggested that no one in the SPL would spend money on him, i gave 3 options of teams who could afford to, given the extra cash they have made this year. based on st mirren buying Dougie Imrie for 35k in Jan, and also the fact very little money is changing hands in a transfer (i.e. most players leave at the end of their contract). i would suggest 50K is very accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Jagger, where are you getting the idea that i am suggesting we sell for 50k or less, to the first bidder? Will, suggested that no one in the SPL would spend money on him, i gave 3 options of teams who could afford to, given the extra cash they have made this year. based on st mirren buying Dougie Imrie for 35k in Jan, and also the fact very little money is changing hands in a transfer (i.e. most players leave at the end of their contract). i would suggest 50K is very accurate. Me too, and that's what I'm worried about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Doolan's great. Goes out, plays football, scores goals, never whinges and doesn't appear to concern himself with Twitter and any of the associated crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernsoul Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 Doolan's great. Goes out, plays football, scores goals, never whinges and doesn't appear to concern himself with Twitter and any of the associated crap. Fantastic first touch, work rate and is a clever player. You can only admire the guy for the way he has transformed his form and his game since that loan spell with Clyde. That was a good decision by McCall at the time but it was up to Doolan, no matter what his form was like at Clyde to come back and do it at First Division level. He is such an important player for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 I'm a bit old to idolise players, but, for the reasons outlined above, he's my favourite Thistle player since Mark Roberts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennythistle Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 I'm a bit old to idolise players, but, for the reasons outlined above, he's my favourite Thistle player since Mark Roberts. Yeah, I'm the same regards idolising players but like yourself, dools is my favourite player at Firhill. Has been since McGlashan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted March 20, 2012 Members Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Jagger, where are you getting the idea that i am suggesting we sell for 50k or less, to the first bidder? Will, suggested that no one in the SPL would spend money on him, i gave 3 options of teams who could afford to, given the extra cash they have made this year. based on st mirren buying Dougie Imrie for 35k in Jan, and also the fact very little money is changing hands in a transfer (i.e. most players leave at the end of their contract). i would suggest 50K is very accurate. Couple of things to consider where St Mirren are concerned in this case PT. Imrie would have been a free agent come the Summer, so £35k was a cut price deal. St.mirren have already spent £35k on a player and a forward at that. Can they really afford to pay for another forward in the same calendar year? Kille seem to have plenty of decent strikers, I doubt they're in the market for another one. I'm not sure that Hibs have spare cash to spend on players. I'd imagine they have quite a high wage bill that they would need to deal with first. Also, they just bought a striker from the Irish league during the last window. I don't think they are in the market for a striker also. I'm pretty certain Dools wont be going to anywhere in Scotland in th next window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 He's a smart guy and just goes about his business like a proper professional. First name on the team-sheet frankly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I'm a bit old to idolise players, but, for the reasons outlined above, he's my favourite Thistle player since Mark Roberts. Yeah, I'm the same regards idolising players but like yourself, dools is my favourite player at Firhill. Has been since McGlashan. He's a smart guy and just goes about his business like a proper professional. First name on the team-sheet frankly. Agree with all the above. I can't idolise players when the majority of the squad is now younger than me (when the hell did that happen?), but I do think Doolan is arguably the best Thistle striker in the past 15 years, though I know that doesn't say much. Roberts and Lindau were good but did it at division two level. McLean was good, similar scoring rate, but I remember him starting the season well and dropping off while Doolan does the opposite. Who else has scored goals for us, Grady was good but he's a tit. Buchanan too injury prone. Anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 (edited) Very true, even in later years. Dalgleish and Tommy Burns both started at junior clubs. Actually Dalglish was signed by Celtic and then loaned out for a couple of years to a junior club to "toughen up". Interstingly when I googled to double-check my memory I saw he had an unsucessful trial with Liverpool. Edited March 20, 2012 by Mr Bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 St Mirren... Can they really afford to pay for another forward in the same calendar year? They have oe recognised striker in Thompson, now 33 years of age and who has never been a prolific striker. They have Jon Mcshane who was loaned out to Hamilton in January and has scored 3 goals in 9 games in the first divsion. The same amount as the whole St Mirren team have scored in this time! Hasselbank is a winger or wide left in a front 3. Imrie is a winger or wide right in a front 3. Garry Teale is a winger and is fckin hopeless St Mirren are the lowest scoring team in Scotland. Lennon has rebuilt the team from the back and is currently renewing contracts, he has signed a young striker from England on a pre contract for around 30k, i think and has signed an attacking midfielder from the lower leagues of scotland on a pre contract. The Hearts game at Tynecastle was on the BBC (not a big pay day, but more than budgeted for). The replay tomorrow night is live on sky and will generate a lot of money, added to the fact if they beat hearts they have a split gate semi against Celtic at Hampden, and as a Club are carrying next to no debt. I'd say if lennon doesn't go out and spend money on a striker, the fans will quickly turn on him!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Agree with all the above. I can't idolise players when the majority of the squad is now younger than me (when the hell did that happen?), but I do think Doolan is arguably the best Thistle striker in the past 15 years, though I know that doesn't say much. Roberts and Lindau were good but did it at division two level. McLean was good, similar scoring rate, but I remember him starting the season well and dropping off while Doolan does the opposite. Who else has scored goals for us, Grady was good but he's a tit. Buchanan too injury prone. Anyone else? Toastie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 gereeee gereeee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I'm thinking County could be a possible destination for Doolan. They'll need to beef up their attacking options following promotion and he's not going to break the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted March 20, 2012 Members Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 St Mirren are the lowest scoring team in Scotland. Lennon has rebuilt the team from the back and is currently renewing contracts, he has signed a young striker from England on a pre contract for around 30k, i think and has signed an attacking midfielder from the lower leagues of scotland on a pre contract. So up to around 65k now! I'm even more conviced they wont be looking for anyone else now! It's eerie just how much you know about St Mirren these days since you moved to that neck of the woods. You're Old Man will be disowning you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 He's a smart guy and just goes about his business like a proper professional. First name on the team-sheet frankly. Doolan came to the club as a left-footed striker; since then, he has become very competent in the air (although he isn't so tall as many of this division's centre-back giants) and recently he has begun banging in goals with his weaker (right) foot. Obviousy, he doesn't just rely on the club's training, but concentrates on improving where he sees his own weaknesses too. I think he's a real find, and one that's worth investing in - to the point of getting his contract lengthened asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Toastie. gereeee gereeee OK, Doolan is the third best in the past 15 years. Thought I'd missed out an SPL striker but can't believe I forgot Gerry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 I'm thinking County could be a possible destination for Doolan. They'll need to beef up their attacking options following promotion and he's not going to break the bank. You might well be right with that observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 So up to around 65k now! I'm even more conviced they wont be looking for anyone else now! It's eerie just how much you know about St Mirren these days since you moved to that neck of the woods. You're Old Man will be disowning you. But as i said, they have next to no debt, are running a greatly reduced wage bill from the Gus era and stand to make around 200k+ from their cup games this season. Their 2 highest earners at the start of the season were thompson and teale on 2k a week each. they renewed Goodwin's contract to a similar amount. considering a few years ago when Gilmour took over, they were in a very similar position to us. It's hard not to be somewhat jealous of how their Club is run! Yup, a year spent in Paisley now. I socialise with 7 or 8 St Mirren fans on a Saturday night after i've left the jags lads in the Star... around 6 or 7 of the in-laws support St Mirren. And i've been to a couple of their games if i can't afford a Jags away day as i usually get offered a St Mirren season ticket or comp and the ground is a 15 minute walk away. On the flip side, those folk are pretty well clued up on all things Thistle! It's quite good having a good knowledge of your local team, especially as they are not the old firm and debates with us and memories of past games are always good... lets just say the crowd i hang about with are dying for an away day to Firhill... Tho i will never tire of entering the Star to be asked "St Mirren away from home this week Davie!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Toasty's goals were struck from record the minute he buggered off to Motherwell and became fat and sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted March 20, 2012 Members Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Tho i will never tire of entering the Star to be asked "St Mirren away from home this week Davie!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted March 20, 2012 Members Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Ok, let's approach the Doolan question from another angle... How much would you expect to pay for a 1st division striker with another full year on his contract and in his early to mid twenties who has finsihed the last 2 seasons as top scorer or thereabouts in theSFL 1st Division? Then ask, which Clubs in Scotland can afford to pay that much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Ok, let's approach the Doolan question from another angle... How much would you expect to pay for a 1st division striker with another full year on his contract and in his early to mid twenties who has finsihed the last 2 seasons as top scorer or thereabouts in theSFL 1st Division? Then ask, which Clubs in Scotland can afford to pay that much? 50K St Mirren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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