silvershadow Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Hate to mump and moan but surely after that woefull heartless performance in the cup it`s time to try something different up front.We cant score from open play and provide little threat to opposition defences.Lets give Mukendi a try with Doolan playing off him,it cant be any worse than it is now,can it? Piccolo was our best player today so maybe he should get an extended run instead of Conrad who looks totally out of form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Not only can't we score from open play, we don't even manage to get more than one or two shots on target. Our build-ups are far too slow, allowing defences all the time in the world to organise so as to snuff us out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazzJag Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Archie has said it 20 times, Mukendi is hopeless. He sees him every day. That's obviously the reason we haven't seen him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhs Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Thinking outside the box, no pun intended, is good but Mukendi is clearly hopeless. He struggles to play for the u-20 even when Duggan is injured. The theory could work - a bigger guy up beside Dools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Archie has said it 20 times, Mukendi is hopeless. He sees him every day. That's obviously the reason we haven't seen him Archie is hopeless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggybunnet Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Archie is hopeless. no thats just your posts, so stop it and give us all a rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Archie is hopeless. For me you have, over recent weeks, become the worst poster in the history of Thistle forums. An achievement in some sense, particularly as it seems that this may have been your intention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 For me you have, over recent weeks, become the worst poster in the history of Thistle forums. An achievement in some sense, particularly as it seems that this may have been your intention. Sickening isn't it? When you think of the years of effort some of us have put in in an attempt to reach that accolade, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy McD Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 the amount of passes that went astray today was unbelievable throw ins just as bad , we seem to take an age to get the ball into there box. you can play all the nice passing stuff all day long but it does not get you goals . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Sickening isn't it? When you think of the years of effort some of us have put in in an attempt to reach that accolade, Effort will only get you so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 For me you have, over recent weeks, become the worst poster in the history of Thistle forums. An achievement in some sense, particularly as it seems that this may have been your intention. For thinking ahead of the curve? Mukendi and Kerr seem to be open to criticism but not Archie when his failings are there for all to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 the amount of passes that went astray today was unbelievable throw ins just as bad , we seem to take an age to get the ball into there box. you can play all the nice passing stuff all day long but it does not get you goals . I thought Taylor Sinclair was extremely disappointing today. Lost count of how many throw ins he took and threw straight to a Dons player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Hate to mump and moan but surely after that woefull heartless performance in the cup it`s time to try something different up front.We cant score from open play and provide little threat to opposition defences.Lets give Mukendi a try with Doolan playing off him,it cant be any worse than it is now,can it? Piccolo was our best player today so maybe he should get an extended run instead of Conrad who looks totally out of form. How about actually given Baird and Doolan a chance to play together first. Something that quite frankly I cannot believe has been tried out in the last few weeks given how clearly obvious it is to everyone that one striker up front on his own is not working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggyMad Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Baird has to get his chance. I personally think Archie has his favourites and will not give others a chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistlenowthistleforever Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 Baird has to get his chance. I personally think Archie has his favourites and will not give others a chance. Kinda looks that way at the moment maybe pals act from his playing days. I have been desperate for him to prove me wrong but up until now he keeps proving me right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistlenowthistleforever Posted December 1, 2013 Report Share Posted December 1, 2013 (edited) Digging deeper no wonder we are not scoring goals look at the records of our attacking players Doolan 169 starts 59 goals Higgy 103 starts 17 goals Elliot 61 starts 11 goals HIggy is a blooming imposter I tell you fancy flicks and twirls no end product then you look at our bench Baird 197 starts 86 goals (bearing in mind Dundee mega shite last year) In Archie we do not trust Edited December 1, 2013 by thistlenowthistleforever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Edmonds Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Mukendi lol I posted this on another forum but I believe a possible alternative to us when all our players are fit and available is: Fox O'Donnell, Piccolo, Balatoni, Sinclair Osbourne Welsh, Bannigan Forbes Doolan, Higginbotham I think our best chance in the team of posing any goal threat is Ross Forbes, and as such I think we should try playing our team around him. To an extent he's wasted out wide and even in central midfield outwith the final third. I think he'd do well just behind 2 strikers, as was shown in the St Mirren away game, or possibly even as one of 2 strikers himself. We don't have a wide threat, so I don't see what we'd have to lose by playing this. Having 2 strikers on with a creative Forbes behind them could also do something about our inability to fashion goal-scoring opportunities. Regarding Archibald, I think he's showing himself to be tactically naive, and we don't appear to be able to change from the way we've been playing since the start of last season. We aren't looking like creating chances, never mind scoring goals, and we're just being too easily overpowered by the opposition making it easier for them to score against us, especially at corners. I want to give Archibald a chance, but the next month is massive for him. Especially with such exciting prospective alternatives as Craig Levein currently out of employment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershadow Posted December 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Am i alone in finding the decision by Archie to substitute Baird for Doolan, one short striker for another short striker incredible as it was obvious that this strategy was clearly not working , when we were crying out for something different ie Mukendi who could also help out with set pieces.He may be hopeless as some people say, but what chance has he had. He would certainly have given the Aberdeen defence something different to think about and may have created knockdowns for our midfield! What did we have to lose with one shot on target in 80 minutes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted December 2, 2013 Members Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Forget Mukendi. There only to make up numbers. He admitted himself, despite his height, he's crap with the ball in the air and sees himself more as a winger. I think Archie realises he has to start again and today we seen the first signs of that. We have to be tougher to score against and then build up to scoring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 Archie is hopeless. You are pretty hopeless to be honest. Your posts are ridiculous, you've obviously been spoiled by the football last season. I presume that you only starting following Thistle a couple of years ago, because I can tell you that it's been a hundred times worse than this, and I'm only 28. Would be interested to know who you would replace Archie with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 You are pretty hopeless to be honest. Your posts are ridiculous, you've obviously been spoiled by the football last season. I presume that you only starting following Thistle a couple of years ago, because I can tell you that it's been a hundred times worse than this, and I'm only 28. Would be interested to know who you would replace Archie with. Owen Coyle. His name will be poison down there now. I have seen much worse players for Thistle but I can't remember a time when i couldn't see us getting another point all season such is the gap between the teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Owen Coyle. His name will be poison down there now. I have seen much worse players for Thistle but I can't remember a time when i couldn't see us getting another point all season such is the gap between the teams. You're kidding yourself on if you think we could afford Coyle's wages. So when Gerry Collins was manager you're telling me you had more confidence in him picking up points with that team? Really? You seem to have this vision of PTFC as a footballing juggernaut who pull in crowds of 50,000 every week and pay thousands in wages and as result should be hammering teams at this level. I'm afraid to tell you, we're just not quite there yet. I have confidence in Archie to turn things round. Even if we did go down I wouldn't want him sacked. I want the club to start building a long term legacy, you can't do that if you keep sacking managers. At this stage I still don't believe we will be relegated. Things can change VERY quickly in football and in 2 weeks time Archie could be hero of the hour again. If that happens, I won't go over the top in hailing him as the messiah, just as I won't go over the top in slagging him off after a few bad results. Edited December 2, 2013 by ian_mac 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 You're kidding yourself on if you think we could afford Coyle's wages. So when Gerry Collins was manager you're telling me you had more confidence in him picking up points with that team? Really? You seem to have this vision of PTFC as a footballing juggernaut who pull in crowds of 50,000 every week and pay thousands in wages and as result should be hammering teams at this level. I'm afraid to tell you, we're just not quite there yet. I have confidence in Archie to turn things round. Even if we did go down I wouldn't want him sacked. I want the club to start building a long term legacy, you can't do that if you keep sacking managers. At this stage I still don't believe we will be relegated. Things can change VERY quickly in football and in 2 weeks time Archie could be hero of the hour again. If that happens, I won't go over the top in hailing him as the messiah, just as I won't go over the top in slagging him off after a few bad results. I would like to see him turn it around and be a successful manager. However I don't think he has any idea to change it. Why is Doolan constantly isolated up front? Why are we still terrible at defending set pieces? Why was Craigen marking Considine yesterday? These are the managers things to deal with and there has been no improvement in weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I would like to see him turn it around and be a successful manager. However I don't think he has any idea to change it. Why is Doolan constantly isolated up front? Why are we still terrible at defending set pieces? Why was Craigen marking Considine yesterday? These are the managers things to deal with and there has been no improvement in weeks. Who's to say he isn't trying to change it? Once the players cross the line there's very little he can do apart from making subs. Aberdeen and Dundee United look like the ones who will fight it out for 2nd place. We've had a bad run of fixtures where we seem to be playing these teams every week at the moment. Didn't do ourselves any favours in the St. Mirren game of course, but if the ref does his job properly that game could have been very different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Edmonds Posted December 2, 2013 Report Share Posted December 2, 2013 I think it's dangerous to staunchly defend Archibald at all costs purely due to his legendary status at the club, because there are some very valid criticisms of him just now. I'm happy to give him the next month to improve our current downturn and show that he does have some ideas, but if it became clear that a revolutionary appointment like Craig Levein would be willing to work for us, we should take that chance immediately. it could be the difference between us being a short 1-2 year visitor to the top flight or an every-season regular like St Johnstone or ICT who are now in top 6 territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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