Jagman1876 Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 2 points out of 9 at home to st Johnstone Killie and Ross county is just not good enough Time to act now ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistlenowthistleforever Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Watch mate you will get abuse for pointing out the truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milhouse Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 The thing is it is absolutely vital to stay up, or in all likelihood you can imagine it being the wilderness years all over again. Lose on Saturday and sack him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thriller Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Paul Hartley anyone ???????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 2 points out of 9 at home to st Johnstone Killie and Ross county is just not good enough Time to act now ??? Dunno what you are implying by 'act now', however it is clear that just hoping it will come right is a road to the first division. We've not been good enough to win for most of the season. Let's face facts, our last two wins have been against Hearts (not a surprise) and Fake Thistle, where we got two of the biggest dollops of luck any team has had this season in the same game. We've thrown away six points this season in the last three minutes (Hearts, Hibs and Killie) and failed to win games we should have buried v Hibs, Fake Thistle and Dross County. We are pleasant on the eye, but at the business end of the day, we are well short. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistlenowthistleforever Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Paul Hartley anyone ???????????? Yip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Yip Nope! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p12tfc Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Sadly I agree now. Tonight was awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 I can hear the sounds of a thousand burst balloons heading this way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 not a chance, players let us down tonight not the manager. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistlenowthistleforever Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Ask yourself this Premiership football or Archie in charge regardless off league? It's not happening end off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Usual suspects, oh and Gus went to Queens Park 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Ask yourself this Premiership football or Archie in charge regardless off league? It's not happening end off What makes you think another manager would have us winning more points and maintaining a style of football people actually want to see? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 What makes you think another manager would have us winning more points and maintaining a style of football people actually want to see? You wanted to see our style if football tonight ? What was it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagman1876 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Something gotta change - first division next year we wouldn't stand a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 still think it's both mate, don't think there is manager available within our budget that could do better, every thing that people who want him to go have said he should be doing he's done, Fraiser should have started when he signed (look how thats gone the guy is short of match practice at this level, under 20's is not the same), play 2 up front, did that in the second half and to be fair we were better (see if we do the same on saturday from the start) etc etc Archie is doing all he can to get the results that we deserve, some of the players may not be good enough at the moment but the board needs to back him 2 players on loan a free agent and guy clearly not wanted is not backing the manager, the only thing they have done is give him time and i still say give him the season perhaps the next if we were to go down, sick of this short term crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 You wanted to see our style if football tonight ? What was it ? From what I gather it wasn't our bestperformance, but what precisely was so bad about team selection,tactics or subs? Lets face it our "talent" is lower end of the league at best...........can't blame Archie for everything, players have to take the blame as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 What makes you think another manager would have us winning more points and maintaining a style of football people actually want to see? What makes you think that carrying on the way we are going will have us win more points? This time last year we were worried about where the next away win was coming from. 365 days on we are worried about whether we will see a home win this season. And do not interpret that as an indication that Archie must go. However let's face facts - there is a problem!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Peebles Tackle Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Was grim tonight, but that 1st half was up there with the worst we've seen all season. Not good enough, but no point in changing manager. Just this afternoon the majority on here we're applauding Archie for his January signings, but tonight he's getting hunted? Played without a real midfield tonight & McMillan was a passenger. Out of position & not match fit. St Johnstone weren't great, but looked solid & to be fair I think we could still be playing tomorrow & not score, although we were better in the 2nd half. Onwards to Saturday. New signings will be bedded in more & the team should have a better shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Laughable. I was for supporting Archie but today along with the last 2 games was truly appalling. Only Erskine and Doolan get pass marks today. Lawless, Fraser and Craigen could hardly even control the ball. A comfortable win for the team with the worst away record in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avie-man Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Still believe Archie deserves the season, but relegation back to the 1st division would set the club on another long period in the lower leagues. There is no chance we'd win promotion from that league next year. League is very poor, and the home form lately simply unacceptable. The league Lambie kept us up in was one with a strong old firm, and the rest of the clubs spending decent money compared to this watered down imitation with no Rangers, Hearts broke and the majority of others living within their means. Edited January 21, 2014 by avie-man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DublinMagyar Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 What makes you think that carrying on the way we are going will have us win more points? This time last year we were worried about where the next away win was coming from. 365 days on we are worried about whether we will see a home win this season. And do not interpret that as an indication that Archie must go. However let's face facts - there is a problem!!! Yes there is a problem, we don't have enough money to attract "Premiership" qualty players so the young lads have to step up...........thats gonna take time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 From what I gather it wasn't our bestperformance, but what precisely was so bad about team selection,tactics or subs? Lets face it our "talent" is lower end of the league at best...........can't blame Archie for everything, players have to take the blame as well I think not our best performance is a slight understatement We had no ball winner in midfield and we were way too attacking in selection given our midfield.... He actually put Elliott on in centre midfield Jesus!! I agree the players need to take their share but Archie is not blameless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andynptfc Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Why would we bring in a guy who knows nothing about our players or about how we play, when we have a manager in charge who already knows the team inside out and has already proven last season that he can get the best out of they players? Archie might still be learning, but so are the players, so how is changing the manager going to make any difference? Especially for a guy like Paul Hartley who is even less experienced at this level than Archie. Tonight was massively disappointing, and the players need to look at themselves after that first half performance, but I don't see how someone else in charge is going to get them playing any better. We all know Archie won't be sacked anyway so suggesting it, or any replacements, is a waste of time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistlenowthistleforever Posted January 21, 2014 Report Share Posted January 21, 2014 Okay the Gus comment was a bad one and madness on my part. But come on guys he has to go! Yes the players should take some blame but that's not how it works in this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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