Islay jag Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Got what he deserved yesterday Subbed! He and Taylor were rotten from the first minute so why should he have been kept on? Some of the crap on this forum about Archibald being tactically naive is laughable frankly, by far the smallest budget means fewer options unfortunately. Whilst I'm on my rant, what happened to our wonderful support, to be honest we were rotten too, strangely subdued atmosphere that was matched by the team. Playoffs here we come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Got what he deserved yesterday Subbed! He and Taylor were rotten from the first minute so why should he have been kept on? Some of the crap on this forum about Archibald being tactically naive is laughable frankly, by far the smallest budget means fewer options unfortunately. Whilst I'm on my rant, what happened to our wonderful support, to be honest we were rotten too, strangely subdued atmosphere that was matched by the team. Playoffs here we come! Oh oh! Now youve done it. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uberteeb Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Got what he deserved yesterday Subbed! He and Taylor were rotten from the first minute so why should he have been kept on? Some of the crap on this forum about Archibald being tactically naive is laughable frankly, by far the smallest budget means fewer options unfortunately. Whilst I'm on my rant, what happened to our wonderful support, to be honest we were rotten too, strangely subdued atmosphere that was matched by the team. Playoffs here we come! Terrible decision by Higginbotham not to change the formation when it became clear after 20 minutes our midfield was as solid as a coffee cream. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partick monkey Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 We were looking pretty comfortable for the first 20mins... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JobbyMahoney Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Sometimes his ***** dancing works, sometimes it doesn't. Yesterday it certainly didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted April 6, 2014 Members Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 It was clearly never going to be his day. Every pass that went to him bounced just before it reached him and went over him or past him. When your luck's out, your luck's out. When he got the ball with just one defender to beat at 1-1, I'm sure he had visions of the Hibs goal he scored just a couple of weeks before. Unfortunately the Hearts player was a bit better than the Hibs defence that day and showed him the outside and Higgy ran out of ideas missing the opportunity to slip in Taylor at the same time. All round it would have been a very frustrating day for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Got what he deserved yesterday Subbed! He and Taylor were rotten from the first minute so why should he have been kept on? Some of the crap on this forum about Archibald being tactically naive is laughable frankly, by far the smallest budget means fewer options unfortunately. Whilst I'm on my rant, what happened to our wonderful support, to be honest we were rotten too, strangely subdued atmosphere that was matched by the team. Playoffs here we come! I trust that fatalism isn't shared by the support as a whole or the backing will indeed be subdued over the next five games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulguy jag Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 The entire team were an absolute disgrace to the jersey yesterday.Lets hope it was a one off and they now get the finger out. Five cup finals approaching,anymore of yesterdays debacle and we are heading for a nervy playoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 The entire team were an absolute disgrace to the jersey yesterday.Lets hope it was a one off and they now get the finger out. Five cup finals approaching,anymore of yesterdays debacle and we are heading for a knicker wetting playoff. Changed that for you MJ...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Can't be arsed with jargon terms like 5 cup finals. Call it like it is is. It is 5 league games where we are fighting for our future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westertonjagfan Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 It was clearly never going to be his day. Every pass that went to him bounced just before it reached him and went over him or past him. When your luck's out, your luck's out. When he got the ball with just one defender to beat at 1-1, I'm sure he had visions of the Hibs goal he scored just a couple of weeks before. Unfortunately the Hearts player was a bit better than the Hibs defence that day and showed him the outside and Higgy ran out of ideas missing the opportunity to slip in Taylor at the same time. All round it would have been a very frustrating day for him. I am a massive Higgy fan. My player of the year without doubt. I said to my pal, just after Higgy failed to make that pass to Taylor that you mention, that I could see Archie taking him off for trying the shot rather than passing for what Mayhave been a Taylor goal. I get how Higgy can frustrate, but that boy lives and breathes football and wants to play every pass in every game. As others have said, he's certainly not a one man band and assists as much as runs for goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Got what he deserved yesterday Subbed! He and Taylor were rotten from the first minute so why should he have been kept on? Some of the crap on this forum about Archibald being tactically naive is laughable frankly, by far the smallest budget means fewer options unfortunately. Whilst I'm on my rant, what happened to our wonderful support, to be honest we were rotten too, strangely subdued atmosphere that was matched by the team. Playoffs here we come! Hearts budget is 0 and they're playing their under 20s and 17s, so your point is invalid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Hearts budget is 0 and they're playing their under 20s and 17s, so your point is invalid. you want to have a serious reflection on your statement and its accuracy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 you want to have a serious reflection on your statement and its accuracy? Are you serious? They are in administration and potentially days away from liquidation. Billy Brown works for free they are so skint. Guys like Carrick, Holt, Patterson, King and Nicholson are straight out of their youth team. They had 3 players over 21 in the team that utterly destroyed our sorry lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 Anyone who thinks Higginbotham should have been the first player to be substituted on Saturday is mad. Yes, he was having a poor game. Yes, he made a couple of poor decisions. But he is singlehandedly capable of changing games and was performing no more poorly than most of the rest of the team. It wasn't a lack of attacking width that was our problem. Anyone actually watching the game could see the problem was the poor game Fraser (who has had some excellent games this season) was having and the general poor performance of the centre-backs and those sitting just in front of them. Almost all of Hearts' threats came from individual errors among the "back six" and had little if anything to do with the performance of either of the first two players Archie took off. If Archie was of the view that the midfield was underpowered, the logical thing to do would have been either to substitute Taylor, who had an absolute bloody stinker all day (pushing Doolan up and bringing on either Buaben or Moncur) or take off Doolan, who was being dragged back to support the defence at times in the first half the midfield was doing so poorly. The safe option, given the weakness of the midfield was mostly Fraser's fault on Saturday (though Bannigan was also having a sub-par game) would have been to take off Fraser and put on Buaben or Moncur. It was utterly senseless to take off our two main supporting attack threats. It might have made sense had we been looking to change the system properly to a rigid 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1, but that's clearly not what we ended up doing. The Craigen substitution was more bewildering still: let's bring on someone even less well equipped than Fraser to try to change the midfield dynamic. Bewildering. If you want a scapegoat for Saturday's performance, Higginbotham unequivocally is not your man. We lost because Taylor had a stinker, Fraser and Bannigan were about 3 seconds off the pace, Taylor-Sinclair seemed to develop club-foot and Mair and Piccolo were the definition of lethargy, and as a team collectively they showed no fight whatsoever on going 2-1 and 3-1 down. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted April 6, 2014 Report Share Posted April 6, 2014 What Woodstock Jag says is the way I saw it: I'd have taken Fraser off long before halftime and put Buaben on. That said, I think it's much easier to see what's going on from the stand than from the dugout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I wonder if it might be a good idea, at least during the first half, for Archie to get Shaggie to sit in the stand and watch the play unfold. If there are obvious weaknesses that they aren't picking up in the dugout, it would probably be more useful to have someone alert Archie to it at half time rather than have a second voice shouting "track your man" or other such empty words of encouragement from pitchside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Hansen Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I wonder if it might be a good idea, at least during the first half, for Archie to get Shaggie to sit in the stand and watch the play unfold. If there are obvious weaknesses that they aren't picking up in the dugout, it would probably be more useful to have someone alert Archie to it at half time rather than have a second voice shouting "track your man" or other such empty words of encouragement from pitchside. The defeat was bad but the lack of fight was alarming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Both the lack of fight and the apparent inability of either captain or manager to understand what went wrong. That bodes very ill for the future: how can you put anything right if you don't even understand what's wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Both the lack of fight and the apparent inability of either captain or manager to understand what went wrong. That bodes very ill for the future: how can you put anything right if you don't even understand what's wrong? Oh I think they are well aware of what went wrong. However are showing a restraint in not public ally lambasting the players in the press for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Are you serious? They are in administration and potentially days away from liquidation. Billy Brown works for free they are so skint. Guys like Carrick, Holt, Patterson, King and Nicholson are straight out of their youth team. They had 3 players over 21 in the team that utterly destroyed our sorry lot. So guys like Danny Wilson and Hammel are playing for free are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Hearts budget is 0 and they're playing their under 20s and 17s, so your point is invalid. Hearts budget is 0? That's incredible, you would think the press would have mentioned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 I reckon The Cup must have 2 different people using his account. He went from a complete doom merchant to borderline over confidence after our first 2 home wins. Now he's back to being a doom merchant. Talk about knee-jerk reactions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 Oh I think they are well aware of what went wrong. However are showing a restraint in not public ally lambasting the players in the press for it. Maybe, but both the team captain and the manager put on record that they didn't know what happened. It's surely not unreasonable to go on what they are reported as saying, rather than assume they're deliberately lying. After all, they had the option to keep schtum and confine their comments to the dressing room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted April 7, 2014 Report Share Posted April 7, 2014 After all, they had the option to keep schtum and confine their comments to the dressing room. That isn't an option though. Managers and players all have media obligations which are part and parcel of the job. Saying nothing just isn't an option. Do you really need to have this stuff spelled out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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