Gibberish Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Average wage at Thistle for squad, 25k a year, lowest in Scotland, pay them peanuts and you get monkeys I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 There are plenty of monkeys playing in Scotland for much more than 25k per year. Are they getting Brazil nuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nixon Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Citation needed. Edited October 1, 2014 by Richard Nixon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggyMad Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I seriously think our players are on more than £500 per week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulo Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Citation needed. Certification needed I reckon. Average including the youth players? Including what we pay for loan players? How many people were surveyed in this questionnaire? Does someone get 100k and someone get 10k in amongst that? Does that make one a monkey and one a silverback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Average wage at Thistle for squad, 25k a year, lowest in Scotland, pay them peanuts and you get monkeys I guess Probably would have been an accurate post when we were winning the first division. McNamara's article in The Herald when he was touting himself to everyone basically stated our average wage was about £250 a week, but this would have included the kids on buttons. . Beattie said our wage budget was doubling last season. So last season we were probably averaging about 800 or 900 a week. I think we offered Harkins around this figure before he went to St Mirren for double that. Beattie said during pre season it would be increasing, for this season ahead. Whether it has or not, who knows, he has a habit of just blurting out the first thing that comes into his head. I'd estimate our average wage is about 1000 a week. I've heard Fraser is on 1600 a week, you've got to think Higgy and a few new signings are around the 1000-1500 mark. but conversely your Elliotts etc are probably at the lower end of the scale. Worth remembering Lawless spent last season on the final year of his contract, wage, so was still receiving a first division wage with no appearance fee's, so saved us a fortune. I think the accounts are published around December, but we publish the thinest of accounts possible to a "business" our size, so any wages published will include office staff, which has drastically increased in numbers over the last year including at least 2 "management" positions. Edited October 1, 2014 by potty trained Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 At least we're not paying much out in win bonuses. Not doubting potty trained guesstimate for a moment. The number of contract extensions suggests a significant rise in wages. I do tho' doubt the sustainability. Not sure how we can double our wage bill without a significant upturn in attendances. Increased gate prices and higher divvy out money can only go so far towards funding. And no cup runs of late and no player sales to go in the pot doesn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Average wage at Thistle for squad, 25k a year, lowest in Scotland, pay them peanuts and you get monkeys I guess Lower than Queens Park who pay nothing? No wonder Sinclair left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 When we won the First Division, I know one of our first team starters was on £300 per week with a "pretty decent" win bonus (I don't know the figure). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibberish Posted October 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Lower than Queens Park who pay nothing? No wonder Sinclair left. What sence do you ever make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Read your post again: Average wage at Thistle for squad, 25k a year, lowest in Scotland, pay them peanuts and you get monkeys I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nixon Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 What sence do you ever make? IRONY ALERT Also, please post whatever evidence you have for your claims, on this and other threads, of inside knowledge of our club. Otherwise, please stop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north stander Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 What sence do you ever make? It's spelt Sense. Bet you can't wait until you go to the big school in 3 years time. It'll be sencayshinil!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Small bit in today's Sunday Mail (page 70) has our wages nearly doubling from £899,328 to £1,672,749 with turnover almost at £3,000,000 - states that is from the annual accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gianlucatoni Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 ... to put that into context, Rooney earns that in just over 5 weeks. I know what I'd rather have and trust the board are not running us into the ground financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Small bit in today's Sunday Mail (page 70) has our wages nearly doubling from £899,328 to £1,672,749 with turnover almost at £3,000,000 - states that is from the annual accounts. So probably wages circa 60% of turnover. Ten year or so ago that would've been considered remarkably low. Dundee managed to peak at over 150%, Dunfermline over 130% and god knows what Livingston were at. Nowadays I hear football wages to turnover should be below 50% and most peer clubs are striving to maintain that level. I suppose we're on track and being over the 50/50 mark will be mainly down to the transition from Div 1 to SPL. Other rival clubs have sold the odd player for a six figure sum to augment turnover. That's something we'll have to do, especially given our low attendances, if we're to pay wages remotely close to what other bottom SPFL clubs can offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
read'n'yell Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 So probably wages circa 60% of turnover. Ten year or so ago that would've been considered remarkably low. Dundee managed to peak at over 150%, Dunfermline over 130% and god knows what Livingston were at. Nowadays I hear football wages to turnover should be below 50% and most peer clubs are striving to maintain that level. I suppose we're on track and being over the 50/50 mark will be mainly down to the transition from Div 1 to SPL. Other rival clubs have sold the odd player for a six figure sum to augment turnover. That's something we'll have to do, especially given our low attendances, if we're to pay wages remotely close to what other bottom SPFL clubs can offer. Most players that sell are started at a very early age 16/17 in the first team. I don't know why we don't do it more often. Play a boy that age for 10 games and suddenly everyone wants him cause they have "huge potential". Our way of slowly introducing players to the scene so they aren't up and running until their twenties just doesn't get the publicity you need to sell them. Clubs think they have developed to their potential and if they want them they will wait until their contract is up. Hearts getting 250k for King is laughable and a prime example. We need to start seeing the investment in playing youngsters at an early age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Stevenson IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibberish Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Average wage for 1st team 30k a year, staff outside of players must be on a fair wedge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 I was a friend of a friend of ex-Hibs player Kevin McCann. He was on a low wage at Hibs but his rent, mobile phone and car were all paid for by the club. I don't know if that is the same at Firhill but I would doubt Higgy, Stevenson or Osman are on less than £1000 a week including any benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Average wage at Thistle for squad, 25k a year, lowest in Scotland, pay them peanuts and you get monkeys I guess Your man in the know is feeding you a lot of shit. Probably testing toy to see if you know how to keep things to yourself. Unless we have a 67 man squad, of course. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Small bit in today's Sunday Mail (page 70) has our wages nearly doubling from £899,328 to £1,672,749 with turnover almost at £3,000,000 - states that is from the annual accounts. Wonder if that figure is all wages or just players, seeing as we have added a lot of admin staff recently on a wage that OneThistle used to do for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Wonder if that figure is all wages or just players, seeing as we have added a lot of admin staff recently on a wage that OneThistle used to do for free I don't know but if we look at it from another angle it may help. Over the last few years we have been breaking even so if we assume that was the case for 13/14 then we would be spending approx £1.2 - £1.3M on everything else apart from wages. Does that sound realistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted October 12, 2014 Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 I don't know but if we look at it from another angle it may help. Over the last few years we have been breaking even so if we assume that was the case for 13/14 then we would be spending approx £1.2 - £1.3M on everything else apart from wages. Does that sound realistic? For last season we had 46 players on the books, but 7 of them were only here for 6 months, so 42.5 wages. 20 of them were youth players probably on around £200 a week so £208k a year for them. That leaves £1672541 split 22.5 ways or £1430 a week average, I could maybe see that for some of the loan players but I'm sure the £800 a week was banded for our 1st team squad last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibberish Posted October 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2014 Your man in the know is feeding you a lot of shit. Probably testing toy to see if you know how to keep things to yourself. Unless we have a 67 man squad, of course. Think I'm just highlighting a bit more knowledge than you my man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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