Stats Watch 2015-16

[The Sunnylaw Jag]

No own goals then?

[Dick Dastardly]

No own goals then?

 

But that does bring another daft question for a wet Saturday with no game on. Player who have scored for and against us, but never played for us !

(ie scored against us and also got an own goal) I can't think of any off the top of my head

[mgow]

 

 

But that does bring another daft question for a wet Saturday with no game on. Player who have scored for and against us, but never played for us !

(ie scored against us and also got an own goal) I can't think of any off the top of my head

 

Kenny Deuchar

[lady-isobel-barnett]

Kenny Deuchar

 

One of the most prolific own goals in recent years

[Barney Rubble]

But that does bring another daft question for a wet Saturday with no game on. Player who have scored for and against us, but never played for us !

(ie scored against us and also got an own goal) I can't think of any off the top of my head

 

Tommy Gemmell (in the same game too!).

Edited December 6, 2015 by Barney Rubble

[The Jukebox Rebel]

No own goals then?

Only a solidarity debit on the current books and that belongs to big Freddy, with that howler at Fir Park several weeks back.

 

But that does bring another daft question for a wet Saturday with no game on. Player who have scored for and against us, but never played for us !

(ie scored against us and also got an own goal) I can't think of any off the top of my head

Before Deuchar, there's been Scott McLaughlin, Todd Lumsden and Paul Simpson in the last decade or two.

 

Former Jag, Eric Paton, also did the deed without the need of a Thistle shirt.

 

Notably Colin Murdock did it in the same game - a 2-1 Wednesday evening Thistle victory at Easter Road in May, 2004.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Thistle have never registered 3 consecutive clean-sheets against Dundee United in the League.

 

Furthermore, a victory or a clean-sheet at Tannadice could see Thistle equal as many as 3 H2H records against the DABs...

 

 

Most consecutive wins at Tannadice - 2

 

08.02.1964 Dundee United [a] W2-1 (SFL First Division - game 24)

19.08.1964 Dundee United [a] W2-1 (SFL First Division - game 1)

 

 

Most consecutive wins vs. Dundee United - 3

 

23.12.1961 Dundee United [a] W5-3 (SFL First Division - game 16)

23.04.1962 Dundee United [h] W4-2 (SFL First Division - game 33)

06.10.1962 Dundee United [h] W3-0 (SFL First Division - game 6)

 

12.10.1963 Dundee United [h] W1-0 (SFL First Division - game 7)

08.02.1964 Dundee United [a] W2-1 (SFL First Division - game 24)

19.08.1964 Dundee United [a] W2-1 (SFL First Division - game 1)

 

 

Most consecutive clean-sheets vs. Dundee United - 3

 

01.03.1977 Dundee United [a] D0-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 23)

09.04.1977 Dundee United [h] D0-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 31)

31.08.1977 Dundee United [h] D0-0 (League Cup 2nd Round, 1st leg)

[Dick Dastardly]

Want to put any more pressure on the lads for Saturday ?

 

(I'll settle for the clean sheets and let the others take care of themselves)

[Diego]

Query: when's the last time the form table looked so good?

 

[Barney Rubble]

Query: when's the last time the form table looked so good?

 

 

1963

[allyo]

There was talk on the radio that this is only the second time in about 30 years that Thistle have recorded three successive top league wins. But I reckon we did it late last season (Motherwell, Ross Co, St Mirren). So I'm wondering, when did we last do it twice in the same year?

[sick in the basin]

Could be mistaken but isn't today first win in away strip for around 20 odd games?

[Veejag]

18 I believe.

 

 

[Chachi]

Anyone know why Aberdeen are only 6th on that form table?

[Albert's Ghost]

Anyone know why Aberdeen are only 6th on that form table?

The table is looking back 10 games. The WDL stuff on the right is the last 6. They've done well recently, but so-so over 10.

[Ancipital]

Dools has scored for 3 games in a row in the top flight- who was last to do so?

 

Away strip curse ended after 3 years.

[allyo]

Dools has scored for 3 games in a row in the top flight- who was last to do so?

 

Away strip curse ended after 3 years.

 

I just came on to ask exactly that question. ☺

 

Actually, looking again, not quite. He's scored in three successive top flight WINS.I reckon you'd be going back a while to find the last Jags player to do that.

Edited December 13, 2015 by allyo

[a f kincaid]

There was talk on the radio that this is only the second time in about 30 years that Thistle have recorded three successive top league wins. But I reckon we did it late last season (Motherwell, Ross Co, St Mirren). So I'm wondering, when did we last do it twice in the same year?

 

Taking only the Prem Div, SPL and SPFL into account...

 

4 straight wins October 77/78

Celtic 1-0

Dundee Utd 2-1

Ayr Utd 2-1

M0therwell 1-0.

 

3 straight wins November 77/78

Clydebank 1-0

Hibs 3-2

Aberdeen 1-0

 

(This was actually 7 games undefeated:- 4 wins, a draw and 3 wins.)

 

3 straight wins November 78/79

Rangers 1-0

Hearts 1-0

St Mirren 2-1

 

3 straight wins April 94-95

Hearts 3-1

Motherwell 2-1

Hearts 1-0

 

3 straight wins April-May 14-15

Motherwell 2-0

Ross County 2-1

St Mirren 3-0

 

3 straight wins November-December 15-16

ICT 2-1

Kilmarnock 5-2

Dundee Utd 1-0

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Want to put any more pressure on the lads for Saturday ?

 

(I'll settle for the clean sheets and let the others take care of themselves)

It's about bl**dy time one of these "advance notices" came off

 

Query: when's the last time the form table looked so good?

 

These queries are always a bit loose-caboose but, in any given top-flight season, you could reasonably argue Lambie's feat of losing 1 of his last 12 games in the top-flight of 1994-95 was the last time we were on a better run...

07.03.1995 Dundee United [h] W2-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 25)

11.03.1995 Aberdeen [h] D2-2 (SFL Premier Division - game 26)

14.03.1995 Motherwell [h] D0-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 27)

01.04.1995 Hibernian [h] D2-2 (SFL Premier Division - game 28)

04.04.1995 Heart of Midlothian [h] W3-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 29)

08.04.1995 Motherwell [a] W2-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 30)

15.04.1995 Heart of Midlothian [a] W1-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 31)

18.04.1995 Dundee United [h] L1-3 (SFL Premier Division - game 32)

29.04.1995 Kilmarnock [a] D0-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 33)

02.05.1995 Celtic [a] W3-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 34)

06.05.1995 Falkirk [h] D0-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 35)

13.05.1995 Rangers [a] D1-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 36)

 

Actually, looking again, not quite. He's scored in three successive top flight WINS.I reckon you'd be going back a while to find the last Jags player to do that.

^ Great stuff...

 

The menace is the answer to that one; back in 1972:

 

15.01.1972 Morton [h] W2-0 (SFL First Division - game 21)

Alex Rae; Denis McQuade

 

22.01.1972 Kilmarnock [a] W4-1 (SFL First Division - game 22)

Jimmy Bone; Jimmy Bone; Denis McQuade; Johnny Gibson

 

29.01.1972 Dunfermline Athletic [h] W2-0 (SFL First Division - game 23)

Denis McQuade; Jim Fraser (og)

 

Andy Kerr was last man to beyond this point, doing 4-in-a-row in 1957:

 

07.12.1957 Queen of the South [h] W4-3 (SFL First Division - game 14)

George Smith; Andy Kerr; Andy Kerr; Davie McParland

 

14.12.1957 Raith Rovers [h] W3-2 (SFL First Division - game 15)

George Smith; Andy Kerr; Davie McParland

 

21.12.1957 Celtic [a] W3-2 (SFL First Division - game 16)

Davie Mathers; Andy Kerr; John Harvey

 

28.12.1957 East Fife [h] W5-1 (SFL First Division - game 17)

Alex Wright; Alex Wright; Alex Wright; Andy Kerr; Davie McParland

 

Davie Ness has the mighty category record, managing to score in 7 straight top-flight wins:

 

08.10.1932 Morton [h] W2-1 (SFL First Division - game 10)

Alex Elliot; Davie Ness

 

22.10.1932 Ayr United [h] W7-0 (SFL First Division - game 11)

John Torbet; John Torbet; Johnny Ballantyne; Johnny Ballantyne; Davie Ness; Lachlan MacMillan; George Boardman

 

29.10.1932 Motherwell [a] W2-1 (SFL First Division - game 12)

Davie Ness; Johnny Ballantyne

 

05.11.1932 Celtic [h] W3-0 (SFL First Division - game 13)

George Boardman; Davie Ness; Johnny Ballantyne

 

12.11.1932 Airdrieonians [a] W1-0 (SFL First Division - game 14)

Davie Ness

 

26.11.1932 Cowdenbeath [h] W4-1 (SFL First Division - game 15)

George Boardman; George Boardman; Davie Ness; John Torbet

 

03.12.1932 Dundee [h] W4-0 (SFL First Division - game 16)

Davie Ness; Johnny Ballantyne; George Boardman; John Torbet

 

Taking only the Prem Div, SPL and SPFL into account...

 

4 straight wins October 77/78

Celtic 1-0

Dundee Utd 2-1

Ayr Utd 2-1

M0therwell 1-0.

 

3 straight wins November 77/78

Clydebank 1-0

Hibs 3-2

Aberdeen 1-0

What an incredible 8 game run - propelled the Jags from 8th to 2nd.

 

08.10.1977 Celtic [h] W1-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 8)

15.10.1977 Dundee United [h] W2-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 9)

22.10.1977 Ayr United [a] W2-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 10)

29.10.1977 Motherwell [h] W1-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 11)

05.11.1977 Rangers [a] D3-3 (SFL Premier Division - game 12)

12.11.1977 Clydebank [h] W1-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 13)

19.11.1977 Hibernian [a] W3-2 (SFL Premier Division - game 14)

26.11.1977 Aberdeen [h] W1-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 15)

 

I well remember that 3-3 at Ibrox as my old man lost the car keys in the celebrations and we were stranded in Govan 'til stupid o'clock. : - (

[partickthedog]

Fantastic stats. With Dave Ness in your team, who needs Jamie Vardy?

 

Looking at the beginning of the 2005 run, how did we manage to have 5 home league games in a row?

[The Jukebox Rebel]

12.12.2015 Dundee United 0 Partick Thistle 1 (SPFL Premiership - game 17)

• Thistle register 3 consecutive League clean sheets vs. Dundee United for the first time ever.
  
• Thistle equal several H2H records vs. Dundee United, most notable of which is 3 consecutive competitive wins over them, last achieved more than 50 years ago.
  
• Kris Doolan is the first Jag to net in three consecutive top-flight games since James Grady, who did 4-in-a-row in May 2005.
  
• During the course of this campaign Kris Doolan has moved from 21st to joint 15th in the all-time competitive goals chart. 14th placed Dougie Somner (on 83) is now firmly in his sights. This is history in the making!
  
• Archie's Jags register 3 consecutive top-flight victories for the second time in 2015 - no mean feat considering we've only ever had 3 such runs of 3 since December '78 onwards! Bertie's Jags were last to go beyond this point, winning 4-in-a-row in October 1977.
  
• Thistle register their first competitive victory in the away strip since the truly magnificent 2-1 triumph at home to Cove Rangers 3 years, 1 month and 9 days ago. Kris Doolan scored that day too. Obviously.
  
• In the "all-games" category, Archie started his managerial career with 12 away games unbeaten in 2013, and followed that with a 10 game stretch unbeaten away from home in 2014. There was a further all-game run of 7 away unbeaten in 2015. The current run of 4 away games unbeaten should therefore come as no great surprise to anyone.
  
• League progression at the end of next Saturday's game would mean that, for the first time since October 1977, Thistle had moved upwards in the top-flight table 4 games-in-a-row.
  

 

ongoing sequences:

 

• 4 competitive away games without defeat, 17th Oct 2015 to date.
  
• 21 competitive games without defeat when we score the opening goal, 23rd Sep 2014 to date.
  
• 28 consecutive competitive appearances for Callum Booth, 14th Mar 2015 to date. (Longest run since: Stephen O'Donnell - 29 games; 8th Nov 2014 to 23rd May 2015. Club record: Johnny Jackson - 313 games; 28th Aug 1926 to 25th Mar 1933.)
  
• 55 competitive games without a penalty award, 19th Sep 2014 to date.
  
• 73 competitive games without a goal from a penalty, 22nd Feb 2014 to date.
  

 

 

[allyo]

I really love this stuff. Total addict

[lady-isobel-barnett]

Looking at the goalscorer stats above I note Andy Kerr scored in three consecutive games where his goal (s) were vital to the win. Saving us from a draw twice and a defeat once. I reckon Andy wouldn't be a popular figure with our opponents.

[Veejag]

How many games did it take Somner to reach 83 goals?

 

How does Doolan compare?

 

I realise it's a totally different game these days. Always remember Richie Benaud congratulating Shane Warne on equalling his wicket tally. Warne was quick to point out it had taken him twice as many matches to reach Benaud's record. Benaud, typically, just blushed.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

As a reminder, my definition of competitive action 1876 to date has no tournament omissions...

 

 

Anglo-Scottish Cup; ARR Craib Cup; Challenge Cup; Coull Memorial Trophy; Drybrough Cup; Emergency Cup; Exhibition Cup; FA Cup; Gathering of the Clans Tournament; Glasgow & District Mid-Week League; Glasgow Charity Cup; Glasgow Cup; Glasgow Dental Cup; Glasgow League; Greenock Charity Cup; Ibrox Disaster Tournament; Inter City League; Inter-Cities Fairs Cup; Inter-Toto Cup; July Cup; League Cup; League Play-Offs; Lord Provost's Rent Relief Fund Cup; Maryhill Charity Cup; Motorola Cup; Paisley Charity Cup; Regional League, Western Division; Royal Standard and Grand National Halls Cup; Scottish Alliance; Scottish Cup; Scottish Football League; Scottish Premier League; Scottish Professional Football League; Scottish Qualifying Cup; Southern League Cup; Southern League; Spring Cup; St Mungo Cup; Stirling Charity Cup; Summer Cup; Tennent Caledonian Cup; UEFA Cup; Victory Cup; War Fund Shield; West Of Scotland Cup; Western League; Yoker Cup

 

 

 

In competitive action, I’m fairly confident in saying that Dougie's 83rd came in his 203rd appearance (although I always dread the possibility of unearthing a substitution yet untold).

 

For sure, Kris has bagged 81 after 254 appearances.

 

At the time of his 83rd, Dougie had scored in 40.9% of his appearances.

 

At the time of his 81st, Kris has scored in 31.9% of his.

 

However, what’s extremely interesting in Kris’s case, is his goals to minutes ratio.

 

I can only make an educated guess as to Dougie’s game time, due to a lack of substitutions data. From what I do know, I’d guess that he played an average somewhere in the region of 85 minutes per game.

 

At the time of his 83rd, his goals to game time ratio would therefore be approximately one per 208 minutes.

 

By contrast, Kris’s game time is way down at just 59½ minutes. His goals to minutes ratio sits at one per 186 minutes.

 

You could swing the pendulum both ways in this comparison - Somner's exploits were predominantly top-tier, Doolan's second. Then again, Somner would hardly know what the definition of a lone striker was. It's a tricky one...

 

I've long considered "the fearless Dougie" to be my favourite ever Thistle player. Still is. I'm serioulsy wondering if he'll still have that crown when the time comes for "first-touch Kris" to hang up the boots.

 

Let's just call them two Thistle legends!