Stats Watch 2015-16

[The Jukebox Rebel]

I appreciate that there is a debate to be had about the application and effectiveness as a winger of David Amoo. What cannot be questioned is his penchant for being in the right place in the penalty box to score with his head. We are only approx 60% through the season and already he has scored 3 headed goals.

 

TJR and other stattos, when did a Jags player last score more than 3 headed goals in a top league season? If we extend this to lower tiers, I suspect that 1,2 or 3 out of Conrad Balatoni, Steven Craig and Kris Doolan may have achieved this feat in our promotion season 2012-2013. Apart from that, my recollection is that prolific headed scoring is relatively rare, and we may have to go back to such as Martin Hardie to find another example.

 

Couldn’t easily tell you ptd, sorry. Last term, 13 out of our 53 competitive goals (24.5%) came from headers. Conrad got 3 of those, as did Kris.

 

So far this season, 5 out of our 23 (21.7%) competitive goals have come from headers; 3 from David, 1 from Liam and 1 from Kris.

 

While I’m here, I can tell you goals from the right foot of Thistle players are down from 47.2% to 21.7% this season. Just thought you’d like to know.

 

 

"Dundee are the first side to return 4 first half goals against Thistle since Clyde led Dick Campbell's Jags by 4 goals to nil in a First Division encounter at Firhill in March, 2007."

 

Thanks for that reminder.

 

“Stats Watch is like life…”

~ Rev. I.M. Jolly

 

 

I remember Dennis McQuade scoring 3 with his head in a single match

 

Thanks for this, a cool slice of Jaggy trivia.

 

This was the first of Denis's two hat-tricks for the club, the only one which was all headers.

 

All goals came in the first half, with Thistle in white shirt and black shorts. There were 8,925 witnesses.

 

06.11.1971 Dundee United [h] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 10)

Denis McQuade (1-0, 5 mins); Denis McQuade (2-1, 32 mins); Denis McQuade (3-1, 38 mins)

[partickthedog]

Thanks TJR, I will need to re-watch the Championship winning DVD and count the headers!

[chunky jag]

I love this thread

[The Jukebox Rebel]

23.01.2016 Inverness CT 0 Partick Thistle 0 (SPFL Premiership - game 22)

• Thistle are 7 competitive games without a half-time lead.
  
• Thistle are 6 League games unbeaten versus Inverness CT, extending the H2H club-record run in the category.
  
• Thistle have failed to score in 11 out of 22 (50%) League games this season. Across the 10 main British Leagues, only Alloa Athletic (62%) have a greater deficiency.
  
• The nil-nil draw takes over as Thistle's most common League result this season, yesterday being the 4th occurence.
  
• In competitive action, Thistle have only conceded one solitary first-half goal in their last 8 away fixtures.
  
• Thistle are exactly on course to match last season's historically impressive return of 12 clean-sheets in the League, which was the club's best top-flight return since 1930-31.
  

 

ongoing sequences...

 

• 4 League games without a win, 30th Dec 2015 to date. (Longest run since: 12 games; 9th May 2015 to 26th Sep 2015. Club record: 26 games; 28th Nov 1908 to 2nd Oct 1909.)
  
• 7 competitive games without a half-time lead, 12th Dec 2015 to date. (Longest run since: 19 games; 7th Mar 2015 to 26th Sep 2015.)
  
• 23 competitive games without defeat when we score the opening goal, 23rd Sep 2014 to date. (Longest run since: 23 games; 20th Oct 2007 to 31st Jan 2009.)
  
• 34 consecutive competitive appearances for Callum Booth, 14th Mar 2015 to date. (Longest run since: Aaron Taylor-Sinclair - 56 games; 27th Oct 2012 to 18th Jan 2014. Club record: Johnny Jackson - 313 games; 28th Aug 1926 to 25th Mar 1933.)
  
• 61 competitive games without a penalty award, 19th Sep 2014 to date. (Longest run since the club-record: 106 games; 10th Oct 1891 to 14th Dec 1895. *)
  
• 79 competitive games without a goal from a penalty, 22nd Feb 2014 to date. (Longest run since the club-record: 114 games; 8th Aug 1891 to 14th Dec 1895. *)
  

 

* For these queries, the sequence begins with the introduction of the penalty-kick law in season 1891-92. The perceived club-record, although possible, should be treated with some degree of caution due to the scant nature of some match reports from the era.

 

 

 

 

Looking ahead...

 

Next weekend, Partick Thistle have the opportunity of achieving an unequivocal historical first for the club; namely, 4 consecutive wins over Dundee United.

[lady-isobel-barnett]

It would be a helluva convoluted stat to get anything from this but that's four consecutive long distance games we've played without us scoring. I'm only including County, Aberdeen & ICT as "long distance".

 

Something clearly goes way wrong on the team bus once it gets past Perth & Dundee. Archie, sort it out!

[chunky jag]

It would be a helluva convoluted stat to get anything from this but that's four consecutive long distance games we've played without us scoring. I'm only including County, Aberdeen & ICT as "long distance".

 

Something clearly goes way wrong on the team bus once it gets past Perth & Dundee. Archie, sort it out!

 

only conceded 1 goal in those 4 games however, that is excellent by anyones standards

 

but yeh our goalscoring record has got to improve 4 0-0 draws this season, if we'd nicked a goal in 2 of them we'd be sitting a bit more comfortably with regards to 11th

[Ancipital]

Not sure if you keep stats for this, but what's the numbers like for postponements over the years at Firhill?

[The Jukebox Rebel]

We should have known when our first-ever game at Firhill was postponed!

 

No records for postponments I'm afraid. I can tell you that we've only ever had two known total monthly all-fixture wipeouts: February 1947 and January 1979. (note: January 1879 and November 1880 are other possibilities but I couldn't be sure as we may have had unreported matches.)

 

Most days without a game at Firhill within same season (and how the run was broken)

 

77 - 24.02.1979 Airdrieonians [h] W3-0 (Scottish Cup 4th Round)

70 - 31.01.1970 Hibernian [h] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 19)

63 - 08.03.1947 Third Lanark [h] W3-1 (SFL Division A - game 25)

60 - 13.04.1949 St Mirren [h] W3-0 (SFL Division A - game 28)

57 - 24.01.1982 Dumbarton [h] L1-2 (Scottish Cup 3rd Round)

52 - 27.01.1987 Queen of the South [h] W3-0 (SFL First Division - game 28)

52 - 22.03.1994 St Johnstone [h] D0-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 33)

49 - 15.05.1943 Third Lanark [h] L2-3 (Glasgow Charity Cup Semi Final)

49 - 03.06.1944 Third Lanark [h] W3-1 (Summer Cup 1st Round, 1st leg)

49 - 05.02.1977 Aberdeen [h] W2-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 18)

49 - 01.02.1986 Ayr United [h] D2-2 (SFL First Division - game 23)

49 - 26.01.1991 Falkirk [h] D0-0 (Scottish Cup 3rd Round)

[lady-isobel-barnett]

We should have known when our first-ever game at Firhill was postponed!

 

No records for postponments I'm afraid. I can tell you that we've only ever had two known total monthly all-fixture wipeouts: February 1947 and January 1979. (note: January 1879 and November 1880 are other possibilities but I couldn't be sure as we may have had unreported matches.)

 

Most days without a game at Firhill within same season (and how the run was broken)

 

77 - 24.02.1979 Airdrieonians [h] W3-0 (Scottish Cup 4th Round)

70 - 31.01.1970 Hibernian [h] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 19)

63 - 08.03.1947 Third Lanark [h] W3-1 (SFL Division A - game 25)

60 - 13.04.1949 St Mirren [h] W3-0 (SFL Division A - game 28)

57 - 24.01.1982 Dumbarton [h] L1-2 (Scottish Cup 3rd Round)

52 - 27.01.1987 Queen of the South [h] W3-0 (SFL First Division - game 28)

52 - 22.03.1994 St Johnstone [h] D0-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 33)

49 - 15.05.1943 Third Lanark [h] L2-3 (Glasgow Charity Cup Semi Final)

49 - 03.06.1944 Third Lanark [h] W3-1 (Summer Cup 1st Round, 1st leg)

49 - 05.02.1977 Aberdeen [h] W2-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 18)

49 - 01.02.1986 Ayr United [h] D2-2 (SFL First Division - game 23)

49 - 26.01.1991 Falkirk [h] D0-0 (Scottish Cup 3rd Round)

 

So even longer between home league games in season 78-79! 11 plus weeks between home league games is rather remarkable. About the same gap as the close season.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

^ Indeed. Touching 3 whole months without a home League game. Miller Reid must've been dae'n his nut!

[partickthedog]

^ Indeed. Touching 3 whole months without a home League game. Miller Reid must've been dae'n his nut!

 

Is the legendary winter of 1963 not in there somewhere?

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Is the legendary winter of 1963 not in there somewhere?

I always get slightly worried that I might have made a right Noel Hunt of it, but, naw, I'm a'rite

 

We managed to get a couple of Firhill Scottish Cup ties in between a long barren run without League games, hence the reason it doesn't feature above. Isolating the query to the League games only, the Winter of 63 is right up there:

 

Most days between League games at Firhill within same season (and how the run was broken)

 

84 - 03.03.1979 Motherwell [h] D0-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 21)

77 - 23.02.1991 Raith Rovers [h] L0-3 (SFL First Division - game 23)

70 - 24.02.1951 St Mirren [h] D1-1 (SFL Division A - game 19)

70 - 09.03.1963 Queen of the South [h] L0-1 (SFL First Division - game 20)

70 - 31.01.1970 Hibernian [h] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 19)

67 - 03.02.1982 Aberdeen [h] D0-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 18)

63 - 26.04.1941 Celtic [h] W3-2 (Southern League - game 30)

63 - 08.03.1947 Third Lanark [h] W3-1 (SFL Division A - game 25)

60 - 13.04.1949 St Mirren [h] W3-0 (SFL Division A - game 28)

59 - 22.03.1994 St Johnstone [h] D0-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 33)

54 - 25.02.1978 Dundee United [h] L0-2 (SFL Premier Division - game 23)

53 - 02.04.1980 Morton [h] L0-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 27)

52 - 27.01.1987 Queen of the South [h] W3-0 (SFL First Division - game 28)

[The Earl of Hathaway]

OK, here's my question - Scott Fox saved a penalty during normal time today. I can't remember him getting anywhere near a penalty, far less saving one when he played for us. Does the wads of cash from Rossco allow him better penalty-saving skills?

[G SUS]

OK, here's my question - Scott Fox saved a penalty during normal time today. I can't remember him getting anywhere near a penalty, far less saving one when he played for us. Does the wads of cash from Rossco allow him better penalty-saving skills?

 

The one that springs to mind is the penalty save v Cove Rangers in the Scottish Cup.

[Duke Gekantawa]

OK, here's my question - Scott Fox saved a penalty during normal time today. I can't remember him getting anywhere near a penalty, far less saving one when he played for us. Does the wads of cash from Rossco allow him better penalty-saving skills?

Also a crucial penalty save against Cowdenbeath in the League Cup. Maybe he only saves pens in cup games?

[Mr Bunny]

OK, here's my question - Scott Fox saved a penalty during normal time today. I can't remember him getting anywhere near a penalty, far less saving one when he played for us. Does the wads of cash from Rossco allow him better penalty-saving skills?

 

He did well to guess (or "read") what side the kick was going but it was a poor penalty very close to the keeper.

 

Edit: still, no treble for the 'tics, eh. Since R*ngers imploded they have won the league season on season but failed a few times in the cups. Of course their big squad - which no other team in the league can match - with a number of quality players gives them a huge advantage in the league but the biggest club can have off days or bad luck and if this happens in the cup they're out. With the other half not the force they were it's meant more clubs winning in the knock out competitions which is a good thing.

 

Edit again: of course Celtic have kindly been giving other teams a chance by persisting in playing Efe Ambrose.

Edited February 1, 2016 by Mr Bunny

[Jaggernaut]

It looked like a completely accidental hand ball in any case, and it hardly even touched the guy's hand.

 

How can the likes of Ross County beat that mob and yet we cannae ?

[The Jukebox Rebel]

How can the likes of Ross County beat that mob and yet we cannae ?

And how can virtually every one of our peer group get to Cup Finals these days and we cannae? :insert imaginary sobbing emoticon:

 

 

OK, here's my question - Scott Fox saved a penalty during normal time today. I can't remember him getting anywhere near a penalty, far less saving one when he played for us. Does the wads of cash from Rossco allow him better penalty-saving skills?

Scott's penalty record wasn't great - but it was improving. He conceded 10 out of 10 before latterly improving this ratio; only 6 of his final 11 were conceded.

 

In his "all games" total, he physically stopped 3 out of 21.

 

11.12.2010 Ross County [h] D1-1 (SFL First Division - game 14)

✔ Richard Brittain (0-1, pen 18 mins)

 

15.01.2011 Stirling Albion [h] W6-1 (SFL First Division - game 17)

✔ Chris Aitken (6-1, pen 90 mins)

 

15.02.2011 Cowdenbeath [a] D1-1 (SFL First Division - game 20)

✔ Archie Campbell (0-1, pen 8 mins)

 

22.02.2011 Greenock Morton [a] L0-1 (SFL First Division - game 21)

✔ Derek Lyle (0-1, pen 15 mins)

 

30.04.2011 Dundee [a] L2-3 (SFL First Division - game 35)

✔ Matthew Lockwood (1-3, pen 71 mins)

 

13.07.2011 Motherwell [a] L0-1 (Stephen Craigan Testimonial)

✔ Stephen Craigan (0-1, pen 2 mins)

 

30.07.2011 Berwick Rangers [h] L1-3 (League Cup 1st Round)

✔ Paul Currie (1-3, pen 78 mins)

 

06.08.2011 Dundee [h] L0-1 (SFL First Division - game 1)

✔ Matt Lockwood (0-1, pen 90 mins)

 

09.08.2011 Hamilton Academical [a] L0-1 (Challenge Cup 2nd Round)

✔ Jason Chambers (0-1, pen 86 mins)

 

10.09.2011 Ross County [a] D2-2 (SFL First Division - game 5)

✔ Richard Brittain (0-1, pen 13 mins)

 

18.02.2012 Greenock Morton [h] D0-0 (SFL First Division - game 22)

✘ Archie Campbell (missed target @ 0-0, 59 mins)

 

10.03.2012 Falkirk [a] D1-1 (SFL First Division - game 27)

✔ Mark Millar (1-1, pen 52 mins)

 

04.08.2012 Forfar Athletic [a] W2-0 (League Cup 1st Round)

✘ Gavin Swankie (missed target @ 2-0, 43 mins)

 

03.11.2012 Cove Rangers [h] W2-1 (Scottish Cup 3rd Round)

✘ Danny Milne (saved @ 2-0, 59 mins)

 

16.02.2013 Greenock Morton [a] D2-2 (SFL First Division - game 21)

✔ Peter MacDonald (2-2, pen 81 mins)

 

27.08.2013 Cowdenbeath [h] W3-1 (League Cup 2nd Round)

✘ Jamie Stevenson (saved @ 0-0, 53 mins)

 

19.09.2014 St Mirren [h] L1-2 (SPFL Premiership - game 6)

✔ Kenny McLean (1-2, pen 90+3 mins)

 

18.10.2014 Dundee United [a] L0-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 9)

✔ Nadir Ciftci (0-1, pen 84 mins)

 

29.10.2014 Celtic [a] L0-6 (League Cup Quarter Final)

✔ John Guidetti (0-4, pen 55 mins)

 

08.04.2015 Celtic [a] L0-2 (SPFL Premiership - game 32)

✔ Kris Commons (0-1, pen 45 mins)

 

16.05.2015 Kilmarnock [h] L1-4 (SPFL Premiership - game 37)

✘ Jamie Hamill (saved @ 0-0, 24 mins)

[The Earl of Hathaway]

Thanks very much, TJR. I don't know how it compares but it strikes me that a 14.28% success rate isn't that great....

[lady-isobel-barnett]

Did he not also fail to save two or three penalties from fans at some half time gig?

[jaggy]

The save from Hamill went straight back to him and he scored the rebound, so the stat is pointless in that case as a goal still resulted

[Ancipital]

His opposite number yesterday hasn't saved a penalty in his professional career. 35 attempts, which I found even more surprising for a guy who's played in the EPL and has plenty of international caps. 3 missed target, but no saves.

Edited February 1, 2016 by Ancipital

[Jaggernaut]

And how can virtually every one of our peer group get to Cup Finals these days and we cannae? :insert imaginary sobbing emoticon:

 

 

 

Scott's penalty record wasn't great - but it was improving. He conceded 10 out of 10 before latterly improving this ratio; only 6 of his final 11 were conceded.

 

In his "all games" total, he physically stopped 3 out of 21.

 

11.12.2010 Ross County [h] D1-1 (SFL First Division - game 14)

✔ Richard Brittain (0-1, pen 18 mins)

 

15.01.2011 Stirling Albion [h] W6-1 (SFL First Division - game 17)

✔ Chris Aitken (6-1, pen 90 mins)

 

15.02.2011 Cowdenbeath [a] D1-1 (SFL First Division - game 20)

✔ Archie Campbell (0-1, pen 8 mins)

 

22.02.2011 Greenock Morton [a] L0-1 (SFL First Division - game 21)

✔ Derek Lyle (0-1, pen 15 mins)

 

30.04.2011 Dundee [a] L2-3 (SFL First Division - game 35)

✔ Matthew Lockwood (1-3, pen 71 mins)

 

13.07.2011 Motherwell [a] L0-1 (Stephen Craigan Testimonial)

✔ Stephen Craigan (0-1, pen 2 mins)

 

30.07.2011 Berwick Rangers [h] L1-3 (League Cup 1st Round)

✔ Paul Currie (1-3, pen 78 mins)

 

06.08.2011 Dundee [h] L0-1 (SFL First Division - game 1)

✔ Matt Lockwood (0-1, pen 90 mins)

 

09.08.2011 Hamilton Academical [a] L0-1 (Challenge Cup 2nd Round)

✔ Jason Chambers (0-1, pen 86 mins)

 

10.09.2011 Ross County [a] D2-2 (SFL First Division - game 5)

✔ Richard Brittain (0-1, pen 13 mins)

 

18.02.2012 Greenock Morton [h] D0-0 (SFL First Division - game 22)

✘ Archie Campbell (missed target @ 0-0, 59 mins)

 

10.03.2012 Falkirk [a] D1-1 (SFL First Division - game 27)

✔ Mark Millar (1-1, pen 52 mins)

 

04.08.2012 Forfar Athletic [a] W2-0 (League Cup 1st Round)

✘ Gavin Swankie (missed target @ 2-0, 43 mins)

 

03.11.2012 Cove Rangers [h] W2-1 (Scottish Cup 3rd Round)

✘ Danny Milne (saved @ 2-0, 59 mins)

 

16.02.2013 Greenock Morton [a] D2-2 (SFL First Division - game 21)

✔ Peter MacDonald (2-2, pen 81 mins)

 

27.08.2013 Cowdenbeath [h] W3-1 (League Cup 2nd Round)

✘ Jamie Stevenson (saved @ 0-0, 53 mins)

 

19.09.2014 St Mirren [h] L1-2 (SPFL Premiership - game 6)

✔ Kenny McLean (1-2, pen 90+3 mins)

 

18.10.2014 Dundee United [a] L0-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 9)

✔ Nadir Ciftci (0-1, pen 84 mins)

 

29.10.2014 Celtic [a] L0-6 (League Cup Quarter Final)

✔ John Guidetti (0-4, pen 55 mins)

 

08.04.2015 Celtic [a] L0-2 (SPFL Premiership - game 32)

✔ Kris Commons (0-1, pen 45 mins)

 

16.05.2015 Kilmarnock [h] L1-4 (SPFL Premiership - game 37)

✘ Jamie Hamill (saved @ 0-0, 24 mins)

 

Don't want to give you more work, but I'd be interested in seeing Kenny Arthur's penalty-saving record. I was never a huge KA fan, but always felt there was a decent chance of him saving penalties awarded against us.

 

Roughie too.

[Jaggernaut]

His opposite number yesterday hasn't saved a penalty in his professional career. 35 attempts, which I found even more surprising for a guy who's played in the EPL and has plenty of international caps. 3 missed target, but no saves.

 

Impressive stat!

 

Might most of those have been against higher-quality players than in Scotland?

[Lenziejag]

It looked like a completely accidental hand ball in any case, and it hardly even touched the guy's hand.

 

How can the likes of Ross County beat that mob and yet we cannae ?

 

Let's not forget they were playing against 10 men for 77 mins and they were awarded a penalty.