Jordanhill Jag Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 57 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: JJ , you’re absolutely right re naming the stand , it should be named after legends ( Lambie and Mcparland ) You know GB , he’ll tell you himself he was as culpable as the others re Kris Doolan If you’re a CEO of a Company, you’re maybe slightly more than an employee as such , more decisions on a day to day basis and if things don’t go right then the bucks stops at the CEO If not , why not just call GB office manager ? The CEO of a Company normally sits on the Board - He Runs the Company and the Board are answerable to him - the Chairman is normally a Non Exec Position Gerry isnt a CEO in any shape or form - he is a General Manager - he takes instructions from the Board of Directors as an employee - the PR management of Doolan wasnt Gerrys we had a PR Expert as Chairman at the time - Gerry is a Football Guy not a PR expert So Gerry is a Manager - nothing more this is on the Former Board - stop defending them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said: The CEO of a Company normally sits on the Board - He Runs the Company and the Board are answerable to him - the Chairman is normally a Non Exec Position Gerry isnt a CEO in any shape or form - he is a General Manager - he takes instructions from the Board of Directors as an employee - the PR management of Doolan wasnt Gerrys we had a PR Expert as Chairman at the time - Gerry is a Football Guy not a PR expert So Gerry is a Manager - nothing more this is on the Former Board - stop defending them Think GB will be happy he’s only the general manager and not the CEO ! You didn’t have to be a PR expert to know that Dools treatment was disgusting. I’m not defending any of the last couple of Boards, they both made huge mistakes re the managers , Beattie should have changed Archie when we were struggling in the SPFL and also after relegation. Caldwell should have never been appointed at all by JLow and her directors. Time will tell whether David Beattie chased the money or it was in the best interests of our Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 6, 2019 Report Share Posted December 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Jag said: FFS. Here we go again. My immediate reaction as well. Just more point scoring and I told you so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 11 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Given Davie's legacy as a manager was so largely youth orientated, I couldn't have thought of a more fitting tribute to the great man than naming our training ground in his honour. Davie would've known more than most that PTFC have a history of shooting themselves in the foot. He probably wouldn't have been surprised at this let down. Don McVicar's delayed "minute" and John Lambie's delayed testimonial being two examples. Something has to be done to celebrate the memory of Davie McParland now and not ten years from now. It also has to be on par with the fitting nature of the original proposal. Correct. In fact I think I remember that Davie McP resign as manager because the then PTFC board reneged on an agreement to keep Hugh Strachan on as a coach when he retired from playing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandbank boy Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 12 hours ago, Jag said: FFS. Here we go again. Well said Jag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 16 hours ago, jlsarmy said: Think GB will be happy he’s only the general manager and not the CEO ! You didn’t have to be a PR expert to know that Dools treatment was disgusting. I’m not defending any of the last couple of Boards, they both made huge mistakes re the managers , Beattie should have changed Archie when we were struggling in the SPFL and also after relegation. Caldwell should have never been appointed at all by JLow and her directors. Time will tell whether David Beattie chased the money or it was in the best interests of our Club. Gerry is not a CEO by any recognizable measure of that role - A Board Reports to the CEO not the other way round - therefore he is a General Manager - nothing more Beattie is one shareholder with circa 4% shares - there were 55% who sold it was a joint decision - there will be many and varied reasons for selling- but it was a block Sales and if the Majority wished to sell-he others fell in line with that - do I believe it was the best thing fir the Club - No I do not believe there is a demand for Fan Ownership - No - TFE had no support - nor did the Thistle Trust - if I had a choice between the Last Board and the Consortium - I choose the Consortium - My preference was the Board under Beattie remained But we are where we are - however I have stated and will state again to all those who had a Big Anti David Beattie obsession and were telling us that Fan Ownership and our Patron Colin Weir is the Saviour of the Club - be careful what you wish for as you may just get it This is not a good thing for PTFC - and I say that as someone who has invested a lot of time - energy and a fair amount of cash over the Years and has had a long number of Years of experience in the detailed workings of the Club Lets just see what happens as to reality versus what we end up with The one thing that dominated in all my Years being involved in the Club was Cashflow and Budgets - and to those thinking its going to be Motherwell - as Norge as pointed out - No its Not TFE - the Thistle Trust pushed this - 3BC also - so lets see where we end up and with whom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 17 hours ago, Jordanhill Jag said: The CEO of a Company normally sits on the Board - He Runs the Company and the Board are answerable to him - the Chairman is normally a Non Exec Position Gerry isnt a CEO in any shape or form - he is a General Manager - he takes instructions from the Board of Directors as an employee - the PR management of Doolan wasnt Gerrys we had a PR Expert as Chairman at the time - Gerry is a Football Guy not a PR expert So Gerry is a Manager - nothing more this is on the Former Board - stop defending them The CEO is accountable to the Board , they appoint him/her . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted December 7, 2019 Report Share Posted December 7, 2019 So say the fans group screw up as they probably will, if the club needs to be sold where does the money go? Do those in the working group pocket the cash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 On 12/7/2019 at 6:03 PM, Pinhead said: So say the fans group screw up as they probably will, if the club needs to be sold where does the money go? Do those in the working group pocket the cash? Into my pocket 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted December 10, 2019 Report Share Posted December 10, 2019 No training facility is bad news for all players and coaches at the club. It's going to feel like a slap in the face to the family of Davie MacParland. It's another example of PR bullshit that the club did for 2 years totally over promising all involved. I'd have prefered the old board and training facility. It all went tits up when we named the stand for mr weir. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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