lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Someone like to tell me what 's going on? I still get confused between Al Qaeda and Ikea. Wasn't much better with MI5 and MFI. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert's Ghost Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Thinking about it - and without fully understanding the full concept at the time - Ive been a Zionist for the best part of 45 Years & my Family were probably Zionists long before that Interesting. Let's leave it at that. There's a game on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert's Ghost Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 2 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Someone like to tell me what 's going on? I still get confused between Al Qaeda and Ikea. Wasn't much better with MI5 and MFI. The lady doth protest too much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Thinking about it - and without fully understanding the full concept at the time - Ive been a Zionist for the best part of 45 Years & my Family were probably Zionists long before that Then you will know that lots of Israelis and other members of the Jewish community are anti zionists. But I guess that makes them anti semitic as well . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Here is the offending tweet …. I mean really …. Over this ?! Imagine trolling through someone’s twitter account and this all you can find …. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, javeajag said: Then you will know that lots of Israelis and other members of the Jewish community are anti zionists. But I guess that makes them anti semitic as well . I think your stretching it at “ lots” and if your an Israeli then your pretty much a Zionist by default However what has happened is that members of the Jewish Community who were previously ambivalent about Isreal are now 100% in support post Oct 7th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Jordanhill Jag said: However what has happened is that members of the Jewish Community who were previously ambivalent about Isreal are now 100% in support post Oct 7th And many are not as you well know . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert's Ghost Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Jordanhill Jag said: I think your stretching it at “ lots” and if your an Israeli then your pretty much a Zionist by default However what has happened is that members of the Jewish Community who were previously ambivalent about Isreal are now 100% in support post Oct 7th And why you do you care? And it's "Israel" FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, javeajag said: Here is the offending tweet …. I mean really …. Over this ?! Imagine trolling through someone’s twitter account and this all you can find …. I mean imagine seeing the reaction of the Jewish Community to Charlotte Churches Offensive Statement and deciding to ReTweet in Support ? As Ive stated as a private individual - fill your boots - but as a Club Director - you obey the rules which the SFA set out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Albert's Ghost said: And why you do you care? And it's "Israel" FFS. Because no part of the Thistle Support should be singled out for offensive statements by a Club Director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, javeajag said: And many are not as you well know . Many ? Really ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 13 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Someone like to tell me what 's going on? I still get confused between Al Qaeda and Ikea. Wasn't much better with MI5 and MFI. My mum used to actually call MFI at Coulston MI5 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 3 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said: I mean imagine seeing the reaction of the Jewish Community to Charlotte Churches Offensive Statement and deciding to ReTweet in Support ? As Ive stated as a private individual - fill your boots - but as a Club Director - you obey the rules which the SFA set out Eh he retweeted someone’s tweet expressing support for her and Palestine…. There is nothing offensive about that. At no point does he endorse or repeat what she said. get offended about something important like I don’t know starving Palestinians ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erty13 Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 5 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said: TJF statement on the matter below: On Sunday 1st December a formal complaint was made to both the Club Board and TJF’s Board about an historic social media “retweet” from February 2024 made by Stuart Callison, relating to the Israel-Palestine conflict. The complaint demanded Stuart’s immediate removal from both boards, alleging racism and antisemitism. The retweet in question was made by Stuart in a purely personal capacity. It is not the role of TJF to censure or censor the free expression of individuals, even our directors, on matters of conscience or to adjudicate on the validity of competing political claims, particularly in the absence of evidence of discriminatory intent. As the Club Board has already indicated in its full statement to the JT, it took appropriate legal and professional advice on the matter, and conducted an internal investigation, which found no breach of directors duties. Separately, TJF investigated whether the retweet contravened its own Social Media Policy. No breach was found on the basis of representations made. TJF’s board unanimously stands by the conclusion of its investigation that there was no racist or discriminatory intent behind Stuart’s social media content and that no directors’ duties were breached. Had we concluded otherwise, we would have asked him to resign. We would note that, in email exchanges with Stuart asking for comment on the story, the journalist at the Jewish Telegraph himself stated that the content in question “is not antisemitic”. An offer to engage in independent mediation with the complainant was made by both the Club and TJF, but this was declined. We do recognise that social media is often a highly imperfect platform on which to debate these complex and emotionally charged political issues, especially for those assuming leadership roles at Partick Thistle. At TJF’s December 2024 board meeting, all were reminded of the need for circumspection if commenting publicly on sensitive political issues, so as to minimise the risk of misinterpretation or offence, or of misattribution of an individual’s views as being those held by either TJF or the Club. We want to ensure that Firhill is a place where all fans, regardless of background, feel welcome, and where everyone focuses on what we have in common as Jags fans, rather than on political disagreements. There will be no further comment from TJF on this matter. I think this is just a case of poor judgment from someone in a position of influence in the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 (edited) 8 minutes ago, javeajag said: Eh he retweeted someone’s tweet expressing support for her and Palestine…. There is nothing offensive about that. At no point does he endorse or repeat what she said. get offended about something important like I don’t know starving Palestinians ? No - he retweeted in support because of the negative reaction to what she said - he knew that it was offensive to the Jewish Community and because of the backlash restated the offensive statement in support - big big difference from saying something stupid to making a point Read the Newspaper Article ? Edited February 28 by Jordanhill Jag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 6 minutes ago, erty13 said: I think this is just a case of poor judgment from someone in a position of influence in the club. No its making a Statement despite the Jewish Community having already stated it was offensive - big difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Just now, Jordanhill Jag said: No - he retweeted in support because of the negative reaction to what she said - he knew that it was offensive to the Jewish Community and because of the backlash restated the offensive statement in support - big big difference from saying something stupid to making a point You have no idea what he knew or thought ffs It’s like me saying this whole thing has been invented by a couple of disaffected people who don’t like fan ownership ……. this whole thing is beyond ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 27 minutes ago, Albert's Ghost said: Interesting. Let's leave it at that. There's a game on. Alas Livingston is in the Middle East. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted February 28 Author Report Share Posted February 28 14 minutes ago, javeajag said: Eh he retweeted someone’s tweet expressing support for her and Palestine…. There is nothing offensive about that. At no point does he endorse or repeat what she said. get offended about something important like I don’t know starving Palestinians ? He researched it before he retweeted his support - that research would clearly show it was highly offensive to the Jewish Community - as a Club Director - and given we have Jewish Jags Fans its unacceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 1 minute ago, Jordanhill Jag said: He researched it before he retweeted his support - that research would clearly show it was highly offensive to the Jewish Community - as a Club Director - and given we have Jewish Jags Fans its unacceptable Mate your whole approach , comments and attitude on this topic I find highly offensive. Now jog on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenski Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 Basically you're using a story borne out of tragedy for hundreds of thousands of people as part of your petty vendetta against board. Doesn't get much lower than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenski Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 The lack of moderation on this forum is frustrating at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End 2 Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Jordanhill Jag said: I think your stretching it at “ lots” and if your an Israeli then your pretty much a Zionist by default However what has happened is that members of the Jewish Community who were previously ambivalent about Isreal are now 100% in support post Oct 7th In support of ethnic cleansing and genocide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avie-man Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 I don't think the guy should be chased for his personal views and he is lucky it seems the majority of Thistle fans appear to share his view, but you are going to be watched extra carefully when you have prominence or influence. Did we not have a director removed/step down during the latter days of the Low era because there were fan objections to questionable twitter content? I suspect if there was a person in a position of power at Firhill posting about Palestinians being terorrists or whatever even if it was just a retweet there would be a backlash. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenski Posted February 28 Report Share Posted February 28 So we've got one thread where a vendetta against someone on the board, and other thread where the manager is being called Judas after he's scored a goal. This place is truly the pits. Life's too short... Someone delete my account please. I've asked via message a couple of times already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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