The Jagster Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Have it on good authority hibs are very interested ... not surprising really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jagster Posted April 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Sorry just seen the other posts looks like I'm too late with the news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodieboy Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 I'll admit that I was all for letting him go last year. To be fair, he's been different class this year. Maybe its been better training, maturity or better confidence under McNamara but he's improved significantly on previous seasons. I reckon he'll go somewhere like St Mirren or Kilmarnock next season and he deserves a crack at the SPL. If we see similar improvements in other players (O'Donnell, Balatoni, Campbell for example) then we could do a lot better next year, but that's maybe a lot to hope for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Best player we've had at Firhill in ages, and that includes Harkins. Absolute terrier of a player, with some excellent skills. I actually think that if Dundee had got away with their cheating and could have kept Harkins and Griffiths they'd have been the champions this year. I think Cairney is of similar importance to us at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 I'll admit that I was all for letting him go last year. To be fair, he's been different class this year. Maybe its been better training, maturity or better confidence under McNamara but he's improved significantly on previous seasons. I reckon he'll go somewhere like St Mirren or Kilmarnock next season and he deserves a crack at the SPL. If we see similar improvements in other players (O'Donnell, Balatoni, Campbell for example) then we could do a lot better next year, but that's maybe a lot to hope for. I'm sure the club said he had some kind of illness which lasted several months and took more months to fully recover from. Since a lot of Cairney's game depends on his energy levels he went through a period where he was only half the player he is when he's at his best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernsoul Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 I'm sure the club said he had some kind of illness which lasted several months and took more months to fully recover from. Since a lot of Cairney's game depends on his energy levels he went through a period where he was only half the player he is when he's at his best. That is true. All credit to Cairney for overcoming this, playing out his skin this season and inevitably getting an SPL move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 That is true. All credit to Cairney for overcoming this, playing out his skin this season and inevitably getting an SPL move. If (when) he goes there is no doubt that he'll be missed. Is Bannigan the natural replacement? For such a youngster he already looks like a seasoned professional. Another excellent game yesterday; Sinclair wasn't missed at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleveland steamer Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 I think that he's the best player in the division - can't see him anywere but the SPL next year. I can't even grudge him the free transfer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 I think that he's the best player in the division - can't see him anywere but the SPL next year. I can't even grudge him the free transfer. It's a pity, though. If an SPL team really wants him, the Jags should have got him to sign another contract on generous release terms. Even a 50/50 split of a 50K transfer fee (nothing for Hibs given their pending Cup Final) would have been better than zilch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 (edited) He did have a serious illness which affected him the last 2 seasons. I remember McCall said when he signed him that he would go on to bigger things so I'm not really surprised. It's just a shame that we haven't managed to achieve anything while he's been at the club. I heard that Morton had offered him terms for next season - quite simply ridiculous. Edited April 22, 2012 by ian_mac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Like everyone else I really hope Paul stays but could not blame him for going to an SPL side if he gets an offer. If Saturday is to be his last game for us at Firhill I hope there is a big crowd there, especially with it being Archie's 400th appearance for us as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 I heard that Morton had offered him terms for next season - quite simply ridiculous. Falkirk, too, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 22, 2012 Report Share Posted April 22, 2012 Falkirk, too, apparently. Oh well, maybe we'll get Willie Gibson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 He did have a serious illness which affected him the last 2 seasons. I remember McCall said when he signed him that he would go on to bigger things so I'm not really surprised. It's just a shame that we haven't managed to achieve anything while he's been at the club. I heard that Morton had offered him terms for next season - quite simply ridiculous. I think he said in the Evening Times that he wasn't interested in moving to another SFL club this summer. Whilst that can be construed as "will stay with Thistle" it more likely suggests "going to an SPL team". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 PC quoted in todays papers as wanting a step up to the SPHell, but if that doesnt materialise, he would be happy to stay at Firhill. Gives McNamara a lot of credit for getting his career back on track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 He did have a serious illness which affected him the last 2 seasons. While I don't doubt the impact illness had on him, I think there's a wee bit more to it than that. Basically, I think it was also a case of a bam playing under a bam when McCall was in charge. McNamara said at last year's EEOS 'meet the manager' night that he and Donnelly had spoken to Paul about his attitude. I think we can credit them for the more professional player we've witnessed this season. While credit must go to McCall for spotting his potential, praise must also go the the current management team for helping him through what appears to have been a bit of a rocky patch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 While I don't doubt the impact illness had on him, I think there's a wee bit more to it than that. Basically, I think it was also a case of a bam playing under a bam when McCall was in charge Correct. He was left out of the squad on a few occassions because of his attitude. Was out on the bevvy a lot and eating shite before matchdays and training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) While I don't doubt the impact illness had on him, I think there's a wee bit more to it than that. Basically, I think it was also a case of a bam playing under a bam when McCall was in charge. McNamara said at last year's EEOS 'meet the manager' night that he and Donnelly had spoken to Paul about his attitude. I think we can credit them for the more professional player we've witnessed this season. While credit must go to McCall for spotting his potential, praise must also go the the current management team for helping him through what appears to have been a bit of a rocky patch. Didn't Stephen Dobbie have a similar wayward attitude for a while and his career took a momentary tumble? I mind that he was one McCall's famous five targets a few seasons back. Not that we had any chance of getting Dobbie or indeed the other four but had it all come about Stephen would have been joining up with the aforementioned Willie Gibson & Richie Hart. Man management put to the test methinks.. Edited April 23, 2012 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Murray Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Didn't Stephen Dobbie have a similar wayward attitude for a while and his career took a momentary tumble? I mind that he was one McCall's famous five targets a few seasons back. Not that we had any chance of getting Dobbie or indeed the other four but had it all come about Stephen would have been joining up with the aforementioned Willie Gibson & Richie Hart. Man management put to the test methinks.. Dobbie was ready to sign for us but the board would not sanction his wages. David Beattie said it was his biggest regret not to step in and pay his wages himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernsoul Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) Dobbie was ready to sign for us but the board would not sanction his wages. David Beattie said it was his biggest regret not to step in and pay his wages himself. Not as bad as the old guard who refused to pay Motherwell £500 per week for John Sutton, when we were going for the title with St Johnstone and in badly of need of a striker. We ended up with Lucas Akins. Another great decision by the Cowan, Hughes, Prentice shambolic regime. Edited April 23, 2012 by northernsoul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Not as bad as the old guard who refused to pay Motherwell £500 per week for John Sutton, when we were going for the title with St Johnstone and in badly of need of a striker. We ended up with Lucas Akins. Another great decision by the Cowan, Hughes, Prentice shambolic regime. Pretty sure that isn't what happened at all. Sutton was at Wycombe, but available for transfer. Both us and Motherwell wanted him, and he went to Motherwell, who were obviously in the SPL. I only remember this as it has been brought up a few times on here over the years and just isn't true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernsoul Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Pretty sure that isn't what happened at all. Sutton was at Wycombe, but available for transfer. Both us and Motherwell wanted him, and he went to Motherwell, who were obviously in the SPL. I only remember this as it has been brought up a few times on here over the years and just isn't true. Nope, he was a Motherwell player at the time, not getting much game time, or out of the first team picture as I recall. We had the opportunity to take on loan for the remainder of the season and the board wouldn't show the slightest bit of ambition and pay £500 a week for 3/4 months. It's 100% true. And to think there was a board member at that time taking money out the Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1971 Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Nope, he was a Motherwell player at the time, not getting much game time, or out of the first team picture as I recall. We had the opportunity to take on loan for the remainder of the season and the board wouldn't show the slightest bit of ambition and pay £500 a week for 3/4 months. It's 100% true. And to think there was a board member at that time taking money out the Club. Wikipedia tells me he scored 12 goals in over 30 games that season (2008/09). I'm not sure if that amounts to being out of the first-team picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Nope, he was a Motherwell player at the time, not getting much game time, or out of the first team picture as I recall. We had the opportunity to take on loan for the remainder of the season and the board wouldn't show the slightest bit of ambition and pay £500 a week for 3/4 months. It's 100% true. And to think there was a board member at that time taking money out the Club. Sutton was actually on £1800 at Motherwell but McGhee was prepared to give us him for £500. The board said we couldn't do it and we got Akins instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernsoul Posted April 23, 2012 Report Share Posted April 23, 2012 Wikipedia tells me he scored 12 goals in over 30 games that season (2008/09). I'm not sure if that amounts to being out of the first-team picture. A portion of those appearances and I'm presuming goals will have occured when we didn't take up Motherwell's offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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