Members Willjag Posted March 29, 2013 Members Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 If it's not just paper talk and he has came out and said that about Paton, I'm pretty sure the Club would have grounds for complaint to the SFA who in turn could fine him and hit him in the pocket again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 If it's not just paper talk and he has came out and said that about Paton, I'm pretty sure the Club would have grounds for complaint to the SFA who in turn could fine him and hit him in the pocket again. Â Isn't Paton out of contract in the summer? You can tap up all you like if it's for a PCA IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 If it's not just paper talk and he has came out and said that about Paton, I'm pretty sure the Club would have grounds for complaint to the SFA who in turn could fine him and hit him in the pocket again. Â Unfortunately not sure he's done anything wrong. As he's in last 6 months of contract he's free to talk to other clubs. Â If a club or an agent choose to make that public knowledge all it is doing creating an 'auction' for a player so in effect he is the winner. Â Not sure who chose to make it public in this case- DU or agent- but McNamara obviously aware of other interest & through the media is telling PP to take it or leave it! Â For what it's worth, I think we chose to make the JM breach of contract issue public knowledge because he was quoted about Paton in press. These things tend to be done 'professionally' but the club have perhaps learned that's not the way JM operates. Â I also know of rumblings of discontent up Tannadice way that Thompson/McNamara are selling up their better players & replacing them with a 1st Div side. Â All the more reason for players to be wary of following JM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I cannot believe the abuse McNamara is taking ok I for one was disappointed when he and Sid left however he did sign an extension to his deal that David Beattie publically commented on as safeguarding both Jackie and the club if he ever moved on I'm pretty sure it would have been watertight and the club would have made sure that (if and when) he moved on they would get the compensation that there due I wish we could just move on and support Archie and the team as we enter this crucial period Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 (edited) ...safeguarding both Jackie and the club if he ever moved on I'm pretty sure it would have been watertight and the club would have made sure that (if and when) he moved on they would get the compensation that there due  Think you're missing point. Reason he's getting abuse is that him & DU have not kept their end of bargain re compensation & that was why they resigned & are now being sued for breach of contract.  We knew that JM would prob go when a perceived bigger club came in & would've gone with the blessing of most but the guy walked out.  Contrast that to Brown Shoes at Falkirk (then). That was DUs 1st choice but they couldn't agree compo payments, like they couldn't with us. Did Pressley resign? No. He knew there would be other opportunities & wanted to make sure Falkirk were treated correctly.  A season like his first full season here & McNamara will be looking for a new job. That's not sour grapes that's a fact.  Then other clubs will be wary of him as he now has a reputation for walking out when things are good. That's how game works I'm afraid. Edited March 29, 2013 by Trotter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I think you should be congratulated on the progress you've made in speaking our Earthly language. Â Thank you Juggernaut. It's lemon squeezy. Also not coming from Fife or Greenock, help it does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWM Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Jackie is only loyal to one thing. His already massively fat wallet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Have Falkirk received the money from Coventry yet. If Pressleys wanted to make sure Falkirk would be payed, he shouldn't have gone to a club that wa going into administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Have Falkirk received the money from Coventry yet. If Pressleys wanted to make sure Falkirk would be payed, he shouldn't have gone to a club that wa going into administration.  Pretty sure they have as they wanted the money from DU up front & Coventry pulling a fast one with one of the holding companies in administration rather than the football club- still cost them 10 points tho!!  From what I understand think the whole idea behind their administration was to renegotiate the stadium deal which was costing them £000s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Pretty sure they have as they wanted the money from DU up front & Coventry pulling a fast one with one of the holding companies in administration rather than the football club- still cost them 10 points tho!!  From what I understand think the whole idea behind their administration was to renegotiate the stadium deal which was costing them £000s.  The subsidiary that was placed in administration owned the Football League's golden share, i.e. the membership, hence the 10 point deduction. Coventry would have received compensation from Huddersfield for Mark Robins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool Jags Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Â Â If the Jags win the court case, then he will have to stump up the legal costs, no? Â Yes, I'm sure that's true, but it's the 'if' factor that can be the deterrent: lawyers will give you a 'x out of ten' chance of winning, but should you lose, it'll cost Y. At that point, I imagine, the prospective litigant retreats momentarily to consider their options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Wouldn't be surprised if its settled out of court for half the figure. Which is a pity, but the reality of these sort of cases. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Wouldn't be surprised if its settled out of court for half the figure. Which is a pity, but the reality of these sort of cases. Damn! If only we still had a lawyer for a chairman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Jessie McWho? A sad footnote coupled with his early departure has soured his reputation with a lot of Thistle fans. Personally I think we got lucky as Archie is the man to lead us to the promised land of the SPL Â Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Wouldn't be surprised if its settled out of court for half the figure. Which is a pity, but the reality of these sort of cases. Â Not so sure. Â If there is a figure stipulated in his contract, which we all believe there is according to interviews JM & the club did when new deals were signed, then why settle for less? Â I get the impression it's one of these things like trying to claim against someone else's insurance where they drag it out in the hope that something has not been done properly. Â I would imagine that this BoD aren't stupid & know they're on a winner- at least I'm hoping that's the case. Â If it's settled out of court it'll be on Thistle's terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantB Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 Wouldn't be surprised if its settled out of court for half the figure. Which is a pity, but the reality of these sort of cases. Â Really hope this isn't the case but if it is, it really shows McNamara up for his true colours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Did they got the money upfront, JJ? Otherwise Falkirk will be getting the customary 5p in the £ My understanding is that money came from the Coventry Company who pays the wages - going into admin for the Holding Company was always in the plans - it was delayed to see if they could get a play off spot - when they fell behind the pack the plug was pulled - good luck to him not everyones Cup of tea but spoke very well during the Summer.and has brought a fair number of young players through who Falkirk have sold on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 Wouldn't be surprised if its settled out of court for half the figure. Which is a pity, but the reality of these sort of cases. If this is the case then other teams should be aware that Dundee United cannot be relied upon to pay fees. For example Thickasthieves informed us that O Donnell could be valued at £80,000. Hopefully we can keep O Donnell anyway but if not then would Dundee United only likely to pay £40,000 then surely our club is looking to avoid any signings to that particular team. As mentioned earlier thought if we got the £80,000 owed then could get the likes of O Donnell on new contracts. Maybe this is what Jackie and Dundee United want though us financially not to be able to offer new contracts. Extremely poor show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paralytic thistle Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 If this is the case then other teams should be aware that Dundee United cannot be relied upon to pay fees. For example Thickasthieves informed us that O Donnell could be valued at £80,000. Hopefully we can keep O Donnell anyway but if not then would Dundee United only likely to pay £40,000 then surely our club is looking to avoid any signings to that particular team. As mentioned earlier thought if we got the £80,000 owed then could get the likes of O Donnell on new contracts. Maybe this is what Jackie and Dundee United want though us financially not to be able to offer new contracts. Extremely poor show  Thistle not entitled to any compensation from Dundee United, it's the previous manager that has to recompense the Jags, due to him resigning while under contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggy1967 Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 (edited) I would see them in court ! Â The embarrassment levels would be too much for them. Â Our Ex manager. . . Snake of the highest order !! Edited March 31, 2013 by Jaggy1967 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigthepict Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 I see St Johnstone just scored a third minute of injury equaliser against Dungdee Utd to grab a massive point. Saints clinch a top 6 spot and Utd instead of going into the driving seat now have to beat Aberdeen as well as hoping Kili don't win any of their last 2. Â Smashing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantB Posted April 1, 2013 Report Share Posted April 1, 2013 Nice to see the discipline problem we had at Firhill buggered off up to Tannadice at the same time as our former management team. Â Contrast that with how Archie's team have performed..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert's Ghost Posted April 2, 2013 Report Share Posted April 2, 2013 Jackie was sick as a parrot at the end last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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