The Cup Posted January 2, 2014 Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 Archie deserves at least this and next even if we are relegated but he isn't without some blame for our position. I don't think he has judged well enough which players would be good enough for the Premiership. Wages for guys like Forbes, Kerr, Baird and possibly a few more could have been better utilised IMO. Also I think that he has missed the boat with not using more of his budget in the summer. WIth Ross County and Killie spending money to improve their squads our signing(s) could effectively be cancelled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted January 2, 2014 Members Report Share Posted January 2, 2014 At the end of last season, I was delighted to hear Forbes was signing on again and hoped his technical ability would be better suited to this Division where he had a little more time. It hasn't worked out unfortunately. Had we got Osbourne sooner, I don't think Kerr would have been signed, but we did need someone with SPL experience, I just don't think Archie has judged how much Kerr's form has dropped over the last couple of years. Baird on a 2 year deal looks like a bad deal as well though and as long as Doolan and Taylor are fit, I don't see him getting a sniff of a start. Wouldn't be surprised to see him move on actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewarty Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Garscube Road End hit the nail on the head earlier: the wage bill of a club has been shown to be the most accurate predictor of its ultimate league position. In this respect Archie has the team performing neither above nor below expectations. Yes, he has made mistakes and we should be concerned about our current form, but he's a young guy whom I hope will learn from his errors. I still believe he has the potential to become an excellent manager. With a little patience and support hopefully we will be beneficiaries of his development. This is not to say he's results-proof; more that, on balance, sticking with him is the best option for the moment. There aren't many Jose Mourinho's out there waiting to take over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proudjag Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Have to take this opportunity to say I was wrong in my knee jerk reaction last week. Fair play to Archie he appeared to have acted on Wednesday and I witnessed for myself the change today. Was great to see a plan b and hopefully we push on this month. First signing so far so good so maybe he has genuinely learned from his mistakes re some signings in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankJag Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 maybe he has genuinely learned from his mistakes re some signings in the summer. Are we the only team in the SPFL to have signed some players that haven't worked out as hoped? Of course the reality is that every club signs some good fits and some not so good. Archie is no different to others and it's to be expected that some of his deals this month will work out but sadly some won't. Maybe as fans we could accept that and stop putting unnecessary pressure on our own manager? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Edmonds Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Failure to win today would've been tragic, although the three points are definitely valuable. There's still a lot of work to be done over the next few weeks to put right the form of the last couple of months, but I'm encouraged by the way we set out in the second half more than anything as it suggested that Archibald has learned his lesson from allowing leads against other teams to slip and ensuring that there was no defensive collapse like the one we saw against Motherwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 Are we the only team in the SPFL to have signed some players that haven't worked out as hoped? Of course the reality is that every club signs some good fits and some not so good. Archie is no different to others and it's to be expected that some of his deals this month will work out but sadly some won't. Maybe as fans we could accept that and stop putting unnecessary pressure on our own manager? St Mirren have got rid of 5 players they signed during the summer. If only we could pap Kerr and Baird onto a couple of suckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Earl of Hathaway Posted January 5, 2014 Report Share Posted January 5, 2014 St Mirren have got rid of 5 players they signed during the summer. If only we could pap Kerr and Baird onto a couple of suckers. Morton must be looking for a couple of players to get them out of their current situation.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 If only we could pap Kerr and Baird onto a couple of suckers. Morton must be looking for a couple of players to get them out of their current situation.... kerr and baird would be perfect for morton, and would get them out their current situation and into the seaside league with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernsoul Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 So if Baird and Kerr do leave, whether in January or summer who will be the next scapegoats? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 With Piccolo appearing to be a (deserved) first name in central defence now, could Archie and Shaggy's master stroke have been putting Muirhead just in front of them for extra protection? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurph Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 This thread is a great reminder to me why I seldom visit this forum. ******* hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Scimmia Rossa Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 What Smurph said. x 100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 (edited) Have to take this opportunity to say I was wrong in my knee jerk reaction last week. Fair play to Archie he appeared to have acted on Wednesday and I witnessed for myself the change today. Was great to see a plan b and hopefully we push on this month. First signing so far so good so maybe he has genuinely learned from his mistakes re some signings in the summer. Javejag has went very quiet! The time to judge Archie will be at the end of the season and even if we do go down I will be backing him to get us straight back up, even with Sevco and Hearts in the league!, Edited January 6, 2014 by Lindau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistlenowthistleforever Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I won't be changing my opinion just yet we only bet a terrible Hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 6, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Javejag has went very quiet! The time to judge Archie will be at the end of the season and even if we do go down I will be backing him to get us straight back up, even with Sevco and Hearts in the league!, As I indicated I stopped posting after the personal abuse I recieved .... Saturday was a good result if not our best performance but it's just one win .... Let's see what happens next .... If would be nice to at least get one home win ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 As I indicated I stopped posting after the personal abuse I recieved .... Saturday was a good result if not our best performance but it's just one win .... Let's see what happens next .... If would be nice to at least get one home win ! Bit childish but thats up to you. Would hardly call it personal abuse...lets just say a differing of opinions. Will agree with your last statement, At the end of the day we are all jags fans and should all be aiming for the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wee col Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I think some people just want thistle to fail, Just to say I TOLD YOU SO monthejags 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 I won't be changing my opinion just yet we only bet a terrible Hearts The same hearts team we couldn't beat at home!! Unbeaten against Hearts, Caley, Hibs and Ross county so far and unlucky not to have taken not to be the same with Killie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veejag Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Unbeaten against Hibs? I knew that Doolan miss was a nightmare!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 The same hearts team we couldn't beat at home!! Unbeaten against Hearts, Caley, Hibs and Ross county so far and unlucky not to have taken not to be the same with Killie Afraid not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted January 6, 2014 Report Share Posted January 6, 2014 Afraid not! Forgot the scored at Firhill I'll go stand in the corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted January 9, 2014 Report Share Posted January 9, 2014 http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/partick-thistle/scott-paterson-hurdling-hearts-can-jumpstart-jags-season-147706n.23130919 I'm on my phone so can't post proper link but it's Shaggie's column. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Serious questions about Archie again today I'm not sure what training our defence actually do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted January 11, 2014 Report Share Posted January 11, 2014 Serious questions about Archie again today I'm not sure what training our defence actually do I'm not sure it's to do with training. They're not up to this level. We need a centre half brought in during these next few weeks or we're going to struggle. Our best Centre Half, imo, Muirhead is half fit & playing in midfield. Neither Piccolo or Balatoni good enough for this league for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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