jlsarmy Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, Semi Nurainen said: For what it's worth, I saw Coulibaly a number of times in the reserves; even at that level (paying against 16-17 year olds) he was distinctly underwhelming. He wouldn't have been one of the first names out of the hat, for the reserves, far less for the first eleven. Saw him as well in the reserves and he was totally underwhelming but usually he was playing with the kids rather than experienced players. Usually find when first team players play in the reserves it’s to get fitness , they usually go through the motions . Bottom line is Gary Caldwell couldn’t manage Souleymane Coulibaye for whatever reason , rather than the ability of the player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, Semi Nurainen said: For what it's worth, I saw Coulibaly a number of times in the reserves; even at that level (paying against 16-17 year olds) he was distinctly underwhelming. He wouldn't have been one of the first names out of the hat, for the reserves, far less for the first eleven. Too true. You could see traces of his ability and positional awareness. Unfortunately that positional awareness didn't relate to much of area. Here's more re his next venture. Didn't realise that Danny Baker and Nick Clegg were into North African football https://www.kingfut.com/2019/05/26/etoile-coulibaly-al-ahly-player-future/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 55 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Bottom line is Gary Caldwell couldn’t manage Souleymane Coulibaye for whatever reason , rather than the ability of the player. Bullcrap. I'm delighted that he's now somebody else's problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dark Passenger said: Bullcrap. I'm delighted that he's now somebody else's problem. Do you really believe everything that Caldwell says ? Seriously ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 hour ago, jlsarmy said: Saw him as well in the reserves and he was totally underwhelming but usually he was playing with the kids rather than experienced players. Usually find when first team players play in the reserves it’s to get fitness , they usually go through the motions . Bottom line is Gary Caldwell couldn’t manage Souleymane Coulibaye for whatever reason , rather than the ability of the player. Bottom line is Coulliaby has previous for being a problem at a club and you seem keen to blame Caldwell for everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Do you really believe everything that Caldwell says ? Seriously ? Ask the jags players such as Christie Elliott what they thought of Coulliaby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Do you really believe everything that Caldwell says ? Seriously ? Coulibaly was unfit and had an attitude problem. His spell at Kilmarnock really was an aberration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dark Passenger said: Coulibaly was unfit and had an attitude problem. His spell at Kilmarnock really was an aberration. Golden boot winner at a World Cup ? Was that an aberration, should have been given a chance , if he didn’t cut it fair enough, but he played at a much higher level in Scotland and did fine . When you manage football players, you do exactly that , maybe work them harder on the training ground or maybe change their attitude to things , motivation techniques, every player is different and that’s where a good manager comes in . Even in his short spell abroad he scored 6 in 12 games , he’s not the first player not to have settled in a different country with a different culture. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Bottom line is Coulliaby has previous for being a problem at a club and you seem keen to blame Caldwell for everything We don’t know the full facts on his spell in Egypt I take it you’ve got all the facts ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Golden boot winner at a World Cup ? A golden boot winner at an U-17 World Championship eight years ago... Dig out the article I posted recently... 'concerns about his fitness and state of mind' "not at the required...physical level" He brought that baggage with him to Thistle. And he *was* given a chance - he wasn't binned with Mutombo, Storer, Ntambwe, etc - and didn't take it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: We don’t know the full facts on his spell in Egypt I take it you’ve got all the facts ? really just post ....I hate Caldwell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 The most disappointing Thistle player of all time in terms of anticipation versus delivery. Discuss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, Dark Passenger said: A golden boot winner at an U-17 World Championship eight years ago... Dig out the article I posted recently... 'concerns about his fitness and state of mind' "not at the required...physical level" He brought that baggage with him to Thistle. And he *was* given a chance - he wasn't binned with Mutombo, Storer, Ntambwe, etc - and didn't take it. No they played, he wasn’t given enough time on the pitch, one rule for some and not others , you really telling me Harkins is fit ? for example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, Dark Passenger said: A golden boot winner at an U-17 World Championship eight years ago... Dig out the article I posted recently... 'concerns about his fitness and state of mind' "not at the required...physical level" He brought that baggage with him to Thistle. And he *was* given a chance - he wasn't binned with Mutombo, Storer, Ntambwe, etc - and didn't take it. Where can I find that article or is it your article? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: No they played, he wasn’t given enough time on the pitch, one rule for some and not others , you really telling me Harkins is fit ? for example Check the stats. Coulibaly got more game time under Caldwell than Storer. A little less than Mutombo and Ntambwe, but he was given more time to prove himself than both of them and didn't. Edited May 27, 2019 by Dark Passenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: ...or is it your article? wut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Dark Passenger said: Check the stats. Coulibaly got more game time under Caldwell than Storer. A little less than Mutombo and Ntambwe, but he was given more time to prove himself than both of them and didn't. He got 82 mins all season, is that enough time to prove yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 25 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: No they played, he wasn’t given enough time on the pitch, one rule for some and not others , you really telling me Harkins is fit ? for example Not one of us had said we are impressed with Harkins fitness don’t know the link to Coulliaby other than another year hate Caldwell post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That 1 jags fan Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 23 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Where can I find that article or is it your article? The meet the manager night episode 4 if you don’t want to go through articles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, That 1 jags fan said: The meet the manager night episode 4 if you don’t want to go through articles. Do you know what , I was at Dools race night and the people , players , sponsors etc are a lot more believable than Gary Caldwell in how he does things . Think it’s the persona he wants to put out there, the reality in my opinion is totally different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: Not one of us had said we are impressed with Harkins fitness don’t know the link to Coulliaby other than another year hate Caldwell post Coulibaye’s fitness was mentioned as a reason he didn’t get game time ,can you tell me as a comparison the fitness level of Harkins and he seems to be involved most weeks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Coulibaye’s fitness was mentioned as a reason he didn’t get game time ,can you tell me as a comparison the fitness level of Harkins and he seems to be involved most weeks . I haven’t seen a poster who thinks Harkins fitness is acceptable. I’m presuming Harkins didn’t turn up late for training etc or maybe have an attitude problem. I wouldn’t have kept Harkins on tbh either and think this was a poor signing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 If he was that good why did he fail miserably in the reserves as a few have pointed out? If he was using it as his own personal training regime clearly his attitude was all wrong. Additionally if he was that good why did no SPL team go for him? Clearly he was a busted flush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: I haven’t seen a poster who thinks Harkins fitness is acceptable. I’m presuming Harkins didn’t turn up late for training etc or maybe have an attitude problem. I wouldn’t have kept Harkins on tbh either and think this was a poor signing Going back how would Caldwell have dealt with a Chic Charnley or an Alan Dinnie . Different times I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted May 27, 2019 Report Share Posted May 27, 2019 1 minute ago, dl1971 said: If he was that good why did he fail miserably in the reserves as a few have pointed out? If he was using it as his own personal training regime clearly his attitude was all wrong. Additionally if he was that good why did no SPL team go for him? Clearly he was a busted flush. We’ll never know if he was a busted flush or not , he was always going to find it hard to get a team because of the circumstances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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