ClydebankJag Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 The Record has named us as one of the 5. Lets hope they are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Can you post a link, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) The Record has named us as one of the 5. Lets hope they are wrong. Lets hope they are wrong Big time Edited July 14, 2012 by Third Lanark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) I've not read it myself but was told they also named Brechin as 1 of the 5 when Brechin have released a statement detailing their votes and stating they said no to div 1. Edited July 14, 2012 by Pie Of The Month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionel J. Botch Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 If true, the BOD have made a monumental error. Not only alienate your own fans, but I a pretty sure many away fans will boycott Firhill for years to come in protest. Surely the club must have gauged the feeling of other clubs and realised that a yes vote was a non starter. Other clubs did not want it and the fans did not want it. What, other than the fact you are a massive Rangers fan and want the reincarnation of Rangers at the top ASAP can be a possible justification for ignoring your customers and others in your market place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 The club will have to issue a response if we've been named as a yes voter. No two ways about it. Link would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Gilmour Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 No it doesn't. Having read all the online articles in today's Record, this is the only reference to Thistle I can see, which seems to indicate we voted No - "Partick Thistle chairman David Beattie backed (Livingston chairman) McDougall’s assessment. He said: “We’re still of the opinion league reconstruction and financial redistribution should be on the agenda, but as one body of 42 clubs driving it forward. “The integrity of the game has been upheld by the SFL’s decision on Rangers. It was a very brave decision but a good one and the fans will be extremely happy. The whole financial model of Scottish football now has to be looked at again.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 No it doesn't. Having read all the online articles in today's Record, this is the only reference to Thistle I can see, which seems to indicate we voted No - "Partick Thistle chairman David Beattie backed (Livingston chairman) McDougall’s assessment. He said: “We’re still of the opinion league reconstruction and financial redistribution should be on the agenda, but as one body of 42 clubs driving it forward. “The integrity of the game has been upheld by the SFL’s decision on Rangers. It was a very brave decision but a good one and the fans will be extremely happy. The whole financial model of Scottish football now has to be looked at again.” Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 (edited) I've not read it myself but was told they also named Brechin as 1 of the 5 when Brechin have released a statement detailing their votes and stating they said no to div 1. Latest statement on Brechin City's website "Following a detailed and informative meeting of all 30 SFL clubs at Hampden today, we voted as follows ; "On Resolution 1 which allowed Rangers to join the SFL we voted Yes. "On Resolution 2 which would have allowed Rangers to be parachuted into Division 1 we voted No. "As we agreed with our members at our AGM on Wednesday, we decided that we would only agree to Rangers joining Division 1 if we were completely satisfied that the reconstruction and merging of the leagues as well as the other conditions outlined in the heads of terms could be guaranteed. As such an undertaking could not be given, we felt unable to support Resolution 2. "As with all other SFL clubs, we now await with interest and a certain amount of trepidation, the repercussions of today's decision." Edited July 14, 2012 by kni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClydebankJag Posted July 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Page 4 of the paper in an article titled "2 women, 28 men, 1 vote" names us as 1 of the 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig-W Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 The club HAVE to understand just how important it is to come out immediately and tell us which way they voted. That purposefully vague statement yesterday is no where near enough. **** I did not want to open up this forum this morning and see a thread like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Just found this article that quotes DB avourably (I think) http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/football/sfl/2012/07/14/livingston-chief-gordon-mcdougall-sfa-must-rubber-stamp-rangers-move-into-division-three-86908-23908300/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Traveller Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Not conclusive proof of anything, but print Record definitely names us on page 4 as was said above: "It's understood Falkirk, Partick Thistle, Hamilton, Queen of the South and Brechin were the clubs who voted against." If that's incorrect, the club have to respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance Gilmour Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 "we understand" is what it says. The Record also "understands" Brechin voted Yes, but they clearly voted No. Nothing definitive I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Yup. We were quick to call on Mr Anwar to make retraction, same applies here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 "we understand" is what it says. The Record also "understands" Brechin voted Yes, but they clearly voted No. Nothing definitive I guess. Which is why the club has to respond. And none of this 'speculation and conjecture' bullsh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellow Traveller Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 A mistakenly reported yes is financially damaging to the business and we're all about the business. So get it corrected if it isn't true. And I'll try not to be worried by Mr Beattie's track record of commenting in the press in a way that covers his tracks after a vote. (See JJ's removal from the club board for a very similar pattern of comments to the ones credited to him yesterday.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 The Record is a total rag. The print retractions all the time. They are just good at hiding them. Personally I don't think the club has voted for Division 1. They previously said Newco in Div 1 was unacceptable in the current format which we are still in. However even if they have voted for Division 1 it now won't stop me from going. Beattie is a **** for it but he right thing has been done by the other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 A mistakenly reported yes is financially damaging to the business and we're all about the business. So get it corrected if it isn't true. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/YbF9u.jpg Article is by Gordon Parks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 http://i.imgur.com/YbF9u.jpg Article is by Gordon Parks. The journo who interviewed Beattie a few weeks back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Heron Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Heading off on holiday, but Maxi has an e-mail from me confirming that if we voted against or are unwilling to make a statement how we voted then I want my season ticket money refunded. Not willing to be associated with or financially assist the apparently duplicitous people at the helm of the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennythistle Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 "we understand" is what it says. The Record also "understands" Brechin voted Yes, but they clearly voted No. Nothing definitive I guess. Hi Lance. I agree the record report is nothing but speculative. Sadly so is our statement. Is a clear statement from the club too much to ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig-W Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 Of course the Record is a complete rag not worth wiping your backside with, but I just want a firm answer instead of this confusion, obfuscation and bewilderment. Any decisions made by any fan can only be made with full possession of the facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alison Posted July 14, 2012 Report Share Posted July 14, 2012 "we understand" is what it says. The Record also "understands" Brechin voted Yes, but they clearly voted No. Nothing definitive I guess. Nothing definitive, but damaging nonetheless. If this is false the board needs to act immediately, as it will impact on home and away crowds for the coming season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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