ThickAsThieves Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/kilmarnock-scottish-professional-football-league-3449000 What's your thoughts on this? Wonder how long it'll take to investigate and punish, if it turns out to be legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Very stupid thing to do and even more stupid to leak it. There is actually a part of me cringing that relegation and play-off could be decided by points deductions though, but another part saying they had it coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Jag Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 So, there's a St Mirren fan in the Killie office, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Surely they will just fine them and not apply a football penalty? After all it happened in the past and they can't apply punishments retrospectively, can they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Keith Jackson wrote the article. Close the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted April 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Surely they will just fine them and not apply a football penalty? After all it happened in the past and they can't apply punishments retrospectively, can they? Why not? If they have done this, they have broken rules and should face the punishment, whatever that may be. For what it's worth, I don't think there will be much in this. Seems to be the word of an ex-employee with an axe to grind. They might have done it, but I don't see how it could really be proved 100% so I suspect it'll be thrown out. Plus the SFA take ages to investigate things so it'll probably be decided on in a few months time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 They lost the game 3-0. Absolutely no benefit. Probably an innocent error. Points deduction would be ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Hard to see them getting a points deduction at this stage of the season when things are so tight at the bottom. But, forging a signature is pretty serious. I reckon they might cop out of this by giving them a deferred points deduction for next season. Remember - the only rule set in stone is the one that allows them to make things up as they go along. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rid Skwerr Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 They lost the game 3-0. Absolutely no benefit. Probably an innocent error. On the face of it that's true, but no way is forging a signature an innocent action. It may not matter much, but it was a deliberate act by the club. In addition, although they lost the game it may be that the player contributed to keeping the score down and goal difference could well be crucial in the relegation battle. Don't expect any meaningful action from the SPFL, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hosie Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Very difficult, unless the player himself came out and says he never signed the registration form, to prove but it is, IF true, a very serious offence and utterly irrelevant that they lost the match. This wasn't a simple adminstrative error, though the original missing signature almost certainly would have been, this would have been a deliberate act designed to give themselves an advantage. As I said, near impossible to prove but if it were then strongest possible sanction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hosie Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Meant to add, did any Killie player make their debut in that match? If not it would seem likely that they had been playing an improperly registered player for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Allegedly someone at Cappielow forged Novo's clawprint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hosie Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 The more I think about this,it can't possibly be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 The more I think about this,it can't possibly be true. Killie fans on PnB saying it's the work of a huffy ex member of staff with an axe to grind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 The more I read about it the less there seems to be in it. However I did think of this, and if you think the SPFL or it's predecessors made things up as they went along... https://uk.eurosport...ked-points.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billko Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Result will be over turned and Celtic awarded a 3-0 win That will teach them a lesson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Maybe they are looking for a way to save HIbs if there freefall continues. They won,t give a toss about the Jags, St Midden and Ross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Wragg Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Result will be over turned and Celtic awarded a 3-0 win That will teach them a lesson Eh !! The 'tic DID win 3-0 !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Eh !! The 'tic DID win 3-0 !!! Hmmmm. Two whoooshes in one thread? No you weren't the other one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted April 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Gies a break Mr B, it was early morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerjag Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 hope they get points deduction but they shouldnt. Imagine it happened to us ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 If it was prior to the 4-0 game on the 29th of January I could understand a signature being forged for a new player and then that player may have helped contribute to points won in subsequent games (Maximum of 8 points) when actuaslly not registered, but the 3-0 game was in March surely all players were registered then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 If it was prior to the 4-0 game on the 29th of January I could understand a signature being forged for a new player and then that player may have helped contribute to points won in subsequent games (Maximum of 8 points) when actuaslly not registered, but the 3-0 game was in March surely all players were registered then Spot on! Kilmarnock signed Maksimenko, Eremenko and Karlsson in the last week of the January window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billko Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 Eh !! The 'tic DID win 3-0 !!! I know, i was having a wee joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted April 24, 2014 Report Share Posted April 24, 2014 (edited) I've just read some of the blogs written by the witness of the forged document. Details seem very strange as has been stated, however the thing I'm thinking is that if I wrote about my employer and colleagues in such a manner I would be sacked for breaching the company's social media policy. She felt that a colleague reporting what she had written on her blog to her manager was an invasion of her privacy... it's a social media profile, not a diary with a lock on it. Edited to add. There could be some merit in the story itself, just because the woman appears to have grievance with the club it doesn't mean she's making it up. I suspect however, that any end result would punish the staff involved rather than the club's points total, and that's probably right, unless of course the club board were aware of such a policy. Edited April 24, 2014 by twinny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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