Stats Watch

[The Cup]

I have a mate that was nicknamed Geloshi cause he was so shit in goals.

[Dick Dastardly]

Back to the stats and I am amazed that Banzo isnot in the bad boys leaders. Jordan and Dan must go under the radar as I don't relate them to being particularly dirty players, but maybe it is the nature of the position that they play.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

^ With regards to Half Man Half Tattoo, his record is especially bad given it represents a card every 2 games - twice as big a ratio as Banzo.

 

Onto tomorrow's game...

 

So, what is with us and these tattie pickers? Our poor record in recent decades can be highlighted in so many different ways it's almost embarrassing.

 

In all League history, Thistle have never beaten St Johnstone in Perth in the second tier. Played 15, won hee-haw. Cormack, Rooney, Lamont, Lambie, MacLeod, Whyte & Britton, Campbell, McCall – all tried, all failed. Unbelievable.

 

Our all-time biggest victory in Perth? An underwhelming 2 goal margin.

 

Home or away, we’ve only had 3 wins against St Johnstone in the last 31 games – and one of them was on penalties! Over the last few decades, our historical record vs the Perth side has been totally turned on its’ head.

 

We are currently 8 games without a win against them, and 15 games without a win in Perth.

 

The only crumb of comfort is that, despite it all, our away record in the Top Flight is still in touch with some degree of respectability.

 

Dools is doing his bit to get us back on track. He’s been asked twice and has never failed to score at McDiarmid in the Premiership. Cheekily, brilliantly, defiantly – Archie’s Jags are unbeaten in Perth!

 

However, it’s now more than 21 years since Albert, Roddy and Gerry scored the goals which gave us that cracking 3-1 victory in the Premier League – to date our only victory at McDiarmid Park in 20 visits.

 

Happy 21st?

 

 

Jags v Saints stats ˅

 

 

 

 

Last 10 @ McDiarmid Park:

29.03.2014 St Johnstone [a] D1-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 32)

28.09.2013 St Johnstone [a] D1-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 8)

09.02.2011 St Johnstone [a] L0-2 (Scottish Cup 5th Round)

04.04.2009 St Johnstone [a] D1-1 (SFL First Division - game 31)

25.10.2008 St Johnstone [a] L0-3 (SFL First Division - game 11)

05.01.2008 St Johnstone [a] L0-2 (SFL First Division - game 21)

15.09.2007 St Johnstone [a] L1-2 (SFL First Division - game 6)

10.03.2007 St Johnstone [a] L0-2 (SFL First Division - game 27)

04.11.2006 St Johnstone [a] L0-2 (SFL First Division - game 12)

22.01.2005 St Johnstone [a] D1-1 (SFL First Division - game 24)

 

 

Biggest margin of victory in Perth:

09.02.1929 St Johnstone [a] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 25)

12.09.1936 St Johnstone [a] W2-0 (SFL First Division - game 8)

08.10.1966 St Johnstone [a] W5-3 (SFL First Division - game 5)

28.04.1973 St Johnstone [a] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 34)

14.12.1974 St Johnstone [a] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 16)

16.08.1975 St Johnstone [a] W4-2 (League Cup Section 4 - game 3)

13.11.1993 St Johnstone [a] W3-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 17)

 

 

Biggest margin of defeat in Perth:

01.04.1939 St Johnstone [a] L0-7 (SFL First Division - game 35)

 

 

Biggest attendance in Perth:

02.09.1961 St Johnstone [a] L3-4 (League Cup Section 1 - game 6) Att: 10,500

 

 

Lowest attendance in Perth:

03.08.1985 St Johnstone [a] L0-2 (Friendly) Att: 476

 

 

Top Thistle scorer vs St Johnstone:

Total Goals - Player [competitive + friendly] (first goal to last goal)

7 - Sandy Hair [7 + 0] (02.04.1927 to 22.09.1928)

7 - Arthur Duncan [7 + 0] (06.04.1966 to 03.09.1969)

 

 

All current Thistle scorers vs St Johnstone:

Total Goals - Player [competitive + friendly] (first goal to last goal)

2 - Kris Doolan [2 + 0] (28.09.2013 to 29.03.2014)

 

 

Hat tricks vs St Johnstone:

02.04.1927 St Johnstone [h] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 34) 3 goals for Sandy Hair

22.09.1928 St Johnstone [h] W6-2 (SFL First Division - game 6) 4 goals for Sandy Hair

17.08.1935 St Johnstone [h] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 2) 3 goals for Sandy MacLennan

02.03.1985 St Johnstone [h] W6-2 (SFL First Division - game 29) 3 goals for Kenny Watson

02.10.1993 St Johnstone [h] W4-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 9) 3 goals for Roddy Grant

 

 

Clean sheets vs St Johnstone:

16 @ Firhill

2 @ McDiarmid Park

1 @ Muirton Park

 

 

Top Clean Sheet Keeper vs St Johnstone:

5 - Jonny Tuffey [5 + 0] (13.03.2007 to 17.01.2009)

 

 

All current Thistle Clean Sheet keepers vs St Johnstone:

1 - Scott Fox [1 + 0] (25.10.2014 to 25.10.2014)

 

 

[The Sunnylaw Jag]

I have a mate that was nicknamed Geloshi cause he was so shit in goals.

Personally I don't believe you. I think you've made that up. There's no way you have a mate!!

[The Sunnylaw Jag]

^ With regards to Half Man Half Tattoo, his record is especially bad given it represents a card every 2 games - twice as big a ratio as Banzo. Onto tomorrow's game... So, what is with us and these tattie pickers? Our poor record in recent decades can be highlighted in so many different ways it's almost embarrassing. In all League history, Thistle have never beaten St Johnstone in Perth in the second tier. Played 15, won hee-haw. Cormack, Rooney, Lamont, Lambie, MacLeod, Whyte & Britton, Campbell, McCall – all tried, all failed. Unbelievable. Our all-time biggest victory in Perth? An underwhelming 2 goal margin. Home or away, we’ve only had 3 wins against St Johnstone in the last 31 games – and one of them was on penalties! Over the last few decades, our historical record vs the Perth side has been totally turned on its’ head. We are currently 8 games without a win against them, and 15 games without a win in Perth. The only crumb of comfort is that, despite it all, our away record in the Top Flight is still in touch with some degree of respectability. Dools is doing his bit to get us back on track. He’s been asked twice and has never failed to score at McDiarmid in the Premiership. Cheekily, brilliantly, defiantly – Archie’s Jags are unbeaten in Perth! However, it’s now more than 21 years since Albert, Roddy and Gerry scored the goals which gave us that cracking 3-1 victory in the Premier League – to date our only victory at McDiarmid Park in 20 visits. Happy 21st? Jags v Saints stats ˅

Last 10 @ McDiarmid Park: 29.03.2014 St Johnstone [a] D1-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 32) 28.09.2013 St Johnstone [a] D1-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 8) 09.02.2011 St Johnstone [a] L0-2 (Scottish Cup 5th Round) 04.04.2009 St Johnstone [a] D1-1 (SFL First Division - game 31) 25.10.2008 St Johnstone [a] L0-3 (SFL First Division - game 11) 05.01.2008 St Johnstone [a] L0-2 (SFL First Division - game 21) 15.09.2007 St Johnstone [a] L1-2 (SFL First Division - game 6) 10.03.2007 St Johnstone [a] L0-2 (SFL First Division - game 27) 04.11.2006 St Johnstone [a] L0-2 (SFL First Division - game 12) 22.01.2005 St Johnstone [a] D1-1 (SFL First Division - game 24) Biggest margin of victory in Perth: 09.02.1929 St Johnstone [a] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 25) 12.09.1936 St Johnstone [a] W2-0 (SFL First Division - game 8) 08.10.1966 St Johnstone [a] W5-3 (SFL First Division - game 5) 28.04.1973 St Johnstone [a] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 34) 14.12.1974 St Johnstone [a] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 16) 16.08.1975 St Johnstone [a] W4-2 (League Cup Section 4 - game 3) 13.11.1993 St Johnstone [a] W3-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 17) Biggest margin of defeat in Perth: 01.04.1939 St Johnstone [a] L0-7 (SFL First Division - game 35) Biggest attendance in Perth: 02.09.1961 St Johnstone [a] L3-4 (League Cup Section 1 - game 6) Att: 10,500 Lowest attendance in Perth: 03.08.1985 St Johnstone [a] L0-2 (Friendly) Att: 476 Top Thistle scorer vs St Johnstone: Total Goals - Player [competitive + friendly] (first goal to last goal) 7 - Sandy Hair [7 + 0] (02.04.1927 to 22.09.1928) 7 - Arthur Duncan [7 + 0] (06.04.1966 to 03.09.1969) All current Thistle scorers vs St Johnstone: Total Goals - Player [competitive + friendly] (first goal to last goal) 2 - Kris Doolan [2 + 0] (28.09.2013 to 29.03.2014) Hat tricks vs St Johnstone: 02.04.1927 St Johnstone [h] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 34) 3 goals for Sandy Hair 22.09.1928 St Johnstone [h] W6-2 (SFL First Division - game 6) 4 goals for Sandy Hair 17.08.1935 St Johnstone [h] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 2) 3 goals for Sandy MacLennan 02.03.1985 St Johnstone [h] W6-2 (SFL First Division - game 29) 3 goals for Kenny Watson 02.10.1993 St Johnstone [h] W4-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 9) 3 goals for Roddy Grant Clean sheets vs St Johnstone: 16 @ Firhill 2 @ McDiarmid Park 1 @ Muirton Park Top Clean Sheet Keeper vs St Johnstone: 5 - Jonny Tuffey [5 + 0] (13.03.2007 to 17.01.2009) All current Thistle Clean Sheet keepers vs St Johnstone: 1 - Scott Fox [1 + 0] (25.10.2014 to 25.10.2014)

Great entry as always TJR. Can't believe it's 21 years since we happily sang "Who Ate All the Pies" to Andy Rhodes in the St. Johnstone goal. I noticed that Arthur Duncan managed 7 goals against that lot in his time at Thistle. I wondered how many he scored against in total, given his time at Hibs, where he is still and probably will always be the holder of the most League appearances for Hibs with 446. Not too shabby considering he had 118 games for us in the League too.

[Jaggernaut]

Great entry as always TJR. Can't believe it's 21 years since we happily sang "Who Ate All the Pies" to Andy Rhodes in the St. Johnstone goal. I noticed that Arthur Duncan managed 7 goals against that lot in his time at Thistle. I wondered how many he scored against in total, given his time at Hibs, where he is still and probably will always be the holder of the most League appearances for Hibs with 446. Not too shabby considering he had 118 games for us in the League too.

 

I remember Arthur Duncan playing in a Save The Jags match at Firhill too. Legend.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

^^ Cheers Sunnylaw. I'll actually have the answer to your Arthur Duncan speculation one of these years as I'm slowly and surely building up the opposition data...

 

 

17.01.2015 St Johnstone 2 Partick Thistle 0 (SPFL Premiership - game 20)

• Paul nudges back ahead of Scott by 13 to 12 competitive game appearances for the season. Statistically, Scott has the better record with 1 more clean sheet, 2 more wins and 2 less defeats.
  
• Referee Greig Aitken handles his first ever competitive Thistle game.
  
• In his fifth competitive outing this season, Dale picks up his first yellow card.
  
• Thistle are now 19 Premiership games without a win in the disciplinary stakes.
  
• Steven is involved in a substition for the 20th time in his 23 competitive appearances this season - a ratio which would surely result in a club season record if present levels were maintained.
  
• Stephen, the subject of much transfer speculation this week, is involved in a substitution for the first time, on his 19th competitive appearance of the season.
  
• George Easton and Bertie Auld are now in an ultra rare group of only two Thistle managers who've remained unbeaten after trips to Perth.
  
• In their 28th competitive match of 2014-15, this is St Johnstone's first 2 goal victory of the season.
  
• Thistle are now 4 games without a win. The last victory was achieved over a month ago at the Caledonian Stadium, which also happens to be Jordan's last game.
  
• Those who like to depict W-D-L outcomes using three nice colours will be delighted to note that Thistle's amazingly stripy sequence now stretches to 27, meaning the club have played 26 competitive matches since the colour repeated.
  
• Thistle have failed to score in 7 of their last 10 away matches.
  
• For the 8th League match in a row, Thistle remain 9th in the Premiership.
  

[Jaggernaut]

• Thistle have failed to score in 7 of their last 10 away matches.
  

 

Not good.

[lady-isobel-barnett]

• Thistle have failed to score in 7 of their last 10 away matches.
  

 

and I can't recall too many howlers in front of goal in those 7* games.

 

*Wasn't at Parkhead but I'm sure I read we only had the one serious chance.

[Veejag]

Is there a world record for this W-D-L sequence?

[partickthedog]

and I can't recall too many howlers in front of goal in those 7* games. *Wasn't at Parkhead but I'm sure I read we only had the one serious chance.

 

Think I would make that two

 

Osman header against bar in first half.

 

Doolan shot well saved by Gordon in second half

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Is there a world record for this W-D-L sequence?

VJ, I share your thirst for knowledge, but I doubt it will be quenched with this near impossible to solve query.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Despite an almost 50 year absence for the fixture, Wednesday night brings our 75^th Top Flight encounter with Hamilton Accies. Surprisingly, they have the upper hand in these bouts with 36 wins to 26, although Thistle just edge it in overall games by 65 wins to 63.

 

Having recently looked at the fact that Kris is the only current player to have scored against St Johnstone, it is pleasing to report that there are no fewer than TEN current Jagsmen who have done the needful against Hamilton – what a contast!

 

Christie leads the way with a 3 goal tally and Ryan will have strong memories of netting his first competitive goals for the club in the Scottish Cup tie just less than 2 months ago.

 

At the other end of the park, Scott has the incredible honour of being the joint all-time clean-sheet record ‘keeper against Hamilton, with an impressive 4 under his belt to date. He currently shares this accolade with William Campbell who achieved 4 spread between 1910 and 1911. In fact, prior to the 3-3 game earlier in the season, Scott had registered 3 consecutive clean sheets against the Accies.

 

Jags v Accies stats…

 

 

 

 

Last 10 @ Firhill:

 

29.11.2014 Hamilton Academical [h] W2-0 (Scottish Cup 4th Round)

23.08.2014 Hamilton Academical [h] L1-2 (SPFL Premiership - game 3)

19.02.2013 Hamilton Academical [h] W1-0 (SFL First Division - game 22)

01.09.2012 Hamilton Academical [h] W4-0 (SFL First Division - game 4)

03.03.2012 Hamilton Academical [h] W2-0 (SFL First Division - game 25)

20.08.2011 Hamilton Academical [h] D1-1 (SFL First Division - game 3)

19.01.2008 Hamilton Academical [h] W3-0 (SFL First Division - game 22)

01.09.2007 Hamilton Academical [h] L0-3 (SFL First Division - game 5)

17.03.2007 Hamilton Academical [h] L0-2 (SFL First Division - game 29)

18.11.2006 Hamilton Academical [h] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 13)

 

 

Biggest margin of home victory:

 

06.10.1928 Hamilton Academical [h] W8-0 (SFL First Division - game 8)

 

 

Biggest margin of home defeat:

 

23.04.1932 Hamilton Academical [h] L1-6 (SFL First Division - game 37)

 

 

Highest home attendance:

 

26.01.1952 Hamilton Academical [h] L0-1 (Scottish Cup 1st Round) Att: 18,500

 

 

Lowest home attendance:

 

28.04.1966 Hamilton Academical [h] W1-0 (SFL First Division - game 33) Att: 1,000

 

 

Top Thistle scorer vs Hamilton Academical:

Total Goals - Player [competitive + friendly] (first goal to last goal)

 

16 - Willie Sharp [16 + 0] (27.09.1941 to 10.04.1954)

 

 

All current Thistle scorers vs Hamilton Academical:

Total Goals - Player [competitive + friendly] (first goal to last goal)

 

3 - Christie Elliott [3 + 0] (20.08.2011 to 01.11.2014)

2 - Ryan Stevenson [2 + 0] (29.11.2014 to 29.11.2014)

2 - Sean Welsh [2 + 0] (05.05.2012 to 01.09.2012)

1 - Kallum Higginbotham [1 + 0] (23.08.2014 to 23.08.2014)

1 - Jordan McMillan [1 + 0] (01.11.2014 to 01.11.2014)

1 - James Craigen [1 + 0] (01.11.2014 to 01.11.2014)

1 - Conrad Balatoni [1 + 0] (16.03.2013 to 16.03.2013)

1 - Kris Doolan [1 + 0] (03.03.2012 to 03.03.2012)

1 - Steven Lawless [1 + 0] (01.09.2012 to 01.09.2012)

1 - Stuart Bannigan [1 + 0] (05.05.2012 to 05.05.2012)

 

 

All hat tricks vs Hamilton Academical:

 

18.11.2006 Hamilton Academical [h] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 13) 3 goals for Mark Roberts

24.11.1945 Hamilton Academical [h] W5-1 (Southern League, Division A - game 16) 4 goals for Willie Sharp

27.12.1941 Hamilton Academical [a] W6-3 (Southern League - game 21) 3 goals for Willie Newall

27.09.1941 Hamilton Academical [h] W7-0 (Southern League - game 8) 4 goals for Willie Sharp

24.08.1937 Hamilton Academical [h] W4-3 (SFL First Division - game 3) 4 goals for Peter McKennan

02.08.1933 Hamilton Academical [a] W7-3 (SFL First Division - game 1) 3 goals for George Wyllie

06.10.1928 Hamilton Academical [h] W8-0 (SFL First Division - game 8) 5 goals for Sandy Hair

23.09.1922 Hamilton Academical [h] W5-3 (SFL First Division - game 5) 4 goals for Jimmy Gibson

27.10.1917 Hamilton Academical [h] W5-0 (SFL First Division - game 10) 3 goals for Neil Harris

14.10.1916 Hamilton Academical [h] W5-0 (SFL First Division - game 8) 3 goals for Neil Harris

31.03.1900 Hamilton Academical [a] W4-2 (SFL Second Division - game 18) 3 goals for John Blackwood

 

 

All Clean sheets vs Hamilton Academical:

 

26, home

16, away

 

 

All-Time Top Clean Sheet Keeper vs Hamilton Academical:

Total C.S. - Goalkeeper [competitive + friendly] (first C.S. to last C.S.)

 

4 - William Campbell [4 + 0] (19.11.1910 to 30.12.1911)

4 - Scott Fox [4 + 0] (03.03.2012 to 16.03.2013)

 

 

All current Thistle Clean Sheet keepers vs Hamilton Academical:

Total C.S. - Goalkeeper [competitive + friendly] (first C.S. to last C.S.)

 

4 - Scott Fox [4 + 0] (03.03.2012 to 16.03.2013)

1 - Paul Gallacher [1 + 0] (29.11.2014 to 29.11.2014)

 

 

[twinsplustwo]

Rebel. Since signing how many fellow strikers has doolan seen off .?

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Rebel. Since signing how many fellow strikers has doolan seen off .?

 

Tricky query as lines are so blurred with forward roles these days. I had a scan over the team sheets from then ‘til now and came up with a list of 24 (including a few trialists) that I'd consider forwards, and all have played in the main striker role at some stage of their careers. Dools and Marco once played together in the same team, who knew?

 

Roughly in chronological order: Mark Roberts, Lucas Akins, Liam Buchanan, Simon Donnelly, Graeme Eaglesham, Jim Hamilton, Steve Lovell, Kieran Burns, Philip Middlemiss, Mark Corcoran, Jordan McGrotty, Martin Grehan, Tommy Stewart, Shaun Fraser, Craig Dargo, Kal Naismith, Mark McGuigan, Steven Craig, Rory Boulding, Kane Hemmings, John Baird, Henoc Mukendi, Lyle Taylor, Kalen Damessi.

Edited January 21, 2015 by The Jukebox Rebel

[kni]

^ There are few youth players and reserves on that list who never got near the first team. Kalen Damessi was only a trialist in the summer. Were Kane Hemmings and Rory Boulding trialists too? To me, those who never played a competitive first-team match don't count as "fellow strikers". It's also questionable to suggest that Doolan "saw off" Lyle Taylor as the club tried very hard to re-sign him.

 

ETA - Your amazing stats knowledge is very entertaining. Your records must be very comprehensive.

Edited January 21, 2015 by kni

[Graemei]

Is there a world record for this W-D-L sequence?

 

Would love to know this and if we are close to it!

[partick monkey]

 

 

Tricky query as lines are so blurred with forward roles these days. I had a scan over the team sheets from then ‘til now and came up with a list of 24 (including a few trialists) that I'd consider forwards, and all have played in the main striker role at some stage of their careers. Dools and Marco once played together in the same team, who knew?

 

Roughly in chronological order: Mark Roberts, Lucas Akins, Liam Buchanan, Simon Donnelly, Graeme Eaglesham, Jim Hamilton, Steve Lovell, Kieran Burns, Philip Middlemiss, Mark Corcoran, Jordan McGrotty, Martin Grehan, Tommy Stewart, Shaun Fraser, Craig Dargo, Kal Naismith, Mark McGuigan, Steven Craig, Rory Boulding, Kane Hemmings, John Baird, Henoc Mukendi, Lyle Taylor, Kalen Damessi.

 

Was Stevie "the championship" Lennon no a striker?

[twinny]

22 of them I reckon

 

 

 

 

I think it’s impossible for anyone to be absolutely definitive in reply to this query but I shall do my best to answer you Mr. D. I’ve been doing a fair bit of work in this area over the last year or so and, as a result, have greatly reduced the number of unknown goals – highlighted by the ever rising Willie Paul total. However, there are several hundred goals which remain unaccredited, mainly from the 19th century. The majority of them are likely to remain that way, but I would still expect to find more scorers which could affect the all-time table. To boot, there are yet still newly discovered games which pop up occasionally. Also, as more and more press becomes digitized and accessible, some old disputes can be settled which occasionally mean the odd goal being added or subtracted here and there from a players’ total. All that said, I believe the following will be very close to the true picture, but please bear in mind it remains a work in progress…

 

Also, I believe that this table should be reported with all goals included – it seems like fair play when comparing 140 seasons of Thistle history. However, I’ve listed the “Top 40” in three styles for easy comparison - All games, All competitive games and League Games only. At the time of posting, Kris sits joint 23rd in the first two categories and joint 16th in the latter.

 

 

Goals Total  –  Player    (first goal to last goal)    [competitive + friendly]

 

237  –  Willie Sharp    (26.09.1939 to 10.11.1956)    [226 + 11]

215  –  Willie Paul    (31.01.1885 to 23.02.1901)    [124 + 91]

132  –  George Smith    (21.08.1954 to 30.09.1963)    [126 + 6]

125  –  Jimmy Walker    (26.04.1947 to 21.11.1953)    [121 + 4]

117  –  John Torbet    (29.09.1924 to 22.04.1933)    [111 + 6]

114  –  Peter McKennan    (04.09.1935 to 25.10.1947)    [112 + 2]

113  –  Davie McParland    (06.03.1954 to 04.11.1967)    [109 + 4]

105  –  Willie Newall    (16.09.1939 to 03.03.1945)    [100 + 5]

101  –  Dougie Somner    (14.12.1974 to 07.05.1979)    [83 + 18]

100  –  John Wallace    (09.05.1936 to 18.05.1940)    [97 + 3]

98  –  Neil Harris    (23.08.1913 to 14.04.1920)    [93 + 5]

97  –  Sandy Hair    (01.09.1923 to 20.10.1928)    [97 + 0]

97  –  Davie Ness    (24.09.1923 to 11.08.1934)    [96 + 1]

95  –  Sam Kennedy    (16.08.1902 to 27.03.1909)    [91 + 4]

90  –  Denis McQuade    (08.08.1970 to 04.08.1978)    [76 + 14]

90  –  John Simpson    (10.11.1928 to 20.04.1932)    [69 + 21]

90  –  Alex Wright    (29.10.1949 to 25.03.1961)    [81 + 9]

89  –  Johnny Ballantyne    (17.12.1921 to 02.03.1935)    [76 + 13]

86  –  Jimmy Bone    (27.07.1968 to 22.01.1972)    [73 + 13]

84  –  Tommy Ewing    (05.11.1955 to 06.04.1966)    [81 + 3]

83  –  Alex Stott    (19.11.1949 to 25.04.1953)    [79 + 4]

80  –  Frank Coulston    (07.10.1967 to 12.10.1974)    [76 + 4]

75  –  Kris Doolan    (24.01.2009 to 04.01.2015)    [69 + 6]

75  –  Jimmy Kinloch    (19.08.1920 to 17.09.1927)    [74 + 1]

73  –  Willie Freebairn    (04.05.1893 to 27.10.1900)    [55 + 18]

71  –  Willie O'Donnell    (20.10.1945 to 09.12.1950)    [68 + 3]

70  –  Joe Craig    (21.10.1972 to 01.09.1976)    [61 + 9]

70  –  Neil Duffy    (29.10.1960 to 03.10.1964)    [67 + 3]

70  –  Tommy Rae    (04.04.1964 to 25.09.1974)    [60 + 10]

69  –  Andrew Johnston    (11.04.1885 to 19.04.1890)    [12 + 57]

68  –  John Bowie    (02.10.1915 to 15.11.1921)    [68 + 0]

67  –  Ronnie Glavin    (28.03.1970 to 02.11.1974)    [57 + 10]

66  –  Jim Melrose    (13.03.1976 to 07.05.1980)    [57 + 9]

66  –  John Proudfoot    (11.08.1894 to 14.05.1904)    [51 + 15]

64  –  Willie Whittle    (05.09.1914 to 10.01.1920)    [64 + 0]

63  –  Maurice Johnston    (19.08.1981 to 12.11.1983)    [55 + 8]

63  –  Willie Salisbury    (21.09.1918 to 01.09.1928)    [62 + 1]

62  –  Bobby Grove    (22.12.1923 to 13.08.1932)    [59 + 3]

60  –  Alex O'Hara    (18.10.1977 to 12.05.1984)    [56 + 4]

60  –  Kenny Watson    (30.08.1980 to 11.08.1987)    [54 + 6]

 

 

 

Competitive Goals Total  –  Player

 

226  –  Willie Sharp

126  –  George Smith

124  –  Willie Paul

121  –  Jimmy Walker

112  –  Peter McKennan

111  –  John Torbet

109  –  Davie McParland

100  –  Willie Newall

97  –  Sandy Hair

97  –  John Wallace

96  –  Davie Ness

93  –  Neil Harris

91  –  Sam Kennedy

83  –  Dougie Somner

81  –  Tommy Ewing

81  –  Alex Wright

79  –  Alex Stott

76  –  Johnny Ballantyne

76  –  Frank Coulston

76  –  Denis McQuade

74  –  Jimmy Kinloch

73  –  Jimmy Bone

69  –  Kris Doolan

69  –  John Simpson

68  –  John Bowie

68  –  Willie O'Donnell

67  –  Neil Duffy

64  –  Willie Whittle

62  –  Willie Salisbury

61  –  Joe Craig

60  –  Tommy Rae

59  –  Bobby Grove

57  –  Ronnie Glavin

57  –  Jim Melrose

56  –  Alex O'Hara

55  –  Willie Freebairn

55  –  Maurice Johnston

54  –  Jimmy Gibson

54  –  Bobby Howitt

54  –  Kenny Watson

 

 

 

League Goals Total  –  Player

 

note: in the interests of fairness to players of every era, I include all of the primary League campaigns, 1891-92 to date, extraordinarily including the two pre-SFL Alliance seasons and the seven Regional League seasons from WWII time which are usually ignored by statiscal databases. In line with the general historian consensus, I deem the 5 SFL games from the abandoned competition of 1939/40 to be voided and do not include them. This should be the most accurate of the three scoring charts - @ 6 January 2015, all bar 21 of the 6564 goal scorers are known.

 

170  –  Willie Sharp

91  –  John Torbet

84  –  John Wallace

82  –  Willie Paul

82  –  Neil Harris

82  –  Peter McKennan

82  –  Willie Newall

78  –  George Smith

77  –  Sandy Hair

76  –  Davie Ness

74  –  Jimmy Walker

73  –  Davie McParland

72  –  Sam Kennedy

65  –  Johnny Ballantyne

62  –  John Bowie

61  –  Kris Doolan

61  –  Dougie Somner

59  –  Alex Stott

58  –  John Simpson

57  –  Frank Coulston

56  –  Tommy Ewing

56  –  Jimmy Kinloch

55  –  Neil Duffy

53  –  Willie Whittle

52  –  Jimmy Bone

52  –  Alex Wright

51  –  Willie Salisbury

48  –  Kenny Watson

47  –  Denis McQuade

47  –  Alex O'Hara

45  –  Willie O'Donnell

45  –  George Wyllie

44  –  Joe Craig

44  –  Jimmy Gibson

44  –  Bobby Grove

44  –  Jim Marshall

42  –  Willie Freebairn

40  –  Maurice Johnston

40  –  Tommy Rae

 

 

 

 

Doolan now level with Jimmy Bone in competitive goals and Johnny Ballantyne in league goals. Could still get ahead by the end of the night...

[allyo]

 

 

Would love to know this and if we are close to it!

 

I make it that odds on our sequence are about 1 in 57,000.

 

Assuming that average professional club is 125 years old and has played average of 40 competitive games a season (no idea how this stacks up against history, but anyway), average club has played about 5,000 games. On this basis you'd exact that about 1 in 11 clubs has experienced a run like this at some time in its history. So we're probably a way off any world records. Pretty remarkable all the same. Might not be too far off a Scottish record. Could cement the old reputation as the unpredictables.

 

However, our run will end on Saturday. (But that's a prediction)

[The Jukebox Rebel]

^ There are few youth players and reserves on that list who never got near the first team. Kalen Damessi was only a trialist in the summer. Were Kane Hemmings and Rory Boulding trialists too? To me, those who never played a competitive first-team match don't count as "fellow strikers". It's also questionable to suggest that Doolan "saw off" Lyle Taylor as the club tried very hard to re-sign him.

 

ETA - Your amazing stats knowledge is very entertaining. Your records must be very comprehensive.

Some fair points kni – perhaps I could have made myself clearer. I wasn’t suggesting that Dools saw any of the players off – I was merely providing a list in answer to the question posed. As for how you deal with the info, I guess that’s all subjective n'est-ce pas?

 

Re my list of 24, all I can say is that all of those players fit the criteria of the query. They’re all recognised strikers, and they all played at least once in the Thistle first team from 10th January 2009 (Doolan’s debut) onwards, and they’re now all no longer with the club.

 

In regards to including friendly matches, me personally, I can’t disregard them since I’m immersed in 140 years of Jaggy history and back in the beginning friendlies were all we had. I would find it ludicrous to suddenly start ignoring them now in order to conform with the IT trends of Wikipedia editors or Sky Sports reporters or whoever.

 

I guess I could have further quantified it with the competitive / friendly split to help the query along. For the record, only 4 of the 24 failed to play competitively - Philip Middlemiss, Rory Boulding, Kane Hemmings and Kalen Damessi. The latter three were trialists.

 

And thanks for the kind words. I do actually try to make the stats entertaining for myself and therefore hopefully for others too so it’s nice to hear you say that.

 

You’ll enjoy today’s post-match entries.

 

Was Stevie "the championship" Lennon no a striker?

Aye, but he’s out of the timeline so he was excluded. His last game for the Jags was 30th December 2008 at Greenock. Doolan’s debut was 10th January 2009 at Inverness. I’m guessing that Ian Mac played out the scenario of “one out, one in” in his mind at the time.

 

Doolan now level with Jimmy Bone in competitive goals and Johnny Ballantyne in league goals. Could still get ahead by the end of the night...

Indeed. Kristiano has been steadily marching up these charts for 6 years now. Where will it all end? We are witnessing history in the making.

[Jaggernaut]

Some fair points kni – perhaps I could have made myself clearer. I wasn’t suggesting that Dools saw any of the players off – I was merely providing a list in answer to the question posed. As for how you deal with the info, I guess that’s all subjective n'est-ce pas?

 

Re my list of 24, all I can say is that all of those players fit the criteria of the query. They’re all recognised strikers, and they all played at least once in the Thistle first team from 10th January 2009 (Doolan’s debut) onwards, and they’re now all no longer with the club.

 

In regards to including friendly matches, me personally, I can’t disregard them since I’m immersed in 140 years of Jaggy history and back in the beginning friendlies were all we had. I would find it ludicrous to suddenly start ignoring them now in order to conform with the IT trends of Wikipedia editors or Sky Sports reporters or whoever.

 

I guess I could have further quantified it with the competitive / friendly split to help the query along. For the record, only 4 of the 24 failed to play competitively - Philip Middlemiss, Rory Boulding, Kane Hemmings and Kalen Damessi. The latter three were trialists.

 

And thanks for the kind words. I do actually try to make the stats entertaining for myself and therefore hopefully for others too so it’s nice to hear you say that.

 

You’ll enjoy today’s post-match entries.

 

 

Aye, but he’s out of the timeline so he was excluded. His last game for the Jags was 30th December 2008 at Greenock. Doolan’s debut was 10th January 2009 at Inverness. I’m guessing that Ian Mac played out the scenario of “one out, one in” in his mind at the time.

 

 

Indeed. Kristiano has been steadily marching up these charts for 6 years now. Where will it all end? We are witnessing history in the making.

 

Let's all hope so.

 

Dools is already ahead of some very eminent Thistle players, and is snapping at the heels of a few more. Last night's match showed it clearly: get good balls into the box and give him good support and he can destroy teams. Another one who needs an immediate contract extension.

[The Jukebox Rebel]

Prior to this season, we'd only registered one solitary 4 goal margin victory in the national Top Flight in the last 32 years. Last night, the craziest team in the entire history of Scottish football registered their 3rd in this bonkers season! I previously reported that the 4 goal victory over Ross County was our 100th such margin in the Top Flight. We're obviously now onto 102. Little did I think that we'd be repeating the dosage so soon. So unpredictable, just like the good old / bad old days (delete as per your outlook).

 

As you might imagine, I've got stats bursting oot from every seam today - my advice is to take a deep breath and read slowly or you'll pop your brain cells! Ha-ha - like I've been doing as I've been making them up. To make it a bit easier to digest, I've split my post-match stats report into two, giving the No.9 his own space.

 

 

21.01.2015 Partick Thistle 5 Hamilton Academical 0 (SPFL Premiership - game 21)

• As previously reported, Thistle have only been able to field the same team for a maximum of two games in a row this season. This trend was exemplified with last night's line up - never mind the full eleven, we've never even been able to field the same back four for more than two games in a row!
  
• After 5 games and 450 minutes game time for Thistle, Freddy has yet to feature in a side which has lost a goal from open play.
  
• Paul draws level with Scott on 4 clean sheets for the season. He returns a clean sheet against Hamilton for the second time in 7 weeks. In that short time he is halfway to joining the all-time 'keepers best vs Hamilton, which stands at 4, and is held between Scott Fox and William Campbell.
  
• Partick Thistle 1 yellow card; Hamilton Accies 2 yellow cards. Thistle "come from behind" to record their first Premiership discipline win in 20 games - their first since the opening day of the season.
  
• Kallum takes over at the top of our yellow card table for the season with 7, all of which have come in the Premiership.
  
• Abdul is subbed for the first time in his Thistle playing career, allowing 21 minutes game time for the unfortunate Sean Welsh, who finishes the game injured.
  
• Of the 22 outfield players who've made an appearance this term, only Freddy and Liam have not been involved in a substitution.
  
• Archie guides Thistle to their 14th victory in the Premiership, and he duly overtakes Mr. Symon in the managers' table for Partick Thistle Top Flight wins.
  
• Steven celebrates his 100th competitive appearance (or 102nd if you count the ARR Craib Cup) by rocketing to the very summit of the Scottish Premiership assists table, with a registered total of 7. Could a Thistle player take this title for the second season in a row?
  
• Kris, ever the man for a Jaggy milestone, scored Thistle's 150th top flight goal against Hamilton when he headed home his 4th goal of the night.
  
• With the 5th goal, Nathan ensured that Thistle have scored an average of more than 2 goals per game against Accies in the Top Flight. In this category we have now played 75 and scored 151.
  
• Nathan's goal was his first in the League for Thistle, and he becomes the 14th Jag to join the League scorers table for the season. Just to remind you - the record spread for this category stands at 18 different scorers in season 1999-00.
  
• Remarkably, Nathan becomes the eleventh current Jag to have registered against the Accies.
  
• Last night's magnificent win was our biggest margin of victory over Hamilton since we beat them 7-0 at Firhill in the Southern League in September, 1941.
  
• The last time we scored 5 in the Top Flight was also on a Wednesday night. We defeated Livingston by 5 goals to 2 at Firhill on the 11th February 2004.
  
• The last time we won by a 5 goal margin in the Top Flight? Yep, that was a Wednesday night too. Wednesday, the 25th April 1979, to be precise, when we defeated Hibernian by 6 goals to 1 at Firhill.
  
• Thistle have only bettered a 5 goal winning margin in the national Top Flight on 13 occasions in the past.
  
• The last time Thistle clocked up 3 Top Flight victories by at least 4 goal margins in the same season was almost 60 years ago in season 1955-56. For the record, those games were: 17.03.1956 Stirling Albion [h] W6-1; 25.04.1956 Queen of the South [h] W9-1; 28.04.1956 Aberdeen [a] W4-0. Those who keep a keen eye on my stats postings will note that this sequence also repeats the only other time that we won 4-0 away to a team that were 2nd top of the Scottish League, chiming with our recent exploits in Inverness. Now, what were the odds on all of that?
  
• Thistle's unbeaten run at Firhill now to stretches to 5 competitive games.
  
• Thistle have now played 27 competitive games without repeating a W-D-L outcome, a truly incredible 28 game sequence which stretches from 3rd May 2014 to date.
  
• A combination of a freezing cold night and a pervasive pessimism amongst much of the Thistle support resulted in a poor turnout of just 2,138. This was Thistle's lowest crowd in the Top Flight, home or away, since the 1st May 1982 when just 1,973 turned out to witness a goal-less draw against Airdrieonians at Firhill.
  

[The Jukebox Rebel]

21.01.2015 Dools Watch Special Report

• Kris gets his first ever hat trick for the Jags - plus one for good measure! His first brace came in March 2009 in a 2-0 victory at Victoria Park. Prior to last night, he had been "on the verge" on ten occasions, all told.
  
• Kris becomes the first player to score a hat trick in Scotland's Premiership in season 2014-15.
  
• Kris becomes the first player to ever score 4 goals in one match in Scotland's Premiership.
  
• Overnight, Kris has shot to joint 7th in this season's Premiership goals table and will be looking to finish in the Top 10 for the second season in a row.
  
• Overall, Kris has now scored 18 goals in the Scottish Premiership and is currently the 8th all-time highest scorer in the new competition. He trails only Kris Commons (30); John Sutton (28); Anthony Stokes (27); Billy McKay (27); Kris Boyd (22); Stevie May (20) and Nadir Cifci (20).
  
• The phrase "Kris Doolan, Partick Thistle legend" was never more appropriate than last night at Firhill as he raised his overall club goals tally to the 79 mark. According to my calculations, this makes him outright 23rd highest scorer in our 140 season history. He is now tucked in just one behind Frank Coulston. Whatever way you look at it, every goal for the number 9 is making history before our eyes.
  
• Kris is the first man to score 4 goals for Thistle in any game since Ian Cameron on the 11th August 1993, when Jags defeated Albion Rovers by 11 goals to 1 in the League Cup.
  
• Kris becomes the 13th man to score 4 or more for Thistle in the national Top Flight. The last man to do so was George Shaw on 29th August 1992 in a 6-3 win at home to Dundee. Kris was just 1 away from actually equalling the all-time club record for the category in question. The record haul of 5 remains jointly with John Miller (22.11.1924 Cowdenbeath [h] W6-1) and Sandy Hair (06.10.1928 Hamilton Academical [h] W8-0).
  
• With 65 League goals now to his credit, Kris sits jointly with Johnny Ballantyne as the clubs' 14th highest scorer in all League games.
  
• With 73 competitive goals now to his credit, Kris sits jointly with Jimmy Bone as the clubs' 22nd highest scorer in all competitive games.
  
• Kris now surges ahead of Ryan by 8 goals to 5 in the battle to be Thistle's top competitive scorer, 2014-15.
  
• Kris is now firmly on course to finish as top Thistle League scorer for the 4th time. His 7 goal haul puts him 4 ahead of nearest challengers Ryan and Gary. If the no.9 does eventually finish on top, he will join an ultra-elite group that includes only Willie Paul, Sam Kennedy and Dougie Somner. Only Willie Sharp went one step further than those 3, as he finished top League scorer 5 times in his illustrious career.
  

 

All hail Kristiano!

[Paulo]

Brilliant stuff. Love reading these.