The Jukebox Rebel Posted January 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 ^ The number of points that have been thrown away is unreal. Is that correct that none of the last 10 league games between ourselves and St Mirren have been won by the home team? That's a quirky wee thing is it not? I make it the last 9 though - 10 League games ago we lost at Love Street. Since then, we are 4 League games unbeaten in Paisley. 5 League games without a win at Firhill. Worse than that though is 1 win from the last 14 at Firhill in the League. This bogey has fairly sneaked up on us... 19.09.2014 St Mirren [h] L1-2 (SPFL Premiership - game 6) 25.04.2014 St Mirren [h] D1-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 35) 09.11.2013 St Mirren [h] L0-3 (SPFL Premiership - game 13) 19.03.2005 St Mirren [h] D0-0 (SFL First Division - game 30) 13.11.2004 St Mirren [h] L0-3 (SFL First Division - game 13) 15.12.2001 St Mirren [h] W1-0 (SFL First Division - game 19) 04.08.2001 St Mirren [h] D3-3 (SFL First Division - game 1) 14.03.1998 St Mirren [h] L1-2 (SFL First Division - game 28) 22.11.1997 St Mirren [h] D2-2 (SFL First Division - game 14) 08.02.1997 St Mirren [h] D0-0 (SFL First Division - game 26) 31.08.1996 St Mirren [h] D1-1 (SFL First Division - game 3) 06.02.1982 St Mirren [h] D0-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 19) 03.10.1981 St Mirren [h] D1-1 (SFL Premier Division - game 6) 31.01.1981 St Mirren [h] D0-0 (SFL Premier Division - game 24) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graemei Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 Aww man, I was already a bit anxious about Friday. Lets hope this appears in your stats as our first home win against St Mirren in the league since... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I remember the sole game on that list we did win. We were under the cosh the whole match, completely outplayed. Then we broke to score in what I think was our only attack of the game- a Hardie header IIRC. And Toastie was one of the St Mirren scorers in the 3-3, earlier the same season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingerjag Posted January 26, 2015 Report Share Posted January 26, 2015 I remember the sole game on that list we did win. We were under the cosh the whole match, completely outplayed. Then we broke to score in what I think was our only attack of the game- a Hardie header IIRC. And Toastie was one of the St Mirren scorers in the 3-3, earlier the same season. I think St.Mirren missed a pen aswell and they brought on George Weah's cousin Chris Weah or that might have been the 3-3 match Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopeless Unbeliever Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 I remember the sole game on that list we did win. We were under the cosh the whole match, completely outplayed. Then we broke to score in what I think was our only attack of the game- a Hardie header IIRC. And Toastie was one of the St Mirren scorers in the 3-3, earlier the same season. Yeah, Hardie came off the bench to score from an Andy Gibson cross (just before or after Gibson scored away to Dundee in the Cup) and ran over to give Lambie the GIRUY for having him on the bench in the first place. Think Hardie did that a few times that season. Arthur also saved a penalty (anyone able to give us Kenny's in game penalty record, always felt pretty confident in him). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 To add to the bad omens, it's a long time since we won twice in a calendar month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Archie, Shaggy and the great resistance As talked about at the weekend, we are currently contemplating the possibility of breaking our all-time record for failing to win back to back games in the Top Flight. How bizarre then, that we should simultaneously be taking forward a great run in the opposite direction - to all-time status for resisting back to back defeats. Taking all games into account, Thistle are currently 39 games since back to back defeats. No matter what happens on Friday night we will take this run to 40 games. Incredible stuff for a Thistle side plying their trade in the Top Flight. Limiting the query to the seasons in which we played Top Flight football, the current run has only ever been bettered once - by the great Thistle team who won the Scottish Cup! Their record run commenced on the 13th March 1920 and was finally set on 27th April 1921 after 69 games. Wow. However, I would probably have to concede that looking at these things from the all games perspective is probably not best practice. At least I've now said it once - and it was worth saying! However, I don't want to stand accused of mis-using those darned bendy stats. Therefore, from now on I shall say no more about the amazing angle above, and I'll refer to this sequence only in terms of competitive games, where the run currently sits at 33 games. In those terms, and again limiting the query to the seasons in which we were playing Top Flight football, the run currently lies 4th best of all-time: 67 games, 13.03.1920 to 27.04.1921 42 games, 31.12.1955 to 31.10.1956 40 games, 02.01.1950 to 11.11.1950 33 games, 29.03.2014 to date Opening up the query to all seasons, 1875-76 to date, the run currently lies 8th best of all-time: 67 games, 13.03.1920 to 27.04.1921 67 games, 07.04.2012 to 27.10.2013 58 games, 26.09.1970 to 27.11.1971 46 games, 05.04.1975 to 23.03.1976 44 games, 28.01.1989 to 09.01.1990 42 games, 31.12.1955 to 31.10.1956 40 games, 02.01.1950 to 11.11.1950 33 games, 29.03.2014 to date A final thought... In season 2012-13, Archie's Jags became the only Thistle side (since League football began for us in 1891) ever to resist back to back competitive defeats within a campaign. What an achievement - a one-off which has been matched by no other manager in Thistle's history. That must take some amount of mental toughness. And here we are again, witnessing history repeat itself. Surely he can't pull this miracle off for a second time - and in the Top Flight too? What craziness is this? Whether he does or he doesn't - what a tremendous effort from Archie, Shaggy and the lads, with this latest run now moving into its eleventh month. Even the doubters must surely have some degree of admiration for the resillience of this group. 'mon the Jags. #inarchiewetrust #indomitable #leaderofmen 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Archie, Shaggy and the great resistance As talked about at the weekend, we are currently contemplating the possibility of breaking our all-time record for failing to win back to back games in the Top Flight. How bizarre then, that we should simultaneously be taking forward a great run in the opposite direction - to all-time status for resisting back to back defeats. Taking all games into account, Thistle are currently 39 games since back to back defeats. No matter what happens on Friday night we will take this run to 40 games. Incredible stuff for a Thistle side plying their trade in the Top Flight. Limiting the query to the seasons in which we played Top Flight football, the current run has only ever been bettered once - by the great Thistle team who won the Scottish Cup! Their record run commenced on the 13th March 1920 and was finally set on 27th April 1921 after 69 games. Wow. However, I would probably have to concede that looking at these things from the all games perspective is probably not best practice. At least I've now said it once - and it was worth saying! However, I don't want to stand accused of mis-using those darned bendy stats. Therefore, from now on I shall say no more about the amazing angle above, and I'll refer to this sequence only in terms of competitive games, where the run currently sits at 33 games. In those terms, and again limiting the query to the seasons in which we were playing Top Flight football, the run currently lies 4th best of all-time: 67 games, 13.03.1920 to 27.04.1921 42 games, 31.12.1955 to 31.10.1956 40 games, 02.01.1950 to 11.11.1950 33 games, 29.03.2014 to date Opening up the query to all seasons, 1875-76 to date, the run currently lies 8th best of all-time: 67 games, 13.03.1920 to 27.04.1921 67 games, 07.04.2012 to 27.10.2013 58 games, 26.09.1970 to 27.11.1971 46 games, 05.04.1975 to 23.03.1976 44 games, 28.01.1989 to 09.01.1990 42 games, 31.12.1955 to 31.10.1956 40 games, 02.01.1950 to 11.11.1950 33 games, 29.03.2014 to date A final thought... In season 2012-13, Archie's Jags became the only Thistle side (since League football began for us in 1891) ever to resist back to back competitive defeats within a campaign. What an achievement - a one-off which has been matched by no other manager in Thistle's history. That must take some amount of mental toughness. And here we are again, witnessing history repeat itself. Surely he can't pull this miracle off for a second time - and in the Top Flight too? What craziness is this? Whether he does or he doesn't - what a tremendous effort from Archie, Shaggy and the lads, with this latest run now moving into its eleventh month. Even the doubters must surely have some degree of admiration for the resillience of this group. 'mon the Jags. #inarchiewetrust #indomitable #leaderofmen Great stuff. Most of us (and the media) have focused on the lack of back-to-back wins since we got promoted, but by turning it around and showing that we also haven't lost two on the trot for over 30 matches, you've made it clear that we can't be too bad a team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted January 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 (edited) ^ The stats say we’ve been hot and cold. On this occasion, they’re telling the truth! What will tomorrow bring? It’s tight at the top of our Top Flight conquests table. Will the Saints join Killie come Friday night? We currently have: 65 wins vs. Kilmarnock 64 wins vs. Hibernian 64 wins vs. St Mirren 63 wins vs. Heart of Midlothian 62 wins vs. Motherwell An intriguing 90 minutes lies ahead as conflicting stats reports twist the head one way then another… All 4 of St Mirren's Premiership victories have come away from Paisley this season, and they're 4 points ahead of Thistle in the away table. Add to that, the fact that we’re 5 games without a home win in the League vs St Mirren, and it doesn’t look good. However, we are currently protecting a 5 games unbeaten run at Firhill. And overall, Thistle's home form has been very good indeed. This season, only Hamilton have won at Firhill without the aid of a penalty, and even they only snatched a winner at the very death. Furthermore, we’ve won our last two encounters against the buddies by 1 goal to 0, hypothetically delivering - shock-horror - back to back clean sheets! To boot, the last time we moved up the table was 11 games ago when we beat St Mirren 1-0. We rose from 9th to 8th. Just sayin' like… Jags v Buddies stats... Last 10 @ Firhill: 23.09.2014 St Mirren [h] W1-0 aet (League Cup 3rd Round) 19.09.2014 St Mirren [h] L1-2 (SPFL Premiership - game 6) 25.04.2014 St Mirren [h] D1-1 (SPFL Premiership - game 35) 09.11.2013 St Mirren [h] L0-3 (SPFL Premiership - game 13) 19.03.2005 St Mirren [h] D0-0 (SFL First Division - game 30) 13.11.2004 St Mirren [h] L0-3 (SFL First Division - game 13) 15.12.2001 St Mirren [h] W1-0 (SFL First Division - game 19) 04.08.2001 St Mirren [h] D3-3 (SFL First Division - game 1) 14.03.1998 St Mirren [h] L1-2 (SFL First Division - game 28) 22.11.1997 St Mirren [h] D2-2 (SFL First Division - game 14) Biggest margin of home victory: 12.02.1887 St Mirren [h] W8-0 (Friendly) Biggest margin of home defeat: 09.11.2013 St Mirren [h] L0-3 (SPFL Premiership - game 13) 13.11.2004 St Mirren [h] L0-3 (SFL First Division - game 13) 13.04.1907 St Mirren [h] L1-4 (SFL First Division - game 31) 13.04.1903 St Mirren [h] L0-3 (Inter City League - game 6) 24.09.1898 St Mirren [h] L1-4 (SFL First Division - game 5) Highest home attendance: 19.11.1949 St Mirren [h] W4-0 (SFL Division A - game 10) Att: 25,000 Lowest (known) home attendance: 25.04.1908 St Mirren [h] L1-2 (SFL First Division - game 33) Att: 1,500 08.05.1965 St Mirren [h] W1-0 (Summer Cup Group 2 - game 3) Att: 1,500 Top Thistle scorer vs St Mirren: Total Goals - Player [competitive + friendly] (first goal to last goal) 16 - Willie Sharp [16 + 0] (27.04.1940 to 10.03.1956) All current Thistle scorers vs St Mirren: Total Goals - Player [competitive + friendly] (first goal to last goal) 2 - Kris Doolan [2 + 0] (25.04.2014 to 19.09.2014) 1 - Kallum Higginbotham [1 + 0] (31.08.2013 to 31.08.2013) 1 - Nathan Eccleston [1 + 0] (23.09.2014 to 23.09.2014) 1 - Christie Elliott [1 + 0] (08.11.2014 to 08.11.2014) All hat tricks vs St Mirren: 18.11.1961 St Mirren [a] W3-1 (SFL First Division - game 12) 3 goals for Joe McBride 23.04.1960 St Mirren [a] W4-2 (SFL First Division - game 33) 3 goals for Davie McParland 24.03.1954 St Mirren [a] W3-1 (SFL Division A - game 24) 3 goals for Willie Sharp 19.11.1949 St Mirren [h] W4-0 (SFL Division A - game 10) 3 goals for Alex Stott 23.01.1943 St Mirren [h] W8-1 (Southern League - game 25) 5 goals for Willie Newall 23.01.1943 St Mirren [h] W8-1 (Southern League - game 25) 3 goals for Willie Sharp 02.04.1938 St Mirren [h] W3-2 (SFL First Division - game 31) 3 goals for John Wallace 18.02.1928 St Mirren [a] W5-0 (Scottish Cup 3rd Round) 3 goals for Harry Gibson 28.12.1918 St Mirren [h] W5-1 (SFL First Division - game 18) 3 goals for John Bowie 09.02.1901 St Mirren [h] W5-3 (SFL First Division - game 20) 3 goals for John Spence 06.01.1900 St Mirren [a] L3-4 (Western League - game 3) 3 goals for John Blackwood 12.02.1887 St Mirren [h] W8-0 (Friendly) 4 goals for Willie Paul All Clean sheets vs St Mirren: 31, home 20, away All-Time Top Clean Sheet Keeper vs St Mirren: Total C.S. - Goalkeeper [competitive + friendly] (first C.S. to last C.S.) 7 - Alan Rough [7 + 0] (03.02.1973 to 06.02.1982) All current Thistle Clean Sheet keepers vs St Mirren: Total C.S. - Goalkeeper [competitive + friendly] (first C.S. to last C.S.) 2 - Scott Fox [2 + 0] (23.09.2014 to 08.11.2014) 1 - Paul Gallacher [1 + 0] (25.01.2014 to 25.01.2014) Edited January 29, 2015 by The Jukebox Rebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hosie Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 ^ Yep, Jean-Yves scored just the once, it was the 26th July 2003, in front of 1,673 at the stadium of dreams. His goal was a 7th minute equaliser in a 3-1 victory over the then Highland League champions. Apparently, they were last-minute replacements for Barnsley who were banned from playing by the English FA on some sort of financial wrong doing. Our "Indian" scorer was indeed Scottish internationalist Paul Wilson who was born there to a Scottish father and a Dutch-Portuguese mother. To round it all off, our globe trotter scored his only two Thistle goals in Canada in thon Gathering o' the Clans tournament in 1979. Perhaps even more unusually, he scored in each of his first two games and never again. Rajiv Pathak was born in Chennai, India. Lived in Derby as a teenager, later settled in Glasgow where he operated clothes shops in the south side. Never scored though, so Paul is the sole flag bearer for the Indian nation. Although, like Conrad, he's about as Scottish as a plate of haggis in reality... Just as a, possibly, interesting aside Pathak for awhile owned a pub at Parkhead Cross. It was called The Thistle. It's a real dive though. Worse than most of the other establishments in the neighbourhood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted January 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I remember going into the petrol station in Kegworth, on the border between Derbyshire and Leicestershire, and a guy spotted the badge on my Thistle top and started telling me all about his mate Joe who played for Thistle, Indian guy. I just assumed the guy was talking bollocks. Just as a, possibly, interesting aside Pathak for awhile owned a pub at Parkhead Cross. It was called The Thistle. It's a real dive though. Worse than most of the other establishments in the neighbourhood. Interesting asides are the best posts on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graemei Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Great stats man! Gets really interesting when you think about our unbeaten home record just now versus our record at home to St Mirren and their record away. Also add the fact that our last match was a draw... I hate St Mirrens style of play, at least in the last few matches against them i've watched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 ^ Yep, Jean-Yves scored just the once, it was the 26th July 2003, in front of 1,673 at the stadium of dreams. His goal was a 7th minute equaliser in a 3-1 victory over the then Highland League champions. Apparently, they were last-minute replacements for Barnsley who were banned from playing by the English FA on some sort of financial wrong doing. Our "Indian" scorer was indeed Scottish internationalist Paul Wilson who was born there to a Scottish father and a Dutch-Portuguese mother. To round it all off, our globe trotter scored his only two Thistle goals in Canada in thon Gathering o' the Clans tournament in 1979. Perhaps even more unusually, he scored in each of his first two games and never again. Rajiv Pathak was born in Chennai, India. Lived in Derby as a teenager, later settled in Glasgow where he operated clothes shops in the south side. Never scored though, so Paul is the sole flag bearer for the Indian nation. Although, like Conrad, he's about as Scottish as a plate of haggis in reality... TJR. Would I be right in saying that Jean-Yves had a topsy turvy first 7 minutes as a Thistle player? I recall him gifting a goal to Deveronvale when he thought the goalkeeper was coming for a ball so he just let their striker stroll past him to score. Almost immediately he broke up to the other end to score himself with a bouncy angled shot dragged across the goalie from the corner of the box. A little microcosm of an up and down career. Always liked him though! Crazier and more inconsistent than Chris Erskine, but had something of that same spirit and you never quite knew what he was going to do next. Could not tackle or cross, but had brilliant speed and sleight of foot in beating players while breaking up the wing. Best memory of Jean Yves was John Lambie's only game in charge at Firhill during his pre-Dick Campbell spell as interim manager. My daughter was mascot and we put together by far the best performance of a dreadful season to down league leaders Falkirk 2-1. Armand One scored both goals and Jean Yves was man of the match. Still have brilliant photo of my daughter in the middle, with Armand and Jean Yves on either side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 ^ Ah, the “fourth coming”. What an amazing win that was – they were on a massive unbeaten run and we were down and out. Alas, all to no avail in the end as Jean-Yves suffered 2 relegations in a row. Always good to hear about players taking time out for the fans though, superb. What a great memory you’ve got. I can barely recall last week’s game at the best of times, never mind games from over 10 years ago! You’re absolutely spot on about the Deveronvale game, it was Mark Chisholm who pounced as our man was dreaming. As you say, he made up for it just a few minutes later, so he was quickly forgiven. Jean-Yves had been at Firhill for about 3 weeks at that stage and first appeared at Somerset Park in a 6-1 win on 16th July 2003. I can tell you that on his debut he went bombing down that right flank to provide a great cross for Stuart Taylor to put Jags 2 up on 22 mins. By all accounts he made a great impression on Gerry Collins – Jags were red hot that pre-season. We’ll say no more about what happened next… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Jean-Yves had been at Firhill for about 3 weeks at that stage and first appeared at Somerset Park in a 6-1 win on 16th July 2003. I can tell you that on his debut he went bombing down that right flank to provide a great cross for Stuart Taylor to put Jags 2 up on 22 mins. By all accounts he made a great impression on Gerry Collins – Jags were red hot that pre-season. We’ll say no more about what happened next… Stuart Taylor also made a great impression on Gerry Collins, but that one didn't really work out either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 SPLstats @SPLstats 1 min1 minute ago Partick Thistle have won their last 2 matches against St Mirren. They haven't beaten them 3 times in a row since the 1970s. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) ^ Thanks Cup. Aye, Davie McParland started the run off in '73, and Bertie Auld took it to 4 in a row: 03.02.1973 St Mirren [a] W1-0 (Scottish Cup 3rd Round) 22.11.1975 St Mirren [h] W2-1 (SFL First Division - game 13) 17.01.1976 St Mirren [a] W3-2 (SFL First Division - game 22) 20.03.1976 St Mirren [a] W2-1 (Spring Cup Preliminary Group 3 - game 3) Edited January 30, 2015 by The Jukebox Rebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Stuart Taylor also made a great impression on Gerry Collins, but that one didn't really work out either. In all honesty of all the Collins signings Taylor was the player I was most excited about. Don't think I ever saw him put in a decent performance for us. Can remember fans of other clubs being envious of us signing him. At least the likes of Anis and Andy Ross were only supposed to be squad players whereas we were expecting to build a team round Stuart Taylor and for that matter that dud who did all the aimless pointing, Andy Thomson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 I think St.Mirren missed a pen aswell and they brought on George Weah's cousin Chris Weah or that might have been the 3-3 match Didn't he sing 'The Woad to Hell'? I'll get my coat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 We've done games since back to back wins and games since back to back defeats. How long is it since we had back to back draws ? I wonder which record will go first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 We've done games since back to back wins and games since back to back defeats. How long is it since we had back to back draws ? I wonder which record will go first. St Mirren (H) and Hibs (A) after the split last season. Both 1-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 St Mirren (H) and Hibs (A) after the split last season. Both 1-1. Well done. 28 games (competative) by my count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornwoodjag Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Another stat for the collection. That was St Mirren first clean sheet for 31 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a f kincaid Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Talk of the top 6............... Including last night, Thistle have played 513 games in the Prem League/SPL/SPFL. Only on 96 occasions (19%) have the tables shown us in the top half of either a 10 or a 12 team league after each match. By far the most successful time was out first stint. Since then it's true that we have seldom troubled the scorers as the figures below illustrate. If we are measured against teams such as Kilmarnock and St Johnstone then there does appear to be a problem with establishing ourselves as a top-flight team with realistic ambitions to finish mid-table. We have finished 5th only once in a 10-team league and never better than 8th in a 12-team league. 76/77 10 teams 4 times /36 matches Finished 5th 77/78 10 teams 16/36 7th 78/79 10 teams 19/36 8th 79/80 10 teams 14/36 7th 80/81 10 teams 13/36 6th 81/82 10 teams 11/36 9th ----------------------------------------------------------------- 77 times after 216 matches (36%) ----------------------------------------------------------------- 92/93 12 teams 6 times/44 matches Finished 8th 93/94 12 teams never/44 9th 94/95 10 teams 2/36 8th 95/96 10 teams 2/36 9th ------------------------------------------------------------------ 10 times after 160 matches (7%) ------------------------------------------------------------------- 02/03 12 teams once/38 matches Finished 10th 03/04 12 teams once/38 12th -------------------------------------------------------------------- Twice after 76 matches (3%) --------------------------------------------------------------------- 13/14 12 teams 5 times/38 matches Finished 10th 14/15 12 teams 2/23 Sitting 9th -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 7 times after 61 matches (11%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- OVERALL 96 times after 513 matches (19%) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 ^ Thanks afk, that's highly illustrative. "Bertie roolz ok". And at least Archie has never been a "never"! As a matter of interest (probably only to me) was your root source the Statto tables for game finish positions? I wouldn't mind seeing how those figures change if you stuck with "Top 6" all the way as opposed to "Top half". I remember looking at this Top 6 business in Zatafact when I noted: "Thistle, on average, finish the season as Scotland's 11th most succesful League club. This represents a sharp decline in fortunes since the Jags were relegated from the Premier League in 1981-82. At that time, Thistle finished, on average, as Scotland's 9th most succesful League club. The Top 6 feat seems to be very much the preserve of the old school Thistle." http://www.wearethistle.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/8327-zatafact-140-seasons-of-the-indomitable-p-t-f-c/page__view__findpost__p__149649 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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