ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 not disputing we have signed a couple of new defenders, or couple of new midfielders, but with exception of cerny, dumbuya was the only outfield player who started on saturday, who wasn't here last season. one player. out of ten. i concede some games have seen more than one outfield newbie start, but it is stretching it way too far to be seen as credible for someone to say we have "a whole new defence and new midfield". Agreed ... but saturday was only Big Dan's second start. His last start was Miller was in for Dumbuya and in fairness his partnership with Frans last season was punctuated with injury and suspensions, Conrad stepping up. .... First choice ( whatever that may be) back four is yet to have a decent run of competitive games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Good to see some football chat on here at last .... As I've argued in the last two season's, i think we've got the makings of a decent team. Subtle changes and clearly defined responsibilities may make all the difference. PT make's a good point that our formation although defined as a "4-2-3-1" does show some flexibility. My criticism is perhaps that some players are asked to fill the general roles of the formation they may not best suited to. ... One Christie Elliot! We've only one Christie Elliot! However, given time, a decent run in a settled team to gain familiarity and confidence in their placing, and to build understanding of team mates qualities, abilities and natural games.... i think we could see big improvements in overall performance. Ideally we should be able to hit the ground running with this stuff, but I'm willing to cut the gaffer some slack as much because the lack of finance hinders pre-season preparation, as much as because of his last 3 seasons in charge. It's evident to me that he's juggling buttons to sort out his personel nevermind make additions. I suspect Craigen and possibly a couple other of the 5 or 6 players released in May, were more reluctantly let go to free up cash rather than rejected for lack of talent or potential. How many contract offers were turned down during the close season? Edited September 21, 2015 by ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Scimmia Rossa Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 not disputing we have signed a couple of new defenders, or couple of new midfielders, but with exception of cerny, dumbuya was the only outfield player who started on saturday, who wasn't here last season. one player. out of ten. i concede some games have seen more than one outfield newbie start, but it is stretching it way too far to be seen as credible for someone to say we have "a whole new defence and new midfield". Frans and Seabourne hsve plsyed how many games? Welsh Bannigan Osman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Banzo is not a clean enough tackler and I wouldn't want Welsh steaming into to many tackles. Fraser should be able to do it, but not really his natural game, plus he's bombed out at the moment. I was thinking about Amoo as second striker, but thought I'd get pelters given his performances so far. Maybe a Theirry Henry style re-invention? Paul Paton is who we need. There, I said it. Re Amoo... I was thinking Sturridge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Frans and Seabourne hsve plsyed how many games? Welsh Bannigan Osman? frans nearly 30 dan over 20 welsh almost 60 banzo over 120 osman over 35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashman Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Paul Paton is who we need. There, I said it. Re Amoo... I was thinking Sturridge. Pogba is more like Sturridge... never fit. Who, if anyone, has the football brain and leadership to organise and motivate the team on the park? Preferably someone who can organise the defence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamconnollyglasgow Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 We aren't good enough right now I'm sick of the hard luck story we keep getting, thistle were the better team etc .. Stevenson can't start IMO he just doesn't do enough ! If you look at every squad in the leauge they have 3 or 4 strikers,we have 2 yet we are wondering why the goals aren't coming ! I feel sorry for doolan he just ain't getting the help he needs. So far he's been lucky to have a chance every1 game ,, we aren't losing many goals we should go all out attack next game if we get pumps fur enough but we just aren't giving it enough at the minute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Scimmia Rossa Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 frans nearly 30 dan over 20 welsh almost 60 banzo over 120 osman over 35 Frans and Seabourne together? Welsh, Abdul and Banzo together? You'll find the answer in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 I wasn't at the Ross County game, but was at the home match vs. Dundee and genuinely thought we were unlucky to lose that game. The link-up play between Doolan/Muirhead/Stevenson was excellent at times - although Lawless didn't really get a touch of the ball. Our next two are against struggling teams - imperative that we get some momentum with 4 more points at least on the board, or we could struggle all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Paul Paton is who we need. There, I said it. Re Amoo... I was thinking Sturridge. Would take Paton back in a heartbeat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Frans and Seabourne together? Welsh, Abdul and Banzo together? You'll find the answer in there. hmmmm, like that is it? see, when you said we were playing with "a whole new defence and new midfield", i would think most people would take that as wholesale personnel changes throughout, particularly with new signings. but, it's not hmmmm? but, now the lsr definition and rules is apparent. "a whole new defence and new midfield" is not actually new players in positions they haven't played in alongside other existing players for (what is the number of games required for it not to be new?), or even counting their total number of appearances for us (where for example banzo and welsh have played numerous times together as has banzo and osman, and even welsh and osman have played together before, and even with banzo, and you can do the same permutations for defence), and it's not even where players have played alongside one another previously before. but actually, where one out of our defence and one of our midfield players hasn't played x number of games beside one or two or three others enough, so it's therefore "a whole new defence and new midfield". got it. thing is though ..... particularly at this early part of the season, most if not all teams therefore have "a whole new defence and new midfield" based on the lsr rule (new signings, players coming thru youth systems etc, and existing signings playing), and as season progresses, injuries and suspensions mean they (and we) will continue by definition of the lsr rule to be playing with "a whole new defence and new midfield". so how do they manage to cope with this excuse of having to field "a whole new defence and new midfield"? especially when all around us (or rather all eleven above us) seem to be coping better and winning games, scoring goals, and being above us, and it's not a new phenomenon in football either then, as the lsr definition means teams have been having to play with "a whole new defence and new midfield" throughout their seasons, year after year. lineups changing, player personnel getting mixed up and changed about, see this new fangled modern football ehh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Would take Paton back in a heartbeat could be without a club by end of next month.? could also be without his freedom by end of next month too? possible on one, unlikely on both though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 What quality players are we able to sign now ?! Archie needs to concentrate on getting the best out if what he has now which he is clearly not doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 By and large, the squad is not that different from last year in terms of going forward. Yes, Higgy has gone but he hardly kicked a ball for us in the last few months. SoD is a big miss for us and hopefully Dumbaya will fill his boots. But the midfield who got forward last season in support of lone striker aren't doing that this season. Why? Their choice or the manager's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 By and large, the squad is not that different from last year in terms of going forward. Yes, Higgy has gone but he hardly kicked a ball for us in the last few months. SoD is a big miss for us and hopefully Dumbaya will fill his boots. But the midfield who got forward last season in support of lone striker aren't doing that this season. Why? Their choice or the manager's? Higgy migt not have kicked a ball, but he was treated as a threat by opposition defenders, regardless. Therefore doubled up on. Watched constantly. His distraction made others jobs easier. Notably providing space on the other side for SOD. Your second point is a loaded question and regardless of the answer allows blame to be pointed at the manager in some way or other. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Think most of our opponents have Sussex our game plan, such as it is. Ipso facto,we urgently require an alternative to 1 up front, in every game. If nothing else it's souls destroying to see high balls been pumped up towards Doolam and Lawless: neither of whom I'd I,ago switch the best will in the world are what you would call big physician forwards. Personally, I"d drop Stevemson and try Sools and Muirhead upfront.. In addition we must get back to our passing game,, we simply don't have the players to play the traditional Rangers way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Higgy migt not have kicked a ball, but he was treated as a threat by opposition defenders, regardless. Therefore doubled up on. Watched constantly. His distraction made others jobs easier. Notably providing space on the other side for SOD. Your second point is a loaded question and regardless of the answer allows blame to be pointed at the manager in some way or other. Not by me. im genuinely concerned that the players aren't following instructions to get forward, similar to how they did last season. Not always a conspiracy in each of my posts!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggyMad Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Think most of our opponents have Sussex our game plan, such as it is. Ipso facto,we urgently require an alternative to 1 up front, in every game. If nothing else it's souls destroying to see high balls been pumped up towards Doolam and Lawless: neither of whom I'd I,ago switch the best will in the world are what you would call big physician forwards. Personally, I"d drop Stevemson and try Sools and Muirhead upfront.. In addition we must get back to our passing game,, we simply don't have the players to play the traditional Rangers way. Your obsession/hatred with Rangers (as you need to mention them in every second post you make) you should really be on the Huddle forum. At this time when OUR team are struggling on the field of play, you still find it necessary to comments on them....gie it a bye, it's becoming sickening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Your obsession/hatred with Rangers (as you need to mention them in every second post you make) you should really be on the Huddle forum. At this time when OUR team are struggling on the field of play, you still find it necessary to comments on them....gie it a bye, it's becoming sickening. I totally agree with you. We should be discussing what's happening now and not delving into the history of a club that no longer exists. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted September 23, 2015 Members Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Seem to remember Higgy creating quite a few of our goals in the latter part of the season last time. I think we're missing him badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Seem to remember Higgy creating quite a few of our goals in the latter part of the season last time. I think we're missing him badly. Didn't he finish top or joint top of the SPFL assists chart last season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 We have been missing Higgy. We were probably over reliant on him for the past 2 seasons. It's important that Lawless, Stevenson, Muirhead and Amoo all step up to fill his void. Amoo is particular has been very disappointing. Unless he improves I can see him being moved on in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted September 23, 2015 Members Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Didn't he finish top or joint top of the SPFL assists chart last season? I think SOD was our op provider followed by Lawless then Higgy IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I think SOD was our op provider followed by Lawless then Higgy IIRC. Checked the figures out, and the top three were Ali Crawford with 10, Manley Watkins with 9 and Stevie L third alongside Adam Matthews (!!!!) with 8. Higgy was a distant 15th with 5. SOD was nowhere to be seen, which I guess is a function of who had the last touch before the actual goalscorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Scimmia Rossa Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Would take Paton back in a heartbeat To play where? In the office selling season tickets? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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