The Jukebox Rebel Posted August 29, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 ^ Ooft. Astounding Jaggy Factoids rocking the Thistle Nation on a bi-daily basis right now. Can these mind-boggling standards be maintained all the way to May? As Allyo was saying, the number nine is on his way to the all-time Top 5. While we're at it, think it's only right that from hereon we monitor the ascent of our new half-centurion, so here's the latest: PTFC Top 50 Competitive Scorers #1 - 227 - Willie Sharp (1940-1956) #2 - 127 - Willie Paul (1886-1900) #3 - 125 - George Smith (1954-1963) #4 - 118 - Jimmy Walker (1947-1953) #5 - 112 - Peter McKennan (1935-1947) #6 - 109 - John Torbet (1924-1933) #7 - 107 - Davie McParland (1954-1967) #7 - 107 - Kris Doolan (2009-2017) #9 - 101 - Willie Newall (1940-1945) #10 - 97 - John Wallace (1936-1945) #10 - 97 - Sandy Hair (1923-1928) #12 - 96 - Davie Ness (1923-1934) #13 - 93 - Neil Harris (1913-1920) #14 - 91 - Sam Kennedy (1902-1909) #15 - 83 - Dougie Somner (1974-1979) #16 - 82 - Alex Wright (1949-1961) #17 - 80 - Tommy Ewing (1955-1966) #18 - 79 - Alex Stott (1949-1953) #19 - 77 - Frank Coulston (1967-1974) #19 - 77 - Johnny Ballantyne (1921-1935) #21 - 76 - Denis McQuade (1970-1978) #22 - 74 - Jimmy Bone (1968-1972) #23 - 72 - Jimmy Kinloch (1920-1927) #23 - 72 - John Bowie (1915-1921) #25 - 70 - John Simpson (1928-1932) #26 - 68 - Willie O'Donnell (1945-1950) #27 - 67 - Neil Duffy (1960-1964) #28 - 63 - Bobby Grove (1923-1932) #29 - 62 - Willie Whittle (1914-1920) #30 - 61 - Joe Craig (1972-1976) #30 - 61 - Willie Salisbury (1918-1928) #32 - 60 - Tommy Rae (1965-1974) #33 - 56 - Jim Melrose (1976-1980) #33 - 56 - Maurice Johnston (1981-1983) #33 - 56 - Ronnie Glavin (1970-1974) #36 - 55 - Bobby Howitt (1949-1955) #37 - 54 - Willie Freebairn (1893-1900) #38 - 53 - Alex O'Hara (1977-1984) #38 - 53 - Jimmy Gibson (1921-1927) #38 - 53 - Kenny Watson (1980-1987) #41 - 52 - Frank Branscombe (1909-1917) #42 - 51 - Johnny MacKenzie (1948-1958) #43 - 50 - Chris Erskine (2009-2017) #43 - 50 - Jim Marshall (1911-1919) #45 - 48 - John Proudfoot (1894-1904) #46 - 46 - Mark Roberts (2005-2008) #47 - 45 - George Wyllie (1931-1936) #48 - 44 - Jimmy Davidson (1948-1959) #49 - 43 - Billy Hainey (1962-1966) #49 - 43 - Gerry Britton (1992-2004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 To put that in context, I've been regularly watching Thistle for over 30 years. Chris Erskine is very close to becoming Thistle's second top scorer in that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 I've seen 15 of the above list play for us and another one manage us in our league cup victory.Wonder if anybody in the future will be good enough or stay with us long enough to get into that list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenisOhDenis Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Auld Jag, you imposter. I can also claim the same 15 player and manager combination so I must be near enough the same age as you. Surely we are still young? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 I've seen 15 of the above list play for us and another one manage us in our league cup victory.Wonder if anybody in the future will be good enough or stay with us long enough to get into that list. Tall order. If they're good enough then they'd probably be offski. I'll make the rash prediction the next Jags player to get into that list will be Neil McLaughlin (Don't count of course but two more U20 goals tonight) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 Worth pointing out that a few of the players above Dools reached their final goal counts after several more years at Firhill than Dools has been there for. I wouldn't be surprised if Kris overtook 2 or 3 of them in the next few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I didn't realise Ronnie Glavin scored so many in a relatively short time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 TJR, Apologies if you've answered this before (certain you have) but how many competitive goals did Willie Sharp score post war? I think it likely that Dools will overtake Jimmy Walker and fairly likely, George Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted August 30, 2017 Members Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just counted, I've also been lucky enough to see 15 of those scorers! Ronnie Glavin was probably my first Jags hero! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter of '63 Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I didn't realise Ronnie Glavin scored so many in a relatively short time I think he was our top scorer for two or maybe even three successive seasons - then scored 35 for Celtic and 73 for Barnsley - not bad for a midfielder. Probably my all-time favourite Jag. I have seen 20 on the List of leading Goalscorers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just the 11 for a youngster like me. LIB, the number nine would need 145 to become outright Post-War (1945-46 onwards) #1. He's so steady and he keeps himself in good shape, so it's Doolable. I think he's a good bet to become our second highest scorer of all-time in competitive action. Little targets is the way to go for Kris - as it stands, he just needs one more League goal for the Premiership half-century. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Did Ronnie struggle at first to settle into life in the top-flight? Or maybe he had a deeper role? Only 2 goals in 1971-72 and then, bang, 18 in 1972-73 and 13 in 1973-74 to finish as top scorer 2 seasons-in-a-row as Winter of 63 says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Best thing about the half century stat, it really demonstrates how Kris has stepped up a level since coming into the Premier League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Best thing about the half century stat, it really demonstrates how Kris has stepped up a level since coming into the Premier League Kris is 3rd top scorer in current premier league history. Edited August 30, 2017 by Auld Jag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Auld Jag, you imposter. I can also claim the same 15 player and manager combination so I must be near enough the same age as you. Surely we are still young? ������ Denis i shall be 62 on my next birthday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 What counts as current Premier League history these days? SPL? SPFL? SPFLMNOP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just the 11 for a youngster like me. LIB, the number nine would need 145 to become outright Post-War (1945-46 onwards) #1. He's so steady and he keeps himself in good shape, so it's Doolable. I think he's a good bet to become our second highest scorer of all-time in competitive action. Little targets is the way to go for Kris - as it stands, he just needs one more League goal for the Premiership half-century. Thanks, TJR. Agree on the little targets as much from our own point of view. We really shouldn't be expecting too much from a guy now in his thirties. And we certainly shouldn't just be judging Dools on his goal return alone. He's too much of a team player with far more to his game. I do tho' believe he'll make 2nd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 What counts as current Premier League history these days? SPL? SPFL? SPFLMNOP? SPFL Premiership If everybody could use that from now on, that would be great 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted August 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Exactly. Then we'll get Maxi to nobble the SPFL for a name change as soon as Dools retires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenisOhDenis Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Slightly Aulder Jag, I must have started earlier than you. First game I can remember was against St Mirren in 1969, aged 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 I have seen 18 on the list that I recognise and one other - Billy Hainey that I don't remember but must have seen as he is in the same timeframe of when I started going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) I have seen 18 on the list that I recognise and one other - Billy Hainey that I don't remember but must have seen as he is in the same timeframe of when I started going Similar tho' I remember Hainey well enough. He was supposedly a suitable replacement for Joe McBride but was never quite so prolific a scorer. Slightly ashamed to say my No 19 was George Smith. Played in many a game I must have been at and no doubt scored the odd goal. George was at the end of his career and I assume I paid far more attention to players like Duffy and Hainey who scored regularly at the time. My Dad, tho' not a Jags fan, was forever telling me about guys like McKenzie, Kerr & Davidson but perhaps with George still playing he went under the radar. Edited August 30, 2017 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter of '63 Posted August 30, 2017 Report Share Posted August 30, 2017 Did Ronnie struggle at first to settle into life in the top-flight? Or maybe he had a deeper role? Only 2 goals in 1971-72 and then, bang, 18 in 1972-73 and 13 in 1973-74 to finish as top scorer 2 seasons-in-a-row as Winter of 63 says. Ronnie was originally a striker and made his first appearances in that role. He was only converted to a midfielder at the start of Season 1971-72 - one of the remarkable statistics of the League Cup winning side is that several players had only played about 10 games in their positions before the Final - in addition to Glavin, up to the beginning of that season John Hansen and Alex Forsyth had never played at full back and Jackie Campbell at centre half. Although an outstanding player, Ronnie was not seen as a goalscoring threat in that season. It was only after Jimmy Bone and Alex Forsyth were transferred that he become more of the focus of our attacking play...and he took over the penalties and free kicks from Forsyth. He really carried what was a team in decline for the next two seasons and only seemed to score spectacular goals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jukebox Rebel Posted August 31, 2017 Author Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Thanks for that Winter, nice wee jigsaw piece for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted August 31, 2017 Report Share Posted August 31, 2017 Similar tho' I remember Hainey well enough. He was supposedly a suitable replacement for Joe McBride but was never quite so prolific a scorer. Slightly ashamed to say my No 19 was George Smith. Played in many a game I must have been at and no doubt scored the odd goal. George was at the end of his career and I assume I paid far more attention to players like Duffy and Hainey who scored regularly at the time. My Dad, tho' not a Jags fan, was forever telling me about guys like McKenzie, Kerr & Davidson but perhaps with George still playing he went under the radar. I missed George Smith. I started going in 1963 or 1964, although I don't remember the winter when there were no games for 6 weeks. So he maybe stopped playing for us before I started going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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