elevenone Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, javeajag said: here you are .... I wonder how many of the question masters will actually go..., https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/an-evening-to-explore-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-fan-ownership/ Same night of a match, albeit Glasgow Cup vs Celtic Colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West of Scotland Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Here's a tip for the website operators: put the date the event is actually happening somewhere on the page, so you don't force people to have to click through to the EventBrite page just to discover when it is. No matter who is charge of the club, the official site remains atrocious in terms of the most basic UI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi Nurainen Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, javeajag said: Ok I was in that camp ...so factually can you explain 1. what did the consortium do ? to my knowledge they did nothing (!)except bid for 55% of the shares .... no statements , no plans , no fan engagement .... that was part of the problem 2. on what basis was there anything to say positively on the consortium bid ? there was no proposal circulated , no plan jj tried to pretend there was one but couldn’t provide it , No press statements ... literally nada 3 what was there to critique if no information was provided ? well I guess who were the consortium - which was never disclosed (!) except paul conway it later turned out chien lee was never involved , or we could look at their business track record except it wasn’t provided or we could look at Barnsley and when you did it was not good no coherent support for the consortium was ever put forward other than - they were business people as though that in its self meant anything as we all know there are all types of business people - they would run the club at a profit ... I never quite understood why that was intrinsically good as it’s just taking money out the club - they were a better option than fan ownership .... in my view they weren’t even though I’ve never been that keen on it we are now where we are and we need to make the best of it When you answer the points JJ made about the unknowns, I'll catch up with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Semi Nurainen said: When you answer the points JJ made about the unknowns, I'll catch up with this. No you wont because you can’t Edited December 11, 2019 by javeajag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi Nurainen Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, javeajag said: here you are .... I wonder how many of the question masters will actually go..., https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/an-evening-to-explore-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-of-fan-ownership/ As a Partick Thistle fan I will be going to the Glasgow Cup game to support my team. Even though it's a diddy competition, and clearly regarded as such by TFE and its adherents. Why anyone connected with the Club, and with 'the best interests of the CLub at heart' (boom! boom!) would organise a Q&A on a night which clashed with a competitive match truly passeth all understanding. If this is a taste of thing to come from TFE … mind you it is the sort of thing a failed 'communications expert' might do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi Nurainen Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, javeajag said: No you wont because you can’t And you haven't answered his either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Semi Nurainen said: When you answer the points JJ made about the unknowns, I'll catch up with this. Is it pedantic to point out that JJ didn't ask any questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi Nurainen Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 hours ago, dl1971 said: Constructive. Constructive? What, 'constructive' as in the way you slip in wee snide personal remarks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Semi Nurainen said: As a Partick Thistle fan I will be going to the Glasgow Cup game to support my team. Even though it's a diddy competition, and clearly regarded as such by TFE and its adherents. Why anyone connected with the Club, and with 'the best interests of the CLub at heart' (boom! boom!) would organise a Q&A on a night which clashed with a competitive match truly passeth all understanding. If this is a taste of thing to come from TFE … mind you it is the sort of thing a failed 'communications expert' might do. You really are funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi Nurainen Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, allyo said: Is it pedantic to point out that JJ didn't ask any questions? No you're right Polyanna, he just pointed out that there were a whole series of unknowns that he 'invited someone to answer'. But nobody did. Inviting some to give an answer is definitely not the same thing as asking question, not no time not ever, could it ever remotely be interpreted as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Semi Nurainen said: No you're right Polyanna, he just pointed out that there were a whole series of unknowns that he 'invited someone to answer'. But nobody did. Inviting some to give an answer is definitely not the same thing as asking question, not no time not ever, could it ever remotely be interpreted as such. I think I invited him to ask those questions to someone who could answer them which is nit anyone here byt since he knows Alan heron he could do that directly with him but chooses not to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Semi Nurainen said: No you're right Polyanna, he just pointed out that there were a whole series of unknowns that he 'invited someone to answer'. But nobody did. Inviting some to give an answer is definitely not the same thing as asking question, not no time not ever, could it ever remotely be interpreted as such. But I didn't see an invitation to give an answer either. I may be missing something. Like I'm missing your informed connections between Javeajag, Jacqui Low, TFE, etc etc. To be honest you've got me confused. The Polyanna thing doesn't really equate with my statement that I'm nervous about how fan ownership will pan out. I'm thinking you just like being rude to people online. Edited December 11, 2019 by allyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, allyo said: But I didn't see an invitation to give an answer either. I may be missing something. Like I'm missing your informed connections between Javeajag, Jacqui Low, TFE, etc etc. To be honest you've got me confused. The Polyanna thing doesn't really equate with my statement that I'm nervous about how fan ownership will pan out. I'm thinking you just like being rude to people online. And to clarify .... I’ve never met Jacqui low ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, javeajag said: And to clarify .... I’ve never met Jacqui low ! Aye right Jacqui Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Norgethistle said: Myself and 2 companions from Stirling Albion I've asked this before and haven't been able to get an answer but just what did happen at Stirling Albion.? Was the fans' takeover a disater? It was about ten years ago, I believe, so what has gone wrong? Can you point to anything which could enlighten us as I believe all information will be helpful if we've to make our minds up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, allyo said: Aye right Jacqui Eh ? im not Jacqui low i don’t know Jacqui low I’ve never met Jacqui low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, allyo said: Aye right Jacqui Isn't javeajag an anagram of Jacqui Low with some letters missed out and a few more put in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Just now, scotty said: Isn't javeajag an anagram of Jacqui Low with some letters missed out and a few more put in? Nope it’s a place in Spain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, scotty said: I've asked this before and haven't been able to get an answer but just what did happen at Stirling Albion.? Was the fans' takeover a disater? It was about ten years ago, I believe, so what has gone wrong? Can you point to anything which could enlighten us as I believe all information will be helpful if we've to make our minds up. I too know very little about it. I did hear the current Stirling Albion chairman on the radio last week, emphasising the challenges of fan ownership, but expressing his gratitude to the people who supported them in making it a possibility. I think he specifically mentioned Paul Goodwin, but I'm not 100% on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, javeajag said: Nope it’s a place in Spain You got a nice villa there Jacqui? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, allyo said: You got a nice villa there Jacqui? As it happens I do .... no idea about her ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, javeajag said: As it happens I do .... no idea about her ! Lucky you. Sure it would be nicer than here at this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, allyo said: Lucky you. Sure it would be nicer than here at this time of year. 20 degrees..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 47 minutes ago, Semi Nurainen said: As a Partick Thistle fan I will be going to the Glasgow Cup game to support my team. Even though it's a diddy competition, and clearly regarded as such by TFE and its adherents. Why anyone connected with the Club, and with 'the best interests of the CLub at heart' (boom! boom!) would organise a Q&A on a night which clashed with a competitive match truly passeth all understanding. If this is a taste of thing to come from TFE … mind you it is the sort of thing a failed 'communications expert' might do. Any idea of where this is being played would help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, scotty said: I've asked this before and haven't been able to get an answer but just what did happen at Stirling Albion.? Was the fans' takeover a disater? It was about ten years ago, I believe, so what has gone wrong? Can you point to anything which could enlighten us as I believe all information will be helpful if we've to make our minds up. Have a read at their supporters forum on FB or their fans comments on our page on P&B to work it out for yourself or even read the Pars fans views on him getting involved with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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