London Exile Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22560806 Love the comment about this being part of the SPL plan to share the wealth...send an SPL club down to Div 3 each season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 For purely selfish reasons I hope they dont into admin till after the SPL finishes: Starting off with a 17 points deduction makes it harder for them next season and gives teams like us an advantage. Financially Hearts would bring a bigger support to Firhill than Dundee Dundee United will have slightly less money to try and steal our players if there is no Dundee Derby next season. We wont have a chance of getting Harkins signed if Dundee 'six pence in the pound' stay up because of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartanjag Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Last year when a team went tits up Dunfermline were still relegated, Hope for Moore and his Greenock jakies yet #wegotthis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Last year when a team went tits up Dunfermline were still relegated, Hope for Moore and his Greenock jakies yet #wegotthis It's not the same though, it isn't Hearts going bust, it's Hearts getting a points deduction for breaking the rules. How concrete is this 17-point deduction? If there aren't set points deductions in place for entering administration (or is that just the SFL?) then how come there is one for the parent company becoming insolvent? I find it hard to see the SPL punishing a team like Hearts with relegation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Devil's Point Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 I was a resident of Gorgie and Dalry for some years in the nineties Saw a lot of games at the previous version of Tynecastle, and admit to enjoying some cracking games against the old firm and in Europe (the victory against Bologna stands out). Never, ever, supported them against Jags obviously and I've never had a conflict about who my team are. However, I suppose it hits a nerve to see them going down, just like I felt sorry for Dunfermline. These are both great football clubs, not like Rangers who we all know are not just a football club at all. In the interest of honesty I will say that the racism and sectarianism I witnessed on the old terraces of Tynecastle were as bad as anything I've ever seen from the old firm. But Hearts have never prided themselves, or cashed in on that nonsense. I think they have been sold down the river. In the November of 1914, the entire Hearts team signed up for the war. Seven first team players lost their lives and there is a monument at Haymarket that remembers that. I've still never seen a better striker, in the box, than John Roberston in his prime. Oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 I guess our sporting hacks will yet again be giving the word "consortium" its regular Tinycastle dusting down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peagreenboy Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Amazing. No-one's written "f**k them" yet. That's usually the first thing that comes out about any team in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 I actually hate the tarts, and too many of their supporters. So, f**k them. They'll survive in one form of bottom-feeder life or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fredthecheesecloth Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 For purely selfish reasons I hope they dont into admin till after the SPL finishes: Starting off with a 17 points deduction makes it harder for them next season and gives teams like us an advantage. Financially Hearts would bring a bigger support to Firhill than Dundee Dundee United will have slightly less money to try and steal our players if there is no Dundee Derby next season. We wont have a chance of getting Harkins signed if Dundee 'six pence in the pound' stay up because of this Why should he sign for Partick 'forty pence in the pound' then? Should he not sign for a club who has completely avoided screwing creditors? Say Inverness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 A good Hearts these days, is hard to find... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Devil's Point Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 A good Hearts these days, is hard to find... That is woeful. 0 out of 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 That is woeful. 0 out of 10. It was Par for the course for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Last year when a team went tits up Dunfermline were still relegated, Hope for Moore and his Greenock jakies yet #wegotthis Morton's ground is not SPL compliant, whereas Dundee's is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Devil's Point Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 It was Par for the course for me Unfortunately Hearts found an Albatross in Rominov What's the point of this smiley - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Unfortunately Hearts found an Albatross in Rominov What's the point of this smiley - Suits Romanov, imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 A Celtic fan at my work always said 'at least with the h*ns you know what you're getting, but they Hearts Bstards are h*ns is disguise, in fact they are worse!h*ns without the bus fare! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SussexJag Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Agree with Devils Point - not just cos hes my pal! Hearts are a proper club never mind a few neds who think theyre the old firm - every jambo ive met loves scotland fir a start. As DP says the travesty is romanov - and fans naivety that these people give a donald duck after the ego trip and realisation that football does not bring orifit wuthout an international brand. They dont and they leave a car crash behind them - portsmouth are a great example. The silver lining coukd be that clubs end up with sensible boards, running on fans / community input, being prudent, being realustic - hmm ring any bells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggybunnet Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Agree with Devils Point - not just cos hes my pal! Hearts are a proper club never mind a few neds who think theyre the old firm - every jambo ive met loves scotland fir a start. As DP says the travesty is romanov - and fans naivety that these people give a donald duck after the ego trip and realisation that football does not bring orifit wuthout an international brand. They dont and they leave a car crash behind them - portsmouth are a great example. The silver lining coukd be that clubs end up with sensible boards, running on fans / community input, being prudent, being realustic - hmm ring any bells? some would say they would have gone years ago without him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Suits Romanov, imo Though some of the stuff he used to say about the SFA and the OF turned out to be true, didn't it. Though if you say enough outrageous things .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Why should he sign for Partick 'forty pence in the pound' then? Should he not sign for a club who has completely avoided screwing creditors? Say Inverness? They are far from innocent - accused of murdering Cachnacuddin and also disliked by Elgin City fans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 Though some of the stuff he used to say about the SFA and the OF turned out to be true, didn't it. Though if you say enough outrageous things .... I'm sure he made valid points but the style with which he said them dulled his argument a bit. Maybe he should have focussed on running his own club, in hindsight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stevenson Posted May 16, 2013 Report Share Posted May 16, 2013 I'm sure he made valid points but the style with which he said them dulled his argument a bit. Maybe he should have focussed on running his own club, in hindsight He did. Into the ground, in the same way that he did all his other businesses. Hooray for klepto-capitalism..;.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 They are far from innocent - accused of murdering Cachnacuddin and also disliked by Elgin City fans[/b] Who the "L" are Clachnacuddin? Maybe this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 SPL looking at this next Monday. If UBIG are put into administration today, then probably Hearts will lose points for this season, so Dundee will survive. Interesting few days ahead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunnylaw Jag Posted May 17, 2013 Report Share Posted May 17, 2013 I find it bizarre though that there's still talk in the papers of Hearts maybe signing David Goodwillie and giving a new contract to Andy Webster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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