jagfox Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Some interesting points. So reading between lines away fans will be in the corner of the JHS stand unless we are playing the Jungles or any match anticipated to have a large support? It's a health and safety issue and the club/Beattie has a duty of care to everyone in the ground? So its ok for us but not for the rapscallions amongst the away support? Then the bit at the end was just missing the term "cuddly-toy" Time for some clarity so we can all enjoy the start to our SPFL campaign. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p12tfc Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 The big decision is the first game v dundee united. If they get the north stand then that sets the standard for the rest of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Or 3) - Non-Celtic away fans in a segregated north stand. I don't think that would be a goer. In any case it would surely be defeating the purpose of having our fans in the north Stand in the first place.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weebaldie Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 (edited) Perhaps we all got caught up in the euphoria of promotion. The club, while desperate to get season ticket funding in ASAP, should have clarified the situation earlier regarding the intended use of each stand but to be fair, the scum behaviour at the U17 Cup Final occurred after the club began preparing for selling season tickets. Since then, flares & smoke bombs have only become a serious issue, highlighted by the media, and the Police no doubt have to be seen to be extra cautious regarding public safety. Firhill, the venue is now being unfairly considered problematic rather than the activities of the 'customers' on that particular night. Have 'THE CELTIC FOOTBALL CLUB' or SEVCO yet made any comment on their mobs setting off flares & smoke bombs? The new SPFL should immediately bring in a rule that If ANY fans set them off, their team will play their next home game behind closed doors. It always seems to be the case that whenever anything good happens to the club, it's alway countered by some issue outwith the club's control. The use of the North Stand for Home fans was inspirational last year but it's unfortunate that due to the layout of the stadium and access routes, the Police now won't allow it for certain matches. Edited June 22, 2013 by weebaldie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Stevenson Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 A lot of that article makes no sense whatsoever. We can burn in the main stand but away fans have to be protected.....? And as pointed out, it completely contradicts the Club statement on the website. I also don't believe our debt was anywhere near £3M anytime since Save the Jags (and it wasn't £3M even then). After we had tumbled down the Divisions and built up annual consistent losses, I'm sure the debt was stated at a figure more akin to half that and that figure was about halved by the Propco deal. If it is down again, then that IS good news, but given the rest of the article, I'm not sure what to believe. I heard that our PR guru had left the Club. Seems to be true given the recent poor PR........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin energy Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 I was led to believe our debt was £1M less than a year ago ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestreets Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Here we go again. As soon as the club decide something that doesn't suit some fans we hear the same old shite - "We're being treated appallingly", "Only Thistle would do this", "The board take the fans for granted", "They're only in it for themselves", "They're ripping us off". And then, "I'm not buying a season ticket", "I'm boycotting..." enter as appropriate, "They're not getting my money" and on ad infinitum. Sometimes it's just what it appears to be - some folk just doing there best for the club as they see it. Fck sake,chill out, eh? Here we go again. As soon as the club decide something that doesn't suit some fans we hear the same old shite - "We're being treated appallingly", "Only Thistle would do this", "The board take the fans for granted", "They're only in it for themselves", "They're ripping us off". And then, "I'm not buying a season ticket", "I'm boycotting..." enter as appropriate, "They're not getting my money" and on ad infinitum. Sometimes it's just what it appears to be - some folk just doing there best for the club as they see it. Fck sake,chill out, eh? WELL SAID.. lets enjoy the achievements so far and see where we end up.. sick of people on here digging up sh*t about Sevco and Celtic in the stadium and propco or whatever... support the team these guys have an hard enough job without the negative stuff on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 A lot of that article makes no sense whatsoever. We can burn in the main stand but away fans have to be protected.....? And as pointed out, it completely contradicts the Club statement on the website. I also don't believe our debt was anywhere near £3M anytime since Save the Jags (and it wasn't £3M even then). After we had tumbled down the Divisions and built up annual consistent losses, I'm sure the debt was stated at a figure more akin to half that and that figure was about halved by the Propco deal. If it is down again, then that IS good news, but given the rest of the article, I'm not sure what to believe. I heard that our PR guru had left the Club. Seems to be true given the recent poor PR........ £1.5m was my recollection too. Mr Beattie seems to have got his facts wrong on that and other matters. If the main stand is too dangerous for away fans, it's too dangerous for home fans too and should not have a safety certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brick_top Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Agreed I think Beattie has done a good job since taking over. It's a difficult balancing act I'm sure and he won't always get it right. I believe he's got the interests of the club at heart (possibly aswell as his own, but there's nothing wrong with that I suppose) and as has been said, compared to other chairmen, both of other clubs and our own, over the last ten years he's been a godsend. Exactly what we needed at the right time. Thanks David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantB Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Think there has been a bit of journalistic licence taken with that piece. Don't remember our debt ever being £3M and Beattie said at the meet the board night a couple of seasons back that our debt was less than £500K and would have been paid off in full but for the bank putting penalty clauses in place for early repayment. I hope the same journalistic licence has been applied to the away fans. I would be absolutely gutted to hear that we have given it back to away fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One t in Scotland Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Does anybody still read The Record?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G SUS Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Beattie said at the meet the board night a couple of seasons back Was there not another one of those planned for this off-season? Hoping it's something that will still be going ahead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Think there has been a bit of journalistic licence taken with that piece. Don't remember our debt ever being £3M and Beattie said at the meet the board night a couple of seasons back that our debt was less than £500K and would have been paid off in full but for the bank putting penalty clauses in place for early repayment. I hope the same journalistic licence has been applied to the away fans. I would be absolutely gutted to hear that we have given it back to away fans. When David came on to the Board the debt was in the £1.5M region. At the Open Meeting in September 2011 the debt figure was given as £600K and it was stated the club were planning to reduce it by £200K over the next 4 years (£50K per year) which means we are on track with that plan. Personally I hope we can reduce the debt faster now we are in the SPL although I appreciate some people will want to see additional funds going to the playing side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G SUS Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Personally I hope we can reduce the debt faster now we are in the SPL although I appreciate some people will want to see additional funds going to the playing side. Is the issue not the massive penalty clauses for paying it off early? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Does anybody still read The Record?? Real Scots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Is the issue not the massive penalty clauses for paying it off early? I believe there is a fee (in the region of £150,000 I think) due when we pay off what we owe to the bank but the sooner we can get ourselves debt free the better in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Real Scots. :confused1: I prefer the Beano myself. Higher intellectual level altogether and better coverage of current events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rid Skwerr Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 :confused1: I prefer the Beano myself. Higher intellectual level altogether and better coverage of current events. ..also more words and less pictures...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SussexJag Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 WELL SAID.. lets enjoy the achievements so far and see where we end up.. sick of people on here digging up sh*t about Sevco and Celtic in the stadium and propco or whatever... support the team these guys have an hard enough job without the negative stuff on here Agreed. Some folk will always slag the Board whatever happens - not worth listening to. The current lot seem to me to have few equals - they have made goodanagerial appointments, signed players at the right times, provided a number of onitiativrs that have put the fans at the centre of what is happening, improved our youth set up, paid down lots of debt, and we're back in the SPL as a result, to a latge extent thanks tp their efforts. So when i read folk getting angry (or probably just pretending to as no lifers tend to) i think it's really sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel G Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Doing a good job over the piece. OK there's the odd hiccup but overall reducing the debt, good managerial appointments and trying to engage with the fans is like night and day compared to the last 30 years. Get aff the mans back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter of '63 Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Mr Beattie's reported comments do rather read like an apology to Celtic fans - I would rather we made the position clear which is that special arrangements have to be made because of fears about their behaviour. We should be condemning this and raising questions about whether they are welcome at our ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Real Scots. :confused1: I prefer the Beano myself. Higher intellectual level altogether and better coverage of current events. ..also more words and less pictures...... It's alright, Charlie, I got it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool Jags Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 I believe there is a fee (in the region of £150,000 I think) due when we pay off what we owe to the bank but the sooner we can get ourselves debt free the better in my opinion. Typical banks: fecked if you pay them and fecked if you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 It's alright, Charlie, I got it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 This thread was meant to be uplifting and encouraging , I think theres too many grumpy old men here !! or else maybe even worse , grumpy young men , who will never see the positive side to anything !!! The board deserve a huge vote of confidence as do all at Firhill !! Don't necessarily disagree with you but think you are being a bit of a hypocrite here. I remember you telling us that Archie wasn't the right man for the job after taking 7 points from his first 3 games. So be careful before jumping on your high horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.