Fearchar Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Why is the team so poor at retaining possession from (our own) throw-ins? It seems that few of the players move about to look for the ball, and very few are the usual targets - particularly Lawless, who can be muscled off the ball, and Elliott (when fit and playing, obviously), who sends the ball on with a glancing header. In the past, Simon Donnelly used to be the target for throw-ins, but since his departure I think throw-ins have very often provided opportunities for the opposition to win possession, rather than for us to retain it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 It's not just a Thistle problem. Throw ins are becoming very difficult for a side to maintain possession, with the ball coming from over head hight, the receiver needs to get the ball under control, usually with a defender hard on him and giving a push or pull that referees seem very lenient to punish these days. Watch any Engish Premier League match and throw-in possesion is very rarely held cleanly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 If professional footballers cannot take a decent throw in they ought to chuck it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThickAsThieves Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 If professional footballers cannot take a decent throw in they ought to chuck it. I'm sure that'd be a foul throw. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 In the hands of someone like Dave Challinor throw ins can be very effective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sons of Somner Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 I've had a beef with our throw ins for a long time now. Why do we always seem to throw the ball to a teammate at bollock height? Same category as corners and free kicks that don't go past the first defender. Infuriating. Do these things really need to be covered in training by grown men? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlgarveJag Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 I've had a beef with our throw ins for a long time now. Why do we always seem to throw the ball to a teammate at bollock height? Same category as corners and free kicks that don't go past the first defender. Infuriating. Do these things really need to be covered in training by grown men? Yes, I guess they do... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopeless Unbeliever Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 Bring back Peter Lindau. Not sure I ever saw that man fail to control a throw-in and maintain possession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted September 10, 2015 Report Share Posted September 10, 2015 (edited) Why do players (especially full/wing backs who generally take most of he shies) not spend more time perfecting their long throw technique? It seems to me to be something which with time and practice any player could emerge with reasonable proficiency. It could be the difference between being in or out of the team. Rory Delap was a decent player but may not have been a regular Premiership starter without his long throw prowess. The honourable history includes Steven Craigan's long throw which led to Toastie Burns scoring the vital late equaliser keeping us well clear of Airdrie in the run up to our last but one promotion to the Premier League. Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that our only long throw this season was nodded on by Pogba to Sean Welsh who forced an excellent save from the Aberdeen goalie. A neglected weapon when we need to call into play every ounce of firepower we can muster? Edited September 11, 2015 by partickthedog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veejag Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Had Craigan not been taken off by the time of the equaliser at Airdrie that day? He did land one directly onto BMMMH's napper against ICT that season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunnylaw Jag Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 I think it all went wrong when we stopped calling them shys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancipital Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Wait til we play St Johnstone if Shaughnessy is playing, like Stoke under Pulis especially with Sutton up front. They weren't exactly easy on the eye before but even less so now. From a thistle point of view, SOD developed his throw ins to the point they were reasonable by the tail end of last season, including his 1-2 with Scott Boyd to score at Dingwall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Had Craigan not been taken off by the time of the equaliser at Airdrie that day? He did land one directly onto BMMMH's napper against ICT that season. The following season, Craigan's long throw at Tannadice led to a headed equaliser by Ricky Waddell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The optimist Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Thistle actually employed a throw in coach last year believe it or not, developing long throws. I think you could see the improvement, especially on O'donnells long throws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Just knowing that a player taking a throw in is capable of length is a threat in itself. Since Craigan I can think of only SOD (latterly), Maxie and McGowan that could throw at distance. McGowan made his debut at Central Park, probably the narrowest playing surface. If he'd thrown in as far as he's capable of the ball would've carried the entire width of the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted September 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 It's not just a Thistle problem. Throw ins are becoming very difficult for a side to maintain possession, with the ball coming from over head hight, the receiver needs to get the ball under control, usually with a defender hard on him and giving a push or pull that referees seem very lenient to punish these days. Watch any Engish Premier League match and throw-in possesion is very rarely held cleanly. But does the ball have to come in at over head height? It should surely be possible for the thrower to deliver the ball in the way best suited to the recipient, and for the recipient to ensure he's in a position to shield the ball or send it on purposefully. My impression is that our opposition are all better at retaining possession from throw-ins, and that it's as much to do with who receives the ball from the throw-in as with the player throwing in. That's not necessarily anything to do with the length of throw-ins, although increased range adds to the possibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 As throws in are fairly ineffectual, players don't mind kicking the ball out. It really slows the game down. Replace shys with indirect free kicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 The following season, Craigan's long throw at Tannadice led to a headed equaliser by Ricky Waddell. Blast from the past there. I had no idea that he had scored once, only to find that he scored 2 in 23 games and is now a coach at Ibrox (I had no idea they were that desperate). Quite a well traveled career with time in Singapore and USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted September 11, 2015 Report Share Posted September 11, 2015 Did Twaddle have a decent long throw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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