Andynptfc Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 I'm not really sure what people expect Mair to have done for the equaliser. If he had moved towards where the ball was coming from, it would have gone over his head. Sutton earned himself an advantage by peeling off to the back, thus allowing him to get a run at the ball coming in. The error in that goal was allowing the cross to be made in the first place. Is that not the definition of "ball watching" then? I like mair and feel he's done a pretty good job since coming in, but if the guy he's marking peels off him, as you said, should he not go with him? He would know that if Sutton has got a run on him for a header he's likely to get beaten so if he goes with him he at least has the chance to put him off, hold him or something. Things that other centre halfs do to our strikers in the box. As it is he has a free run, Mairs caught on his heels slightly and well....we know what happened next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted February 17, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 For me the problem all season long has been in central defence. Archie perhaps thought that Conrad and Aero could cut it at the higher level and given how well they played for most of last season, that was not an unreasonable assumption. In fact they started the season off pretty well. Then the errors started to creep in. It was pretty clear by December that the young players at the back needed some experienced help. The January window is not an ideal time to try and resolve this type of problem and the best we got was Mair. He has helped a lot, but like every other defender in the world, he can make mistakes too. Like it or not, we are still very soft through the centre and I don't think we've seen the last of the type of goals we lose when teams bombard us aerially this season. I do think also, that all 3 of the young central defenders we have, will go on and have long relatively successful careers in football and I'd love it if it was to be mainly with Partick Thistle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted February 17, 2014 Members Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 Is that not the definition of "ball watching" then? I like mair and feel he's done a pretty good job since coming in, but if the guy he's marking peels off him, as you said, should he not go with him? He would know that if Sutton has got a run on him for a header he's likely to get beaten so if he goes with him he at least has the chance to put him off, hold him or something. Things that other centre halfs do to our strikers in the box. As it is he has a free run, Mairs caught on his heels slightly and well....we know what happened next It's a gamble. You go with the guy and someone else drifts into the space and you're asking where your Centre half is. Conrad is already out of position because he has tried to stop the ball going for a corner and done nothing other than keep it in for the winger to make the cross. Mair is caught between a rock and a hard place with this one as I see it. Once Motherwell had the ball it was a superb execution by them rather than a mistake by us that caused the goal. Perfect cross and a perfectly timed run and header. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistlenowthistleforever Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 For a manager who was a defender our defence is utter pish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 17, 2014 Report Share Posted February 17, 2014 For a manager who was a defender our defence is utter pish Ah, you're back 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrybritton9 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 PTFC 3 - Hibs 1 says it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peagreenboy Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) PTFC 3 - Hibs 1 says it all Aye, he definitely should get booted out the door. edit: you mean Terry Butcher, right? Edited March 15, 2014 by peagreenboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 two homes wins, and the first back back wins all season, It just isn't good enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 two homes wins, and the first back back wins all season, It just isn't good enough! back to back wins? we drew our last game, unless you mean back to back home wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 back to back wins? we drew our last game, unless you mean back to back home wins Yeah I made a chunt of that. Forgot about Dingwall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 The team, tactics,performance and spirit today luckily had nothing to do with the manager... With the resources Hearts have at their disposal a truly remarkable performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 The team, tactics,performance and spirit today luckily had nothing to do with the manager... With the resources Hearts have at their disposal a truly remarkable performance So much for you closing your account??? :lol: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 The team, tactics,performance and spirit today luckily had nothing to do with the manager... With the resources Hearts have at their disposal a truly remarkable performance Away back in your hole, you never post when we win 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Away back in your hole, you never post when we win It's a forum .. . But say something positive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 It's a forum .. . But say something positive You never say anything positive. practice what you preach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 It's a forum .. . But say something positive I (and many others) praise when needed and criticize when its due........... but you only pop out from under your rock when we're beat, you thrive on failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 You never say anything positive. practice what you preach? We played well for 20 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I (and many others) praise when needed and criticize when its due........... but you only pop out from under your rock when we're beat, you thrive on failure I hate failure and I hate the performance today because I care about the club I don't think trying to turn a negative into a positive is helpful But enough about me ? What about today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I hate failure and I hate the performance today because I care about the club I don't think trying to turn a negative into a positive is helpful But enough about me ? What about today ? But you are NEVER positive when things are good, are you? As Norgethistle says, jump back into your hole that you should have went to when you said you were quitting the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 You see guys this is a forum but you don't want people to post unless it's things you agree with .... Slightly fascist I think but shy not set up your forum ? Comments on today ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peagreenboy Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 I hate failure and I hate the performance today because I care about the club I don't think trying to turn a negative into a positive is helpful But enough about me ? What about today ? You are the premier negative ninny who only comes out of the woodwork when things are sour. How does one become an anti-glory hunter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Your Fascism is that your opinion is the only opinion allowed. What about you closing your account then? Or is that your usual pish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 You are the premier negative ninny who only comes out of the woodwork when things are sour. How does one become an anti-glory hunter? And today's performance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted April 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 Your Fascism is that your opinion is the only opinion allowed. What about you closing your account then? Or is that your usual pish? I emailed admin and they didn't do it. - fact And today's performance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted April 5, 2014 Report Share Posted April 5, 2014 You see guys this is a forum but you don't want people to post unless it's things you agree with It's been like that for ages. There's no point in threads like this. You get the usual suspects, who don't even go to the games coming on and spamming any valid points. Archie got it wrong today again. Tactically outmanoeuvred by Yogi Hughes and Gary Locke in the space of 3 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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