Firhillista Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Unfortunately, I don't know how to post a link to the Herald article about Ainsworth's reaction to the Lawless goal on Tuesday night. Apparently, it was the view of his manager and the 'experienced' players that his failure to cover Lawless had cost them the game. He was reduced to tears because it was made clear to him by his team mates and his manager that it was all down to him. Nothing to do with the team selection, tactics, on-field behaviour, inability to score or anything else. Just him. What a load of crap! Very convenient for McGhee and the other Motherwell players to blame one guy for their failings. I wouldn't normally give a toss about what happens at other clubs, but this is totally out of order. If I was a Motherwell fan this morning, I'd be calling for McGhee to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunnylaw Jag Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 People have short memories, most of the time Ainsworth plays against us, he does the damage the other way about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=scapegoat%20definition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I'm pretty sure the Motherwell defender hoofing the ball back to us to attack again and then one making a complete hash of his header away are just as at fault as ainsworth for momentarily switching off. And McGhee for making some bizarre tactical decisions and settling for the draw from what I heard on radio commentary. When's ainsworth's contract up? I'd take him at Firhill if McGhee thinks he's so shite.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Ainsworth was at fault for the goal and his manager isn't doing his job if he doesn't tell him that. The fact that he is openly greeting in the press room is an embarrassment. Get a grip of yourself mate. Not exactly captain material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancipital Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 If anyone was at fault for the goal it was McManus with his 50p head clearance away, even then it was a deflection, it's not exactly Jordan McGhee for Hearts vs Aberdeen level of culpability. I'd be disappointed in Archie if he flung someone under the bus like McGhee has done with Ainsworth by blaming him individually then sending him out to meet the press, seems very old school, sort of thing Lambie would have done 20 years ago. As Archie says himself, the game has changed so I'd like to think had something similar happened up the other end on Tuesday then we'd have dealt with it in the media differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firhillista Posted February 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Ainsworth was at fault for the goal and his manager isn't doing his job if he doesn't tell him that. The fact that he is openly greeting in the press room is an embarrassment. Get a grip of yourself mate. Not exactly captain material. Don't they deliver milk of human kindness in Wyndford? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 They do, but it doesn't extend to football. I'm actually in Garnethill now anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 The online Scotsman coverage of this manages to bring up in the same article the time Ronaldinho chipped Seaman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 The online Scotsman coverage of this manages to bring up in the same article the time Ronaldinho chipped Seaman "Ronaldinho lobs Seaman from 50 yards!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewinGumMacaroonBaaaz Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Bit harsh on the guy.... I mean Wee Stevie is obviously the love child of Albert Craig and Carol Vorderman. Ghosted past his man and calculated those angles for the deflection in an instant. .... Anyhoo Marko huve ye no' heard... "We're Partick Thistle ... We score when we want!!!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 he signed a 2 year deal in june 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 If McGhee thinks Ainsworth is so terrible I'd be more than happy for Thistle to take him off Motherwell's hands should Stevie Lawless decline to extend his contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Earl of Hathaway Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 I think the term for what has happened to Ainsworth is ' hung out to dry' . If any of our bosses turned round and said 'see that bad performance? That's down to you.', and then the rest of the staff joined in and agreed, I think most of us would be looking up the number of an employment lawyer. It's called bullying, and however much McGhee may see it as a motivational technique, it's taken quite seriously by most employers these days. I dare say a lot of it goes on in football behind closed doors - masquerading as 'character building' but it's the 21st century and really this type of managemnt behaviour should have gone out the widow with running up sand dunes till you puke. Be interesting to see the spirit of 'togetherness' displayed by the Motherwell team against Inverness.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Ainsworth was at fault for the goal and his manager isn't doing his job if he doesn't tell him that. The fact that he is openly greeting in the press room is an embarrassment. Get a grip of yourself mate. Not exactly captain material. Got to disagree Ian Mac , you don't hang players out to dry in public , think it's called man management and an experienced manager like McGhee should know better. It's a team game and you win and lose together , I'm sure Ainsworth has won many games with assists and goals .The most recent example was Mourinho at Chelsea who publicly criticised his players with the outcome that the players downed tools and stopped playing for him, let's hope the same happens to McGhee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Got to disagree Ian Mac , you don't hang players out to dry in public , think it's called man management and an experienced manager like McGhee should know better. It's a team game and you win and lose together , I'm sure Ainsworth has won many games with assists and goals . The most recent example was Mourinho at Chelsea who publicly criticised his players with the outcome that the players downed tools and stopped playing for him, let's hope the same happens to McGhee. I think the problem is McGhee's "management style", which apparently requires belief in his own infallibility. Thus when something goes wrong someone else will inevitably always be at fault. After all wasn't he telling us but for a bad turn of luck he could've been manager of Liverpool? Even if he is so obviously deluded he appears honest as witnessed by his "never a penalty" comment. Strange fella. Edited February 4, 2016 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancipital Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 He has previous http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/aberdeen-boss-mark-mcghee-blames-1068658 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglemon Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 Got a lot of sympathy for Ainsworth. It was a lucky goal and 999 times out of a 1000 his lapse would have meant nada. McGee is a dick. Makes Archie's gaff free tenure all the more impressive. Don't understand why he's never quoted for other jobs- the media don't rate him at all when he's been improving all the time as far as I can see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 He has previous http://www.dailyreco...-blames-1068658 McGhee comes across as a sad, deflecting bully in that article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Got a lot of sympathy for Ainsworth. It was a lucky goal and 999 times out of a 1000 his lapse would have meant nada. McGee is a dick. Makes Archie's gaff free tenure all the more impressive. Don't understand why he's never quoted for other jobs- the media don't rate him at all when he's been improving all the time as far as I can see. It's good news for us if that continues. I think the reason is a mixture of things: we're a club that aren't quoted much; Archie has developed things slow and steadily - no outstanding results (just lots of good ones). I think if we had quickly gotten a top six place or got to a cup final Archie would probably be away by now. I suppose if he continues to be a good, steady manager, improving our team year on year, someone is bound to come in for him. Maybe teams so far that have needed a manager have seen him as a slow steady builder rather than someone who can give a quick fix. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dan Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I played hockey for around 35 years, coached teams as well as being captain on numerous occasions. Hanging an individual out out to dry for a defeat does absolutely nothing for the players confidence or ability. Team spirit can be completely destroyed with players waiting to see who the next target will be. Any player making a mistake that costs a goal or a match by their mistake should feel bad enough themselves without being hung out to dry, if the mistake does not bother them then the manager should consider whether to select him in the future. The easy option for any manager is to pick a scapegoat for a defeat rather than look at the total performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I played hockey for around 35 years, coached teams as well as being captain on numerous occasions. Hanging an individual out out to dry for a defeat does absolutely nothing for the players confidence or ability. Team spirit can be completely destroyed with players waiting to see who the next target will be. Any player making a mistake that costs a goal or a match by their mistake should feel bad enough themselves without being hung out to dry, if the mistake does not bother them then the manager should consider whether to select him in the future. The easy option for any manager is to pick a scapegoat for a defeat rather than look at the total performance. Wise words. You should run a training course for managers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 From what I see it is the poor headed clearance which went straight to Lawless that was the cause. If it was better directed, Ainsworth would have been clear of Lawless and in with a chance to run the length of the pitch. I think that McGhee has dropped one on this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 I played hockey for around 35 years, coached teams as well as being captain on numerous occasions. Hanging an individual out out to dry for a defeat does absolutely nothing for the players confidence or ability. Team spirit can be completely destroyed with players waiting to see who the next target will be. Any player making a mistake that costs a goal or a match by their mistake should feel bad enough themselves without being hung out to dry, if the mistake does not bother them then the manager should consider whether to select him in the future. The easy option for any manager is to pick a scapegoat for a defeat rather than look at the total performance. Couldn't agree more. In this instance tho' it's a manager who seems to believe that a cruel twist of fate deprived him of the Liverpool job. Motherwell are clearly privileged to have such a quality coach/manager. He's ultimately responsible for the total performance and as he's so ahead of the game then if/when something goes wrong it must be down to individual error. He's also such an honest chappie he has to tell it like it is and, as he's never to blame, he has to speak the truth and blame a player. thought I'd get all the sarcasm out my system early this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delurker Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Disgraceful attempted deflection again; trying to deflect from the fact that his negative, dirty, cheat-and-wrestle-your-way-to-an-away-point tactics eventually failed to increasing attacking pressure and positive play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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