ian_mac Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Not in the team today nor on the bench. Is he going to be frozen out for the rest of the season because he signed the pre-contract? Simple answer, Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Apologies for having to labour the point, GRE but I didn't mention Archie. You are the one who is making that association. You said Thistle would do the same. The manager decides if that's to be done. Who is the present Thistle manager? Or are you saying that the manager would be told otherwise from above? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Did we not do the same with Cairney or Harkins when they signed PCAs ? I guess it's down to the manager to do what he thinks is best for the club he is managing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Did we not do the same with Cairney or Harkins when they signed PCAs ? I guess it's down to the manager to do what he thinks is best for the club he is managing Harkins didn't sign a PCA as he was still under contract- hence we got a fee for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 I don't think it's too surprising he's not featured for United. Perhaps the reason he didn't play much for us is the same reason that he's not getting played at the moment? United are no strangers to fielding young players. Undoubtedly a talented player, as witnessed in that second half at Rugby Pk, but I don't think many of us would've been either upset or shocked if he'd been subbed at half time. Sure I'd like to see the guy that came alive for 30 minutes that day return. He's not yet 20yo and his best days should be ahead of him but we've all seen plenty of young players that could've applied to. Perhaps a bit unfair as he only played 8 games for us, most of which was from the bench, if my memory serves me well. We have seen guys come to the club and it's taken at least half a season before they bed in. Personally I would take Muirhead back in a heartbeat. Plenty of potential there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Did we not do the same with Cairney or Harkins when they signed PCAs ? I guess it's down to the manager to do what he thinks is best for the club he is managing Cairney played up until the 2nd last game when he was sent off in ludicrous circumstances at Dens after scoring his hat-trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 Given the right circumstances any manager is going to choose the players who are staying ahead of any who are not going to be around. Most of the players who were due to leave us were going on to better things but were also crucial to our league position at the time, so they played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 (edited) You said Thistle would do the same. The manager decides if that's to be done. Who is the present Thistle manager? Or are you saying that the manager would be told otherwise from above? What I implied was that PTFC may well make a similar decision in similar circumstances. No names, no assertions or assumptions and certainly not on any member of current staff. My postulation was purely hypothetical, but - let's face it - not unlikely. As you allude to above, it is not always a manager's decision anyway. It could be a Board decision. Or the Chairman. Or even the player himself. Many variables affect these things and those of us who spout opinions on fans fora (myself included) are generally not the best informed on individual cases. Anyway, and more importantly GRE, thanks for a civilised debate on a worthwhile subject! Hope your weekend's been a good one. Edited February 14, 2016 by Barney Rubble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted February 14, 2016 Report Share Posted February 14, 2016 What I implied was that PTFC may well make a similar decision in similar circumstances. No names, no assertions or assumptions and certainly not on any member of current staff. My postulation was purely hypothetical, but - let's face it - not unlikely. As you allude to above, it is not always a manager's decision anyway. It could be a Board decision. Or the Chairman. Or even the player himself. Many variables affect these things and those of us who spout opinions on fans fora (myself included) are generally not the best informed on individual cases. Anyway, and more importantly GRE, thanks for a civilised debate on a worthwhile subject! Hope your weekend's been a good one. Hope you got plenty of Valentines Day champagne Barney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ancipital Posted February 27, 2016 Report Share Posted February 27, 2016 Erskine came on for the last 3 minutes today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibble Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 If Erskine had been available for the last couple of months or Lawless stays where would Erskine play? either takes lawless,s position or play behind a striker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 If Erskine had been available for the last couple of months or Lawless stays where would Erskine play? either takes lawless,s position or play behind a striker? Lawless has been playing wide mostly. His best position is imo behind the striker but that's most likely where Erskine will play. I for one would like to see a midfield of Osman and Fraser playing behind a trio of Amoo, Erskine & Lawless. To get the best out of Wee Stevie I feel Amoo needs to switch wings regularly as Lawless is far more effective coming in from the right. In any case I'd like to think that trio wouldn't play too rigidly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I'd like that but I think Fraser is potentially a weak link. I say potentially. I think he can be a great player, but not sure he's proved this season that he can be taken as a regular starter. We'd certainly need decent back-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 I'd like that but I think Fraser is potentially a weak link. I say potentially. I think he can be a great player, but not sure he's proved this season that he can be taken as a regular starter. We'd certainly need decent back-up. Valid points. Another weak point being that none of the front three hold any great defensive qualities. Abdul is so obviously solid defensively but from a distribution point of view rarely contributes much going forward. That would be where Fraser comes in, kinda playing the "Sean Welsh" role, something that the player himself hasn't been able to do often enough. Sean has rarely got pass marks of late but can't be criticised for his positioning and never hides. Fraser will have to have those two qualities as well as distribution skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 The thing with Gary Fraser is that he has loads of talent, and can create, but I reckon he's best when the game is in front of him, which would push him to one of the two central roles. Problem with that is I don't think he's great defensively, which is difficult to compensate for in that position. Always thought the same about Charlie Adam for Scotland. Chic Charnley had similar qualities, but he was special, and in those days the midfield wasn't as two-tiered as it is now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted March 30, 2016 Report Share Posted March 30, 2016 Lawless has been playing wide mostly. His best position is imo behind the striker but that's most likely where Erskine will play. I for one would like to see a midfield of Osman and Fraser playing behind a trio of Amoo, Erskine & Lawless. To get the best out of Wee Stevie I feel Amoo needs to switch wings regularly as Lawless is far more effective coming in from the right. In any case I'd like to think that trio wouldn't play too rigidly. Throw Ryan Edwards into that mix and you have a cornucopia of possibilities, combinations and substitutions. It would certainly keep all 4 on their toes as they would presumably be fighting for 3 starting places. Amoo is perhaps the only genuine winger but the others can play centrally or a bit wider. Yet, even Amoo has been effective through the middle with head and foot. Where would you shoehorn Blair Alston into that lot?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Starts today in semi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Starts today in semi. Yes noticed that 'Mad' Mixu must have had second thoughts after their recent results! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 The worst penalty I've ever seen, I think (I'll excuse the bloke who tripped over the ball- this was more stupid) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Yes noticed that 'Mad' Mixu must have had second thoughts after their recent results! Looks like a straight fight at the moment between Cummings and Beaton for Clown of the Match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) The worst penalty I've ever seen, I think (I'll excuse the bloke who tripped over the ball- this was more stupid) Pat Nevin comfortably wins that accolade. Edited April 16, 2016 by Barney Rubble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Chris Erskine has been Utd.'s best player IMO, not that that's a huge achievement! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davie Thistle Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Aff injured!! Fcuk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter of '63 Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 Chris Erskine looked way off the pace which is understandable considering his lack of games in recent months. It's been a poor game between two unimpressive sides one of whom look likely to be beaten finalists unfortunately, unless they step up their game considerably. Cummings' Paneka Penalty over the bar is undoubtedly the comedy highlight of the season and the Hibs' keeper has eaten all the pies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted April 16, 2016 Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 The Hibs keeper was the best player on the park. Which is inspiration to all us pie eaters everywhere. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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