thistle4celtic1 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 It may be comparing apples and oranges due to different eras, their personal talent level and the overall talent level at time of transfer but I'm sure some sort of comparison of Liam's worth can be drawn from the Alex Forsyth and Alan Hansen transfers in the early/mid 70's. There may be a better comparison to someone in the last 35 years I'm not aware of. Are AF and AH even fair comparisons? I think they both may have been a wee bit ahead of Liam, in terms of skill, though I do believe all three of them, at the time, were/are certainly in the top two players at their position, in the country, It would be interesting to find out what the going transfer fee for players of their calibre was back then and also what that same transfer fee is now, 40 odd years later. So what's Liam worth, based on Thistle receiving 100k-110k in the Forsyth and Hanson transfers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 Not sure you can compare the value of today's players with those from pre Bosman never mind those before freedom of contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 (edited) I'm afraid not Hansen and Forsyth were miles ahead of Lindsay. That's not to disparage our young centre back - quality all round has gone down in this country. But back to the comparison: both Hansen and Forsyth played for top English teams and for Scotland - Hansen played in Europe, winning European trophies. Lindsay might play for Scotland yet so could match Forsyth that way but he's not the same class. However Lindsay must be the best young centre back in the SPL at the moment (actually probably the best young Scottish centre back anywhere, though that's faint praise these days). I think Forsyth and Hansen both went for £100,000. That was in the 70s. I think if you look at these inflation guides that are about on the web you'll see that it's roughly 20 times that in today's money. That is a couple of million. I think we're more likely to get 200,000 with add-ons for Lindsay unless there's an auction. I wonder what we'd get for a young Jackie Campbell these days? Edited April 11, 2017 by Mr Bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaila Street Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 I think we're more likely to get 200,000 with add-ons for Lindsay unless there's an auction. I sincerely hope that anyone offering £200k is politely told where to go. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrybritton9 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 I spoke to Liam at thistle weir last week. I was impressed. Of the hundreds of people a week I speak to he was a genuine listener. He looked me right in the eye, listened and spoke effortlessly. His talent is obvious but he will go far as he is clever man who is well brought up. I hope he stays but wish him luck if he doesn't 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas clark Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 I sincerely hope that anyone offering £200k is politely told where to go. I hope that they are told, very impolitely, where to go. It may be inevitable that Liam moves on to bigger, not better, things. But the bidding ought to start at around 3 million bucks, and not a penny less. Personally, I hope he see's out his contract with us, and stuff the chump change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas clark Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 I spoke to Liam at thistle weir last week. I was impressed. Of the hundreds of people a week I speak to he was a genuine listener. He looked me right in the eye, listened and spoke effortlessly. His talent is obvious but he will go far as he is clever man who is well brought up. I hope he stays but wish him luck if he doesn't What does that actually mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrybritton9 Posted April 11, 2017 Report Share Posted April 11, 2017 What does that actually mean? Weren't you listening? Lol I've read articles by harry redknapp and Sam allardyce saying that players who get to the very top do so by their mindset and not just their talent. As Bill Borthwick of Man Utd says: the mind is the athlete, the body is just the means 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 I've read articles by harry redknapp and Sam allardyce saying that players who get to the very top do so by their mindset Provided their mindset is open to accepting backhanders from certain well known managers allegedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerrybritton9 Posted April 12, 2017 Report Share Posted April 12, 2017 West Ham fans forum. One senior player called off sick so harry took 18 year old Frank Lampard. A supporter questioned whether Lampard was any good: Often said that Lampard's mindset got him to where he is. I see similarities with Liam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roque Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 I hope that they are told, very impolitely, where to go. It may be inevitable that Liam moves on to bigger, not better, things. But the bidding ought to start at around 3 million bucks, and not a penny less. Personally, I hope he see's out his contract with us, and stuff the chump change. Absolute nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Liam seems a decent guy, it's been a mutually good relationship with Thistle. I would love us to hang onto him, but I don't blame thinking of moving to catch wee Gordy's eye. At least £1m fee would be a win-win for all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Liam seems a decent guy, it's been a mutually good relationship with Thistle. I would love us to hang onto him, but I don't blame thinking of moving to catch wee Gordy's eye. At least £1m fee would be a win-win for all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 I agree that Hansen and Forsyth were well ahead of Liam. But they were stolen at 100k. I cannot explain to my kids just how good Hansen was. Absolute world class. Like Terry or Kompany. Yes, as good as that. In the good old days of pre Bosman we could have held on to him indefinitely but of course we, being Thistle would not stand in a young player's way(with 1 obvious exception-Roughie, I hope you are making mega bucks broadcasting!). We were probably skint at the time and of course there wasn't as much money floating about in England at that time. But I recall being outraged at the 100k tags on both these players at the time. Not to mention Somners transfer to St Mirren! However I do believe that we would not have finished in the top 6 without Lindsay. Consider the number of goals conceded from set pieces in the years after promotion. This is very rare now . On Saturday Motherwell bombarded us with high balls when they went for broke. They hardly threatened our goal because the back 3 won everything in the air and on the ground. Factor in the difference in income between 6th and 7th and add that on to the fee. That's what he's worth to us. Archie has had a massive influence on the lad and he has learned quickly this year. In other words he has used his talent. Whether he can improve further under someone else I don't know but he strikes me as the sort of player who is both level headed and eager to improve. I don't see why he can't play for Scotland. There have been many perfectly good CB's who have performed well for Scotland with similar skill set to Liam e g Holton, McQueen and many others. Not a penny less than £1m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagsman Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 i think with season he has had liam should be around the £2m mark look at the likes of andrew robertson for example i dont get why we would undervalue him especially if the press agree he should be in scotland squad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 (edited) If Billy Gilmour at 15 and without having played a single first team game is being touted by Sevco at £500,000 the bidding for Liam should be starting at a very minimum of £1,000,000. Edited April 14, 2017 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen1876 Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Also worth noting that West Ham paid around £2 million for Stephen Hendrie, whom SOD had just destroyed in the 5-0 game. Lindsay for me is a more accomplished player although we will never get near that fee for him as West Ham had lost the plot there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Also worth noting that West Ham paid around £2 million for Stephen Hendrie, whom SOD had just destroyed in the 5-0 game. Lindsay for me is a more accomplished player although we will never get near that fee for him as West Ham had lost the plot there Might be wrong but I think it was around half that fee. Still, that's the benchmark we should be looking at for Liam especially as he still has 2 years to run on his contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Really hard to say how much Lindsay is worth. I'd say he was good the first half of the season, and verging on sensational so far in the second half. He has made huge strides since January, and now probably one of the best centre halfs in Scotland. I certainly can't think of any better left sided ones. Fair play to Liam for eradicating the errors, and Archie for always sticking by him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sick in the basin Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 Let's hope if he does go there are a few clubs in so the price goes up. My only reservation of him playing at the highest level is a lack of pace - for that reason I reckon £750k upwards would be reasonable with a high sell on clause Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 If Billy Gilmour at 15 and without having played a single first team game is being touted by Sevco at £500,000 the bidding for Liam should be starting at a very minimum of £1,000,000. Quoting the Sevco fantasy propaganda is hardly any kind of argument. If more than one club is interested then we could be looking at between 500K to 1 million but if just one club it will be below that minimum figure. A lot will depend on the strength of the bidding clubs current centre backs and how Lindsay would fit in: if they really need a good new centre back they can be haggled into paying more. A lot will depend what Lindsay is offered - I don't mean just money. He seems a smart young lad so he may consider what the chances of regular first team football are, the "atmosphere" when he is in talks and so on. I think the odds are strongly that he will go but it's just possible he might stay - but I think that will only happen if there is only one club interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 My only reservation of him playing at the highest level is a lack of pace Agreed, that to me is the only weakness in his game at this moment in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Willjag Posted April 19, 2017 Members Report Share Posted April 19, 2017 Not his only weakness. He needs to work on his game further up the park on the left near the half way line. He gets beat a lot in that position. (2nd goal on Saturday for example). I wonder if it's a concentration thing whe he goes out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peaty FC Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) value now appears benchmarked http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/partick-thistle-stopper-liam-lindsay-10396606 Edited May 11, 2017 by Peaty FC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 value now appears benchmarked http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/partick-thistle-stopper-liam-lindsay-10396606 £1,000,000 minimum or tell them where to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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