oneteaminglasgow Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Has anyone heard anything from the club in regards to their thoughts on this shambles? I emailed them but have had nothing back yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Would the c**ts then be eligible for the Scottish Cup? If so, would they be kept away from their parent clubs? But what if all four made it to the semi-finals.... would the teams the c**ts beat in the quarter-finals automatically replace them, or would all four beaten quarter-finalists play-off against each other? Total omnishambles of a plot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 I don't mind a Colts idea for any team that can afford it. The majority of players wont make it to first team so other teams benefit by picking them.up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Why don't the c**ts simply play in a Premiership Reserves League, which could combine with Championship Reserves if desired? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 I don't mind a Colts idea for any team that can afford it. The majority of players wont make it to first team so other teams benefit by picking them.up. Seems to work in most other sports. Though I believe colt teams should be restricted to regional leagues. Playoff positions of in the pyramid structure can go to the highest placed eligible team, discount fixtures Vs colt teams if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Seems to work in most other sports. Though I believe colt teams should be restricted to regional leagues. Playoff positions of in the pyramid structure can go to the highest placed eligible team, discount fixtures Vs colt teams if necessary. Would you be happy watching your team in a league consisting of youth teams? The whole thing is an absolute disgrace. The club should be publicly calling this out as the nonsense it is. It will benefit nobody, except maybe the Old Firm clubs, and should be shot down immediately. Youth sides/reserve sides should play in leagues with other reserves/youth sides. It’s that simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckstone Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 If you were the chairman of Spartans or East Kilbride, itching to get into League 2, how would you feel about this proposal ? Rangers and Celtic have huge squads, most of whom will never get near the first team. If they're that concerned about these players getting game time, loan them out to other clubs. Scottish football isn't run just for their benefit ..... oh, hang on a minute, maybe it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 EK and Spartans operate at a certain level and do good things there. Diffucult to compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 EK and Spartans operate at a certain level and do good things there. Diffucult to compare. Let’s take another example, Kelty Hearts have just moved from Junior football into the east of Scotland League with the explicit intent of moving up the pyramid. How galling must it be for them, who’ve put years of hard work into getting licensed and had to commit to the pyramid starting at tier 6, to see youth teams stuck straight into league 2. This proposal is an insult to every lower league club, you’d be as well saying that competing on merit doesn’t matter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Wow. Thanks Buckstone. I don't think i'll ever leave the house again unless where i go has wifi, this site is dynamite, wonder why no "news"papers do this/print this stuff. Sure wish you'd come back to games though. Ta much for the site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Let’s take another example, Kelty Hearts have just moved from Junior football into the east of Scotland League with the explicit intent of moving up the pyramid. How galling must it be for them, who’ve put years of hard work into getting licensed and had to commit to the pyramid starting at tier 6, to see youth teams stuck straight into league 2. This proposal is an insult to every lower league club, you’d be as well saying that competing on merit doesn’t matter. Seeing how the SFA/SPL bends over backwards for Ragers - and refuses to implement their own rules on improper registration for the same club - I'd say that that's true, at least regarding one club anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 'Rangers' should remember they're lucky to have one team in the league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 'Rangers' should remember they're lucky to have one team in the league If sevco go into administration would both their teams be deducted points? Maybe they think they could just nominate their colts to take the punishment? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Quite along but good analysis of this (showing that excuses for it are nonsense) here: https://www.sfm.scot/the-elephant-in-the-room/?cid=166326 I thought I'd link rather than paste as it's quite lengthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madcapmilkdrinker Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 I’ve seen the deleterious effects of having teams in competitions whose main goal isn’t to win the competition they’re in. It’s an awful, corrosive thing to happen to what were once meaningful competitions, albeit at a lower level than the corporate entities trying to *******ise it. There’s a 372 page thread here for any masochists, some lessons to be learned though. Resist this for all its worth if you want Thistle’s achievements to mean anything into the future. Trust me. http://safooty.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=39508 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 (edited) Would we get away with sending a Colts team to Parkhead for the cup tie? Edited January 25, 2018 by eljaggo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Would we get away with sending a Colts team to Parkhead for the cup tie? Maybe we should try it. Wouldn't do any worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Kelty Hearts will never move up the leagues. The pyramid system is over hyped as there are no "big" teams in the wrong place. Swap Raith and Ayr for Brechin and Dumbarton and the clubs of Scotland are in their correct places in the top 2 leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Kelty Hearts will never move up the leagues. The pyramid system is over hyped as there are no "big" teams in the wrong place. Swap Raith and Ayr for Brechin and Dumbarton and the clubs of Scotland are in their correct places in the top 2 leagues. What? Is this a wind up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Kelty Hearts will never move up the leagues. Can't for the life of me see why they can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 If this c**ts idea goes to a vote and I learn that PTFC vote in its favour, then I will stop buying a season ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Interesting interview with EKFC player and Celtic supporter Sean Winter https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/local-sport/celtic-rangers-colt-teams-open-11899549 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Interesting interview with EKFC player and Celtic supporter Sean Winter https://www.dailyrec...s-open-11899549 I've not much time for EKFC but can't disagree with the lad's opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 Although I am not an expert in such matters, I would imagine that the OF currently attract a large number of young players, who are thus denied to other clubs, such as ourselves and our near competitors. Many of these young players will not make the grade and although some will no doubt be "recycled" by Thistle and others, many will give up in disappointment and be lost to the game. I can only see the above scenario becoming worse if OF Colt teams are allowed to compete in the leagues. They can then offer young players an increased possibility of playing league football and thus cream off a higher proportion of the available pool. Whereas now, some younger players may make a sensible objective assessment and choose a non-OF route because of the greater possibility of securing league playing time, that argument would be negated. All we would be doing is to increase the OF wastage of potential talent. I fail to see any advantage for Scottish football as a whole or even for the League 2 clubs. Would attendance at Colt games be so high that it would make a big difference to such clubs' income? As for other Premiership, Championship and League 1 clubs, why on earth would they vote for a measure which benefits nobody but the OF? I have not read the proposals in great detail. Are there some built-in bribes and/or sweeteners that would tempt clubs to take the OF shilling? Are we and others really that desperate or short term in our thinking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 26, 2018 Report Share Posted January 26, 2018 I don't believe there's any limit to how many youngsters a club can send out on development loans. If there is then that could be relaxed. Cetic, sevco or whoever can send young players out to whatever league they wish, clubs where they've got a fair chance of first team football. The recipient club benefit as does the lending club. The nature of development loans is such that if a player isn't getting game (or even if he is) he can still play in the development league for his own club.That's effectively the status quo and I don't see what's wrong with that. Even if there wasn't any objection parachuting an U20 team into a division is kinda daft. What's the likelihood the team will be the same standard as the rest of the division? By logic they'll either be too good or too poor. Winning all the time or losing all the time is no way to develop youth football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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