ironfist Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 52 minutes ago, jagfox said: We've gone backwards since May 2018 when Gerry Britton was appointed permanent Chief Executive. Since then we're on our third manager and sit bottom of the league. Coincidence? I appreciate there are many issues for the miasma around the club. An interim board waiting on a fans working group isn't providing the leadership or direction needed at this time. I want McCall to succeed but questions need to be ask. Personally I'm not sure what Scally and Archibald bring as assistant managers? On field we are still making basic errors, conceding goals from corner kicks and the chances seem to be drying up. At least McCall has stated the target is 8th place but we need a massive uplift in performance and effort to reach that lowly yet vital goal. Britton can’t be blamed for the 17/18 relegation season- that was maxwell’s bag. I don’t think he was responsible for the firing of Archie or the hiring of Caldwell either to be honest- he answers to the board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, ironfist said: Britton can’t be blamed for the 17/18 relegation season- that was maxwell’s bag. I don’t think he was responsible for the firing of Archie or the hiring of Caldwell either to be honest- he answers to the board Just a coincidence then? Could be. Something doesn't seem right at the club anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibble Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 I do think letting miller go was a mistake. In a relegation fight we need experience. Also thought although miller missed a few chances he did start off a lot of moves and linked midfield and attack quite effectively. We don’t have anyone who can do that now. If the money saved on miller allowed us to get Rudden in for example then looking like a mistake of massive proportions given Ruddens fitness and injury issues. Both against Arbroath and Dundee we have missed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, javeajag said: What’s has the first team not got ? A manager, two assistants, a gk coach, sports science and a turnover of players that’s quite large ! How much time is that lot spending on the women’s team or the academy.....none More money, ultimately the woman's team and academy come at a cost. Personally i would disband both because the woman's team will never make us a fortune and the academy apart from Fitzpatrick has failed to produce. We seem to send our academy players on loan and then they get released. I don't see any of the players out on loan coming back that run out of contract this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Pinhead said: More money, ultimately the woman's team and academy come at a cost. Not to the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 The academy and women’s team come atm at no cost to the club so it’s a non point the women’s team actually win games ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, jagfox said: Just a coincidence then? Could be. Something doesn't seem right at the club anyway. Yes we are not winning games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted February 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 Just now, javeajag said: Yes we are not winning games And being doing it for almost 3 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said: And being doing it for almost 3 seasons. Can the women’s team and all will be well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted February 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, javeajag said: Can the women’s team and all will be well! Yeah. Then we can sign the girls for the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 Just now, Garscube Road End said: Yeah. Then we can sign the girls for the first team. that won't fit with his agenda though lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, javeajag said: The academy and women’s team come atm at no cost to the club so it’s a non point the women’s team actually win games ..... but all the cash wasted could have been assigned to the first team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 I don't think you're grasping this. It's not cash that's being diverted away from the first team. Money's been thrown at the first team over the past few seasons, by all accounts. There's been no lack of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, Pinhead said: that won't fit with his agenda though lol Eh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dark Passenger said: I don't think you're grasping this. It's not cash that's being diverted away from the first team. Money's been thrown at the first team over the past few seasons, by all accounts. There's been no lack of it. more money is needed, and i don't think you are grasping the fact that the womens team and academy will never make us back what it costs. this is now for thistle to run with mr weirs cash no longer at beck and call so will be interesting to see how this plays out over next 5 years and if we still have them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinhead Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 minute ago, javeajag said: Eh ? every time anyone makes comment about numerous points you always pull the woman's football card out and ignore everything else, we know you are Jackie's cheerleader but you need to try be less obvious with your biasedness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Pinhead said: more money is needed, and i don't think you are grasping the fact that the womens team and academy will never make us back what it costs. this is now for thistle to run with mr weirs cash no longer at beck and call so will be interesting to see how this plays out over next 5 years and if we still have them. Ah 8 players in January not enough hey let’s bring in 27 .....we have one of the biggest budgets in the league throwing money at it isn’t a magic solution as we are proving and the insults behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 33 minutes ago, javeajag said: The academy and women’s team come atm at no cost to the club so it’s a non point the women’s team actually win games ..... And from next season? Who funds them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, Pinhead said: more money is needed, and i don't think you are grasping the fact that the womens team and academy will never make us back what it costs. They're not costing 'us' anything, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 51 minutes ago, jagfox said: Just a coincidence then? Could be. Something doesn't seem right at the club anyway. Something hasn’t been right since 17/18 the club basically started to nosedive then and has never looked like reversing the trend since. 12 games left this year and I wouldn’t bet on us staying up, or pre-planning for a significant drop in revenue after relegation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: And from next season? Who funds them They're funded until the end of the 2020/21 season. I assume a decision will need to be made at that point, unless financial provisions have already been made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: And from next season? Who funds them No idea ? You ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, javeajag said: No idea ? You ? I’ve got far more important and enjoyable things to fund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 2 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: I'd agree Archie should've been sacked earlier than he was. But I very much doubt that many would have been of that opinion early in yon season. We had started about every season poorly, gaining momentum. As was the case with our best season. Also at the time we had a number of injuries most of us thought would make a major difference on return. In hindsight I believe the first time the Board/Maxwell could've/should've acted would have been around Feb/Mar '18. I agree that hindsight is a wonderful thing. If my memory is right, roundabout the time Clark was appointed at Killie, there were questions around whether Archie should be kept or not. I confess that I wasn’t in agreement with that group, but maybe a more ruthless board would have acted ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted February 9, 2020 Report Share Posted February 9, 2020 We all want to see the first team perform better and the club operating in a professional manner but at this moment in time we need to get our priorities right. We need the results on the park to improve so we don't get relegated and then we need to sort out the other side, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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