Third Lanark Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, King Kenny said: Fitzpatrick is either a 9/10 or a 2/10, nothing in between. Compare his output to the United wingers tonight and it’s night and day. Zero effort off the ball from him. Our new favourite tactic of shelling long diagonals doesn’t do us any favours either. We started the game tonight with zero belief we could win and out performance matched that. United are a poor team, it’s a poor standard of league this year so heaven knows why we sit off them so much. Young Diack looks decent, deserves a shot. We really need some midfielders in January. There’s players on our team that are 2/10 almost every week. Fitzpatrick having poor game is the very least of our worries 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: Two highest priorities in this transfer window: 1) A defensive coach 2) A CDM that is a dirty ******* (good luck finding one of those in a January window) Can we afford a defensive coach in all seriousness? I’m not sure we have the money for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnkebab71 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 Poor tonight…completely bottled it right from the start…Wee guy mentality. 100 appearances from Fitzpatrick and at a push he’s had 20 decent shifts…tonight again wasn’t one of them. Centre Mid ( or a couple of them) is an absolute priority in January. Bannigan is like playing with a man down. Utterly useless. Happy new Year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Third Lanark said: There’s players on our team that are 2/10 almost every week. Fitzpatrick having poor game is the very least of our worries Agree… it’s up to others to find Fitzpatrick who is frequently our only serious threat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, dl1971 said: Tonight just confirms we are not good enough to compete for the title. Play offs it will be. Can only hope we strengthen in January. Edited to add our entire midfield is very poor. Play offs it might be….keep playing like this and that will be a challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb1876 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 Just now, johnkebab71 said: Bannigan is like playing with a man down. Utterly useless. Shouted that at the TV many times tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kenny Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Third Lanark said: There’s players on our team that are 2/10 almost every week. Fitzpatrick having poor game is the very least of our worries That’s a fair point. My frustration with Fitzy is how much talent he clearly has but when he’s not at his best, he is miles off it. He’s still relatively young and will improve but his off the ball play needs to be miles better (and yes, he’s far from alone). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erty13 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) Did Brian Graham touch the ball tonight in the Dundee United half. Edited December 29, 2023 by erty13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fearchar Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) A goalkeeper incapable of controlling the penalty box or direct his defence, always liable to lose a ball shot low or at the near post. A defence all ajitter because of the goalkeeper behind them and not working together either on the flanks or in the centre. What seemed like a random selection in midfield. The only real mystery is why the opposition opted for the long ball so often to bother to cut them out. Up front, Graham isn't mobile enough to wander away from the penalty box. Lawless and Fitzpatrick are capable, but told to stay out on the wing to be shepherded into inconsequence. They were the only players to threaten to score or to set up a shot - from inside the penalty box. As we keep using fullbacks as buckshee wingers we lose impetus by being shepherded away from goalscoring areas (3 players on Fitzpatrick when he's in possession) and leave our defence exposed to countering on our wings. Success in football is built on secure defences. We'll remain also-rans (Dingwall repeatedly, anyone?) for as long as goalscoring is put before that. Edited December 29, 2023 by Fearchar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 minute ago, erty13 said: Did Brian Graham touch the ball tonight in Dundee United half. I thought Diack did more than Brian tonight to be honest and he was only for a quarter of the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy McD Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 I'm glad that I am down In Blackpool with the wind and rain, just watched it on my phone, not at the races, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 ‘For most of the second half we were in command’….’we were in the ascendancy’…..’we have been on a good run’…….doolan clearly watching a different game…..delusional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, King Kenny said: That’s a fair point. My frustration with Fitzy is how much talent he clearly has but when he’s not at his best, he is miles off it. He’s still relatively young and will improve but his off the ball play needs to be miles better (and yes, he’s far from alone). This is a point for debate. Has he really progressed since his first spell with us? IMO, he was on his way out under McCall because he was rank rotten for most of last season. He does seem to have responded to KD's coaching though - whatever that may be - and he certainly took the opportunity when Banzo got injured during the play-offs. He seems to have been enjoying his football since then, which is a good thing. But the plain fact is he's still playing at the same level he was playing at 5 years ago. Edited December 29, 2023 by Barney Rubble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jag36 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 Just now, javeajag said: ‘For most of the second half we were in command’….’we were in the ascendancy’…..’we have been on a good run’…….doolan clearly watching a different game…..delusional My thoughts exactly, same response after every defeat- 'it doesn't really matter we've been playing not bad will pick ourselfs up'. Would love to see him p*ssed off just once after a defeat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 A few have said we should get McInroy on a contract. Sure he has scored a couple of good goals and assists but too often he’s a passenger. Not the only of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, javeajag said: ‘For most of the second half we were in command’….’we were in the ascendancy’…..’we have been on a good run’…….doolan clearly watching a different game…..delusional Straight from the McCall playbook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exiledjag Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 I thought we tried hard and managed to stay in the game but in the end we ran out of steam and were simply outclassed. If anything this game highlighted all the weaknesses we have raised, discussed and debated since the start of the season so no point in repeating here . Tonight though I thought we also looked slow and not as fit as we should be. At least we are, perhaps, the 3rd best team in the championship but miles off RR & DU who have too much football in their squads, at the moment, for us. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter of '63 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 (edited) We look an ordinary side with our third place a reflection on the standard of the other sides. The structure of the side again looked flawed with once more McInroy then Alston offering no threat and no defensive cover. I wasn't surprised that there were gaps in midfield when Stanway went off. Fitzpatrick had a real off night & Neilson wasn't great either. I prefer Diack to Adeloye who I wouldn't be disappointed to see leave at the window- the same applies to Williamson, McGinlay & MacDonald, none of whom even made the bench. Doolan's signings have been almost universally disappointing - it will take really good recruitment at the transfer window to turn us into a credible play-off candidates - I'm not optimistic. Edited December 29, 2023 by Winter of '63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thistle88 Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 He really doesn’t like Adeloye does he.. I always find this ends up the problem. Well has been the 2 times McCall has left. Our recruitment has been woeful, Bar one or 2 who’s the best signing we have made, that has been signed by someone other than McCall ? I can’t think of anyone other than Scott McDonald who has done anything special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Thistle88 said: He really doesn’t like Adeloye does he.. I always find this ends up the problem. Well has been the 2 times McCall has left. Our recruitment has been woeful, Bar one or 2 who’s the best signing we have made, that has been signed by someone other than McCall ? I can’t think of anyone other than Scott McDonald who has done anything special. Steven Anderson was certainly a good signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, erty13 said: Did Brian Graham touch the ball tonight in the Dundee United half. Probably did but I can't be that certain. Don't really want to start singling out individual players as they were more or less all drastic tonight. Just starting to thaw out. Fingers still too cold to type much. Only to say I don't believe we had a single shot on target tonight. Gave the ball away so many times that even if we had been at our best defending (we were far from it) we were always going to lose a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Probably did but I can't be that certain. Don't really want to start singling out individual players as they were more or less all drastic tonight. Just starting to thaw out. Fingers still too cold to type much. Only to say I don't believe we had a single shot on target tonight. Gave the ball away so many times that even if we had been at our best defending (we were far from it) we were always going to lose a goal. McMillan had one down at the keeper's near post just before they made it 2-0. That was it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: McMillan had one down at the keeper's near post just before they made it 2-0. That was it though. That was close to where I was sitting. Didn't think it was on target but regardless at least one of our very few joiny up attacking moves tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kenny Posted December 29, 2023 Report Share Posted December 29, 2023 30 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Probably did but I can't be that certain. Don't really want to start singling out individual players as they were more or less all drastic tonight. Just starting to thaw out. Fingers still too cold to type much. Only to say I don't believe we had a single shot on target tonight. Gave the ball away so many times that even if we had been at our best defending (we were far from it) we were always going to lose a goal. This sums it up, especially in the first half. The standard of our passing was awful, constantly giving the ball away which just invites pressure. United pressed us but our movement was non existent. It was the same 2nd half vs Caley, players making runs behind opponents rather than in to space to receive the ball. Our only option is to then go long which inevitably leads to losing possession. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geecee Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 2 hours ago, sb1876 said: A decent keeper would also help. Can't blame Sneddon tonight. A scramble at the first and two good goals late on. A couple of good saves. Better team won. 3-0 didn't flatter them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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