Never Turned Up!

[The Cup]

We weren't at our best yesterday. We seemed very nervous. If we had played to our potential we would have seen you off quite easily. The first division has been poor this year. if you play that same team in the SPL you will come straight back down.

 

I could say the same about QotS. Lyle, Young and the likes and they aren't up to the 1st division.

Over 1 or 2 games you can compete with Thistle and Morton but over an entire season is a different matter.

 

Also the 2nd division is very weak this season. The top 3 teams from the 2nd came up to the 1st and were replaced by 3rd division nobodies.

It wasn't hard to win the 2nd division.

[redandyellowallover]

We weren't at our best yesterday. We seemed very nervous. If we had played to our potential we would have seen you off quite easily. The first division has been poor this year. if you play that same team in the SPL you will come straight back down.

 

We weren't at our best yesterday. We seemed very nervous. If we had played to our potential we would have seen you off quite easily. The second division has been poor this year. if you play that same team in the first you'll struggle to make an impact.

[Norgethistle]

Was the flag set on fire? Was it torn into pieces? No, it was pulled down - so to say it was 'wrecked' is distorting the truth more than somewhat ...

 

There were Welsh flags and fans at Firhill the other week because Wales had just played Scotland at Hampden. So that's pretty simple and makes sense.

 

I wasn't aware Thistle had an English Spurs-supporting contingent - and from other posts it seems these guys were a bunch of casuals who left escorted by the police. Maybe it's a good thing they were gone before the pitch invasion or they might have rushed on, given out a bit of violence, and wouldn't we have looked good then - BUT IT'S ALL RIGHT 'CAUSE IT SHOWS PASSION, APPARENTLY

 

Unfortunately, being a Glasgow club, both English and Irish flags have very negative connotations at football matches - and I don't want my club associated with any of that. And that's the first thing I thought when I saw that flag - "what the f**k is an England flag doing here?"

 

Another sour note on a sour day.

 

Total nonsense these boys left as they had a flight to catch, nothing wrong with welsh cardiff & swansea flags as they happen to in the area but these boys who come to a lot of our games booked in advance paid flights, hotels etc specifically for it and because its an English flag, not a Welsh flag its wrong............ your statement is bordering on racism because they are English

[MWM]

******* hell, BNP!? A couple of the boys there aren't even white ffs, I've heard it all now to satisfy a deluded agenda. No doubt this person probably brags to his mates how welcoming and politically free PTFC is compared to the big bad bigoted Old Firm.

[jaggybunnet]

Was the flag set on fire? Was it torn into pieces? No, it was pulled down - so to say it was 'wrecked' is distorting the truth more than somewhat ...

 

There were Welsh flags and fans at Firhill the other week because Wales had just played Scotland at Hampden. So that's pretty simple and makes sense.

 

I wasn't aware Thistle had an English Spurs-supporting contingent - and from other posts it seems these guys were a bunch of casuals who left escorted by the police. Maybe it's a good thing they were gone before the pitch invasion or they might have rushed on, given out a bit of violence, and wouldn't we have looked good then - BUT IT'S ALL RIGHT 'CAUSE IT SHOWS PASSION, APPARENTLY

 

Unfortunately, being a Glasgow club, both English and Irish flags have very negative connotations at football matches - and I don't want my club associated with any of that. And that's the first thing I thought when I saw that flag - "what the f**k is an England flag doing here?"

 

Another sour note on a sour day.

 

 

it was almost ripped in half so not distorting anything, unlike you

[Jaggernaut]

Back to the game: We had 11 corners, and just about every one was poor. I counted 5 in the first 5 min or so, and two didn't even get past their first defender. I reckon the lack of space due to the advertising boards impaired the kicker's movement. Shame, because our corners have generally looked more dangerous this season than in the past x years, whether it's Forbes or Craigen that has taken them. Am I right in thinking that O'Donnell also took some yesterday, with the same degree of success as the rest of his game?

[redandyellowallover]

Back to the game: We had 11 corners, and just about every one was poor. I counted 5 in the first 5 min or so, and two didn't even get past their first defender. I reckon the lack of space due to the advertising boards impaired the kicker's movement. Shame, because our corners have generally looked more dangerous this season than in the past x years, whether it's Forbes or Craigen that has taken them. Am I right in thinking that O'Donnell also took some yesterday, with the same degree of success as the rest of his game?

 

O'Donnell took at least 2. One of which was an "outswinger" that went out of play before swinging back in.

[Jaggernaut]

Maybe my final comment on yesterday's match: Is it just my imagination, or do our players slither and slide on greasy surfaces more than players of other teams do? A couple of potentially good moves yesterday ended with possession being lost after a slip, though it has to be said more of them ended with a wayward pass.

[Norgethistle]

Maybe my final comment on yesterday's match: Is it just my imagination, or do our players slither and slide on greasy surfaces more than players of other teams do? A couple of potentially good moves yesterday ended with possession being lost after a slip, though it has to be said more of them ended with a wayward pass.

 

Myself and my Dad noticed that both teams were sliding but Queens seemed to adapt to it in the second half

[Armand2]

Very disappointing performance in our first final for four decades.

 

Tactically, we were absolutely woeful. Queens pressured us high up the pitch, particularly on our full-backs, in a similar fashion to the way Raith did last week and we never dealt with it all afternoon. We completely bypassed the midfield again, punting countless aimless balls in the general direction of Craig but giving him little chance to get on the end of them.

 

Despite the aforementioned pressure applied by Queens, I've lost all patience with Sinclair; if he bothers his arse to get up the line, he'll have a better angle on his crosses meaning less of them will end up out of the pitch. He had numerous opportunities to get towards the byline but checks his run, knocks a ball inside which narrows the whole game again and then just stands still. An infuriating player and not a patch on Twaddle.

 

Lawless was anonymous as was Erskine. The latter was squeezed out of the game due to Queens effective tactics which reduced the pockets of space that he usually exploits; the former just continued his anonymity of late - needs a rest and told not to wear stupid, fandan boots which make it impossible to stand up. The service to Craig was poor but, when the rarely accurate ball came towards him, he won absolutely nothing. I advocated his place in the team ahead of Doolan but it never worked at all and his performance was on par with the dismal one against Dumbarton in January.

 

I think Welsh gets away with a helluva lot because he is perceived to be this "you don't notice the work he does" sort - that is utter nonsense, I'm afraid. He has been significantly below par since he came back from injury, which actually counts for the majority of the season. He has been extremely wasteful in possession lately and is often caught on the ball. Forbes has suffered as both he and Welsh play similar sort of roles and it is debatable whether they can both play in the same team because of this. I know who I would have in the team.

 

On the bright side, Bannigan wouldn't have did his burgeoning reputation any harm with a pretty assured performance. One of the youngest players on the pitch but, without a doubt, one of the few calm heads in our team; mature enough to spread the play and open the game up instead of continually playing straight down the middle. Forbes changed the game when he came on and offered our only real threat of the match. He was willing to get on the ball and try to make things happen which nobody else did throughout the afternoon; great play to set up the goal. Muirhead and Balatoni continued their good partnership and looked pretty solid throughout; a shame that is going to be broken up for the run-in due to the stupidity of the former. I've seen the incident on television and, although I'm not sure I wouldn't have done the same thing, I'm not paid to be a professional footballer and I wasn't representing my team on television. Had he not been sent off, Balatoni wouldn't have been taking a decisive penalty in the shoot-out or at least not when he did. Let down by indiscipline again and I imagine, as a club, we will be getting some sort of fine in the near future.

 

For the second game in a row, Fox was probably the man of the match, for us at least. Kept us in it with one save in particular which he turned around the post and his handling was solid throughout. Didn't have much chance in the shoot-out as most of Queens penalties were well taken.

 

I thought the big lad in Queens defence, Durnan, had a good game and looks a decent player. As infuriating as his antics were, Robinson was man of the match with some great saves. Johnston must be a stick-on for Manager of the Year.

 

Hopefully it's not another 42 years until our next final. And hopefully we turn up next time.

Edited April 9, 2013 by Armand2

[peagreenboy]

your statement is bordering on racism because they are English

 

No it isn't. And I'm insulted. You obviously cannot, or are not willing to, read my entire point. Don't reply to me. I'm not interested in your opinion.

 

it was almost ripped in half so not distorting anything, unlike you

 

Who cares? Thistle fans can do whatever they like. As we proved yesterday.

[Meister Jag]

I thought the flag was bang out! Very good if spurs fans have travelled up to see the game and support us, but supporting doesn't involve putting up a flag for a completely irrelevant team on top of an England flag when it's scottish clubs playing. If they wanted to support us they could have put up a thistle one. It nearly put me off enjoying the pre match atmosphere and it won't have looked good for us on the telly.

 

Is that what we're all about now? Image? So reading between the lines, we are the team that apparently welcomes everyone but maybe not the English. Why? Because it doesn't look good on telly!

[peagreenboy]

YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT

YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT

YOU'RE NOT READING RIGHT

YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT

[brick_top]

Is that what we're all about now? Image? So reading between the lines, we are the team that apparently welcomes everyone but maybe not the English. Why? Because it doesn't look good on telly!

 

It affects our public perception as a family club. Somewhere you can take your kids (the paying fans of the future) to watch football in a safe atmosphere. Not to mention what any potential sponsors or other people who may wish to put money into the club must have thought.

 

It HARMS our club. What is it that people don't get about that?

[Meister Jag]

Who cares? Thistle fans can do whatever they like. As we proved yesterday.

 

Is that a serious post? I'm shocked!!

 

Out of interest, what exactly did we prove? That we could sing, that we could turn up in numbers (pity some couldn't make it along week in week out... but hey ho) and maybe that we all got behind the team etc. But apart from that, what did we prove exactly?

 

Oh and if the Spurs fans were intent on causing trouble, why didn't they take offence to their flag being damaged? Strikes me that they just accepted things as heat-of-the-moment and decided not to react. Perhaps, like the rest of us, they were simply too busy supporting Thistle. I think JB's point is basically: was there any excuse for ripping it in two? IMO, the answer is pretty simple: NO.

[Harrybriscoe]

Total nonsense these boys left as they had a flight to catch, nothing wrong with welsh cardiff & swansea flags as they happen to in the area but these boys who come to a lot of our games booked in advance paid flights, hotels etc specifically for it and because its an English flag, not a Welsh flag its wrong............ your statement is bordering on racism because they are English

 

Then why did I pass a bunch of them heading back to the stadium after the game followed by the several members of the constabulary.

Was there more than one group of visitors from down south?

Even more concerning if there was.

 

Do they come to a lot of our games? I think I've missed maybe one game this season and would have thought I would have noticed them before now.

 

The difference between the national flag of Wales and the racist and bigoted connotations associated with the flag on display yesterday seem to be lost on you.

 

If the visitors from England knew anything about Thistle, and it was suggested elsewhere they did, why would they think it a good idea to display a banner that you're

more likely so see at games involving Rangers.

 

Out of interest, I can't remember what the flag said as the phrase didn't make any sense to me at the time. What did it say and what was it's meaning?

[Meister Jag]

It affects our public perception as a family club. Somewhere you can take your kids (the paying fans of the future) to watch football in a safe atmosphere. Not to mention what any potential sponsors or other people who may wish to put money into the club must have thought. It HARMS our club. What is it that people don't get about that?

 

I take your point and think I know what you're trying to say, but disagree totally. In my earlier posts I'd suggested that the English boys did nothing wrong; this remains my contention. They harmed nobody. No arrests, no fighting, no loutish behaviour etc. As I understand matters, they just paid to come up to follow Thistle. Without the flag, would you / we have even known they were there? They didn't invade the pitch and took no part in any unsavoury incidents on the field of play.

 

Sorry to take issue and I'm honestly not trying to wind you up. I guess this all comes down to that flag and another Glasgow team (who thankfully don't own the rights to any flag!).

[brick_top]

 

 

I take your point and think I know what you're trying to say, but disagree totally. In my earlier posts I'd suggested that the English boys did nothing wrong; this remains my contention. They harmed nobody. No arrests, no fighting, no loutish behaviour etc. As I understand matters, they just paid to come up to follow Thistle. Without the flag, would you / we have even known they were there? They didn't invade the pitch and took no part in any unsavoury incidents on the field of play.

 

Sorry to take issue and I'm honestly not trying to wind you up. I guess this all comes down to that flag and another Glasgow team (who thankfully don't own the rights to any flag!).

 

Apologies from me on this one mate. I totally misread your post and thought you were talking about the pitch invasion, so that's what I'm rattling on about haha.

 

Anyway, as you were gentlemen. ..............

[avie-man]

Funny, having watched the videos since I noticed a lot of the people on the pitch were infact young fans, in no danger at all, a big hurrah about nothing from knicker wetters. Ruined family club rep, hahaha, aye good one

[Lindau]

Perhaps some jags fans should arrange a visit to White Hart Lane and take a German, jags decorated, flag down with them. Mmmm then again....

[brick_top]

Funny, having watched the videos since I noticed a lot of the people on the pitch were infact young fans, in no danger at all, a big hurrah about nothing from knicker wetters. Ruined family club rep, hahaha, aye good one

 

No one said it was ruined. I said it was harmed. Which it was.

 

If you can't see that then you've got as much vision as we did in our play yesterday.

 

What if we score a late winner against morton? Is it okay to do it again? Cos we might win the league? Cos we're passionate? And if/when we clinch the title? Again yeah?

 

Gee, at this rate some of our fans will have spent more minutes on the pitch than Aaron Muirhead this season.

[Tinyman]

 

What if we score a late winner against morton? Is it okay to do it again? Cos we might win the league? Cos we're passionate? And if/when we clinch the title? Again yeah?

 

 

yep

[Jaggernaut]

Funny, having watched the videos since I noticed a lot of the people on the pitch were infact young fans, in no danger at all, a big hurrah about nothing from knicker wetters. Ruined family club rep, hahaha, aye good one

 

Maybe a lot of them were young, but some of them were certainly adults. In fact I saw one guy who must have been in his 40s or 50s wriggle away from a steward, get himself onto the pitch, and then he just stood there, arms aloft, before having to clamber back over. So his point was what, exactly? He was then "escorted" away by the steward presumably out of the ground. At least he didn't have to witness the penalty shoot-out; maybe that was his point!

[Guy Incognito]

Muirheads sending off for anyone who missed it.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5Xfbvovb9o

 

Ach well, at least it was a proper headbutt. I reckon f you are going to get sent off for violent conduct then it is better to do it properly.

 

Typical Jags: huge crowd, and they put on by far their worst display of the season. Queens looked like the higher-placed and more professional outfit by far. Only Fox and Balatoni come anywhere near getting pass marks.

 

O'Donnell: absolutely honking game. He is definitely suffering under what he's being told to do by Archie; he's currently not half the player he can be, and should probably even be dropped in his current form. Is he being told to punt it aimlessly every time he gets the ball?

 

Sinclair: Another one who is being told to play to only half of his strengths. He's fantastic when on a run, but he's now being told to start from a standing position on the half-way line. Gone is any overlap, which is one of his strengths.

 

Balatoni and Muirhead: As good as usual in central defence; one lapse for the goal.

 

Welsh, Bannigan, Craigen: Out-muscled, all of them.

 

Lawless: Out-muscled.

 

Craig: Out-muscled. Didn't win a single header.

 

Erskine: Should have been subbed after 20 min, and I love him. His worst game ever for us. Absolutely nothing went right.

 

Again, all credit to Queens. They were right in on top of us from the start, and it's clear that we don't handle that approach well at all. Raith did it last week, and Morton did it (and will no doubt do it again on Wednesday).

 

Their giant No. 4 and 5 controlled absolutely every high ball that we brainlessly put in. And their wee No. 7 was brilliant. Tore us to shreds.

 

It would have been an injustice if we'd snatched a victory out of that.

 

Danny Carmichael - cracking wee player. He always gave us problems when we played against them in the league and was probably a stronger contender for MotM than that big eejit goalie of theirs.

 

I am slightly surprised that no one came in for Carmichael when Queens went down, but I suppose money is tight for most teams at the moment.

[little_miss_jag]

The flag

 

 

Can someone explain to me what is so offensive? I actually thought although a little random it was quite nice.