Norgethistle Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 18 months ago (End of 2011-2012 season) we were 6th in league 1 - 9 points above a relegation play off spot (Jackie was given time and turned it around) 1 year ago we couldn't buy an away win, and our league title was slipping away (Archie took the reigns and turned it around) Last year we were told by everyone we were too young to win the league (The "Young team" proved everyone wrong) We are now in the top league, where we all dreamed of going We have one of the smallest squads in the League We have one of the youngest squads in the League We have one of the lowest wage in the League We have the least amount of "Play time" experience within our squad at the top league We have the smallest scouting network in our league We have the least amount of coaches in our league BUT We have a manager who wants to play football the right way We have a team that try's to entertain every week We have a team full of potential Archie has done miracles with what he has been given, in such a short time, if folk had said to us after getting beaten by Morton at Firhill just over a year ago that we'd be sitting in 11th in a years time, with the same squad, trying to play decent football, we would have bitten their hands of for it. We all accepted McColls 3/5 year plan, Jackies long term plan to turn us around......... they were all given time Archie needs that and our backing and support, I honestly believe that Archie given time will have us playing well and winning well, He cares about the club, very few other managers would Reality check everyone, look where we were not so long ago and look where we are now Back the man 34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnylambieslovechild Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 look where we were not so long ago and look where we are now And most people want to stay here and see we are currently going back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 18 months ago (End of 2011-2012 season) we were 6th in league 1 - 9 points above a relegation play off spot (Jackie was given time and turned it around) 1 year ago we couldn't buy an away win, and our league title was slipping away (Archie took the reigns and turned it around) Last year we were told by everyone we were too young to win the league (The "Young team" proved everyone wrong) We are now in the top league, where we all dreamed of going We have one of the smallest squads in the League We have one of the youngest squads in the League We have one of the lowest wage in the League We have the least amount of "Play time" experience within our squad at the top league We have the smallest scouting network in our league We have the least amount of coaches in our league BUT We have a manager who wants to play football the right way We have a team that try's to entertain every week We have a team full of potential Archie has done miracles with what he has been given, in such a short time, if folk had said to us after getting beaten by Morton at Firhill just over a year ago that we'd be sitting in 11th in a years time, with the same squad, trying to play decent football, we would have bitten their hands of for it. We all accepted McColls 3/5 year plan, Jackies long term plan to turn us around......... they were all given time Archie needs that and our backing and support, I honestly believe that Archie given time will have us playing well and winning well, He cares about the club, very few other managers would Reality check everyone, look where we were not so long ago and look where we are now Back the man Ive ran out of my likes for the day Norge, but great post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Excellent post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Agree entirely, Norge. I doubt tho' the usual few who doth protest so much will go along. http://2.bp.blogspot...re%2B%23966.jpg "These are small, but the ones out there are far away" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 And most people want to stay here and see we are currently going back. Take a look at this threads title. "Perspective" How on earth are we going back when we are in a different environment to what we were last season?. A huge leap in quality. You just don't get the meaning of this do you? Your negativity is astonishing in it's intensity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestreets Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 some points true.. but this team with a bit more selection and tactical awareness may perform better its the weakest spl in years and if it was not for Hearts being in a mess we would bottom.. no home wins since April last year.. loyal to a point with management but we need a big improvement in coming games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie T Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Beautiful post Norge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Early work start this morning meant I decided not to post after getting back from Firhill last night and I just knew what would be going on with the usual culprits. Great post Norge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted January 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 some points true.. but this team with a bit more selection and tactical awareness may perform better Which comes with time, time for Archie to find these guys, time for Archie to work on these tactics, Time to allow the board to raise funds to back him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thistledave78 Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Agree with every word. A few folk on here should have a good read at this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I am being negative but I am pissed off with what I am seeing on the park. The facts are that if we lose on Saturday St Mirren will go 6 points clear of us and have a game in hand. Their game in hand is against Hearts so that's 9 points, almost half our total. Ross County have signed some good players so will be nowhere near relegation. Kilmarnock have Boyd who will get them points and they know how to win games. So it's only January we can only realistically catch a Killie team that we can't match and all but in the playoff. That's my perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I am being negative but I am pissed off with what I am seeing on the park. The facts are that if we lose on Saturday St Mirren will go 6 points clear of us and have a game in hand. Their game in hand is against Hearts so that's 9 points, almost half our total. Ross County have signed some good players so will be nowhere near relegation. Kilmarnock have Boyd who will get them points and they know how to win games. So it's only January we can only realistically catch a Killie team that we can't match and all but in the playoff. That's my perspective. So we can't "realistically" beat St Mirren on Saturday. Honestly, I don't know why you bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cup Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 So we can't "realistically" beat St Mirren on Saturday. Honestly, I don't know why you bother. My point being if we lose on Saturday.... Did you miss that bit? So no we can beat them but it's not exactly likely is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Is St. Mirren's game in hand not against Celtic at Parkhead? That was the game cancelled at the start of the season for the tic's wee trip to Dublin to play Liverpool and it hasn't been played yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 My point being if we lose on Saturday.... Did you miss that bit? So no we can beat them but it's not exactly likely is it? I must have dreamt that we have already beaten them there this season!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peagreenboy Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 I think some people would be much happier in their lives if they just give the rest of the season a miss, and come back in the Summer. Unless ranting and raving and pishing and moaning on internet forums is what gets you through the day. And in that case, why want Archie to leave? You can gnash your teeth at every game until they all fall out! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) I must have dreamt that we have already beaten them there this season!! So what? There is no reason to believe that we can beat them this week based on the recent form of the two sides. Blind optimism does not guarantee a win. The Cup is right in post 13 above - we are in deep deep deep juju here. The plain fact is we have two wins in the league since September, one against Fake Thistle where we got lucky with a refereeing decision and their keeper kindly giving us an early Christmas present, and a semi-okay win against a Hearts under-18 squad plus three. While our performances may have been pleasing on the eye for the most part, it's a fact that we are 11th in this league and have lost the habit of winning a game of football since last Easter. Lose on Saturday and we no longer have feet left in which to shoot ourselves. Edited January 22, 2014 by Barney Rubble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LE BGM Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 Entirely agree with the first post. As frustrating as the season has been at times, I still believe in Archie. We need everyone going on Saturday to get fully behind the team, the last game at Paisley showed exactly what the team are capable of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) So what? There is no reason to believe that we can beat them this week based on the recent form of the two sides. Blind optimism does not guarantee a win. The Cup is right in post 13 above - we are in deep deep deep juju here. The plain fact is we have two wins in the league since September, one against Fake Thistle where we got lucky with a refereeing decision and their keeper kindly giving us an early Christmas present, and a semi-okay win against a Hearts under-18 squad plus three. While our performances may have been pleasing on the eye for the most part, it's a fact that we are 11th in this league and have lost the habit of winning a game of football since last Easter. Lose on Saturday and we no longer have feet left in which to shoot ourselves. So what?? Are St Mirren 10/15 points ahead of us, No they are 3 points ahead of us. We have won one game each. Hardly reason to say that its hardly likely that we will win through there especially as its clear to anyone that we are playing better away from home than we are at home!! Edited January 22, 2014 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 It's not as if we're getting beaten every game. We actually have more draws than any other team in the division. And most of those draws have been obtained playing good football. I'm genuinely enjoying the season and most of the games I've watched ( which is most games). In the end, this is all that matters to me. And of course, now we've strengthened the team, there's no reason why we can't start turning those draws into wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 So what?? Are St Mirren 10/15 points ahead of us, No they are 3 points ahead of us. We have won one game each. Hardly reason to say that its hardly likely that we will win through there especially as its clear to anyone that we are playing better away from home than we are at home!! Read my post again - it says ON RECENT FORM. Now go check the recent form of both sides, both home and away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 And of course, now we've strengthened the team, there's no reason why we can't start turning those draws into wins. This - but the wins need to start arriving soon unless we want to take our chances in a play-off. Which in my opinion would not be a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Interstingly, I suspect that if we had fallen narrowly short of Morton last season, and were in a championship playoff position (2nd/3rd/4th) this season (while playing the same brand of football), there would be fewer people calling for Archie's head- yet we'd be worse off. A victim of his own success, perhaps? Edited January 22, 2014 by Duke Gekantawa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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