oneteaminglasgow Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/premiership/14-team-premiership-could-be-brought-in-for-2016-17-1-3970519 Looks like we may be getting a pretty major revamp of the league system next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Looks like there is a panic that Rangers don't get promoted and United do get relegated. First reaction is that we would have a system where finishing 8th gives you a better run in than finishing 7th. That said, we do need some sort of change, so a bigger league is a move in the right direction, but why not a 16 or 18 team league. "Keep It Simple Stupid" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westertonjagfan Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Aye, 14 seems to be a number just pulled out of a hat. Has to be good for us, though. Should help us consolidate our position in the league and remove the panic that happens after we lose 3 games in a row and are fearing relegation. Maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted December 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I don't like the idea of having the top 6 teams playing different amounts of games from the bottom 8. It gives them an immediate extra income source in another home game which isn't avaliable to other clubs (unless they are in a playoff). We also don't know how relegation/promotion will work in this. Will it continue as 1 down and playoffs or will it be a straight 2 up 2 down? Or 2 down plus playoffs? If there is a playoff how would that work? How will prize money be distributed? An awful lot of stuff needing clarified about this idea for me, but I guess it's in the early stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rid Skwerr Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/premiership/14-team-premiership-could-be-brought-in-for-2016-17-1-3970519 Leaving aside the blatant favouring/saving of two Establishment clubs who would benefit, Am i the only one who had difficulty working out what the description of the Danish system group stages involved due to the use of words AND figures in the list? "Eighth, ninth, 10th, 12th" and seventh, 11th, .....etc" Really Scotsman, really? More inconsistent than an SFA referee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 It should be 16. That would be the perfect number and the last few seasons have shown that we have 16 teams who could easily compete with each other in the same league. My preference would be automatic relegation for the bottom 2 and a play-off for 14th placed team and the 3rd placed team from the division below. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I have just wikipediaed (is that a word) the Danish superliga and Danish 1st Division which both have 12 teams that meet 3 times each with no split. Strange to use that as an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Doncaster is of course the very fella that told us a ten team premier league was the only way feasibly possible. The whole point of league reconstruction has to be getting teams playing against each other on a LESS repetitive basis and to have teams playing MORE opponents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 It should be 16. That would be the perfect number and the last few seasons have shown that we have 16 teams who could easily compete with each other in the same league. My preference would be automatic relegation for the bottom 2 and a play-off for 14th placed team and the 3rd placed team from the division below. The whole point of league reconstruction has to be getting teams playing against each other on a LESS repetitive basis and to have teams playing MORE opponents. ^^^^^ these. play fifteen teams home and away. split into two eights, equals thirtyseven games. for the split, make the first round of matches at a neutral ground (£15 entry for all in this match), then you've got three home and away games, so complete parity for all clubs and their supporters. with a few tweaks to league cup (beyond what's already announced), we'd instantly have a set up massively more appealing, varied and competitive for players and fans alike. however, any changes to league sizes, should not be implemented when the preceding season has already started. however ..... changing the process of who goes up (or down, or escape it by league size change), and how, midway through a season, is NOT on. sporting integrity please. not corruption which is solely for the purposes of ensuring some new diddy bigot club gets up or to avoid some snake clubs being relegated because they are having a shite season. if dungcaster and other brainless bampots imbeciles who run our game want to make a change midseason, that will be universally welcomed by all supporters, then they would serve scottish football best, by resigning and gtf, back under the rocks they crawled from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Genuinely wouldn't surprise me if they decided on a 14 team league and then made up the rules regarding who goes up or down after the season's over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Genuinely wouldn't surprise me if they decided on a 14 team league and then made up the rules regarding who goes up or down after the season's over. The traditional SPL/SPFL way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 If it's to be in place for next season it's obviously to safeguard possibly Dundee Und, Hibs and Scotland's newest club. Absolute joke. I am all for a bigger league, but not from next season and that would stand even if we went down at the end of this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 For me I don't really care what it is that brings about change. The end justifies the means as far as I am concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I'm generally all for zarny ideas, but even I think this is bonkers. 14 teams is just too difficult a number. In principal I have no problem with a 7-7 split as weekends off isn't a problem, but then it takes up an extra match day over the course of a season, so would be a problem from a planning perspective. Should be a league of sixteen for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 I'm generally all for zarny ideas, but even I think this is bonkers. 14 teams is just too difficult a number. In principal I have no problem with a 7-7 split as weekends off isn't a problem, but then it takes up an extra match day over the course of a season, so would be a problem from a planning perspective. Should be a league of sixteen for me. Just need Sevco to hit a slump and it will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) Meanwhile another slap in the face. Our home fixture with Aberdeen has been moved to the Friday night for TV scheduling. Feel it's fair to say that we would've been expecting a large away crowd for this fixture if it had remained on the Saturday. Anyone travelling from Aberdeen will effectively have to leave work early if not take the half day off and I doubt public transport is feasible. Surely Friday night games should take into consideration fan travel. Edited December 9, 2015 by lady-isobel-barnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda-jag Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Surely Friday night games should take into consideration fan travel. should be a rule or condition in tv contracts that evening tv games must be between clubs no more than fifty miles apart in my view 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 As usual Mr Doncaster makes an ass of anything he touches , fool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Would a drop of say 1000 paying fans in total be a reasonable guesstimate? 200 perhaps concessions and deduct VAT. Conservatively I'd say we'll lose at least £17.5K because of this lunacy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGSMAN1968 Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 "Surely Friday night games should take into consideration fan travel." Not to mention Monday night ones on 30th Dec!!!!!! Do they even bother to think about fans? when arranging these games????? (Think we know the answer, hmmm?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twinny Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 In England on bank holiday weekends non league clubs tend to play Saturday-Monday. Would a Friday night Monday afternoon double work ok bank holiday weekends in Scotland (given sensible scheduling wrt distances travelled)? Another way to guarantee only Scottish matches would be played I suppose but might be a big hit on wallets out difficult for families. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 Just picked my way through the fixtures to update my fixture list for sponsorship comps. Aberdeen have 5 consecutive televised games culminating with their trip to Firhill. Some games have been postponed on 30 January to accommodate League Cup semi finals. Inverness v Hearts has been switched to that Saturday from Weds. 2 March. A rare case of an evening match being switched to a weekend. Should boost the ICT coffers. Still no rearranged dates for the postponed games from 5 Dec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabbath Posted December 9, 2015 Report Share Posted December 9, 2015 18 team league nothing more nothing less, with 2 up 2 down. if any team cant survive financially then cut your cloth to suit go junior or go under. the way forward is a youth policy not trawling the depths of bogus English football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) 18 team league nothing more nothing less, with 2 up 2 down. if any team cant survive financially then cut your cloth to suit go junior or go under. the way forward is a youth policy not trawling the depths of bogus English football. Trawling these bogus depths dredged up the magical Mustapha Dumbuya Edited December 10, 2015 by partickthedog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted December 10, 2015 Report Share Posted December 10, 2015 If there is to be a 14 team league next season, the bottom club should still be relegated, with top 3 in Championship being promoted and 4th in a play off with 9th in the Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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