gianlucatoni Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Scottish Cup every time - would love to see Jags fans and their long suffering extended families taking up half of Hampden - it'd be a once in a lifetime experience and we bloody well deserve it! Been to Hampden before for semi-finals against Aberdeen (Jim Melrose scored an overhead kick IIRC but we lost 4-2 I think) & the h*ns in the late 70's and more recently the H*ns again. Can only ever wonder what those Jags fans felt in 1921 & 1971 ... suppose we'll have to wait another 5 years to 2021 to find out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaila Street Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 [ would actually be quite disappointed if we won after a 0-0 borefest and penalties ] Jings you're a hard man to please If that scenario came to pass I'd be finally sobering up just before the start of the next season and freshly divorced. A small price to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrishammett Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Great question a real catch 22. Like has been said, win the cup and that team become legends , written into the history books. Get relegated and it can be a long long way back. Wigan a couple of seasons ago look at them now. Birmingham City won the league cup, first trophy in their history and were relegated the same season. They played and lost 3-0 to West Brom the weekend after winning the cup ( probably still hungover) Thise 3 points meant West Brom stayed up instead of Birmingham. The list goes on... Think I'd still rather the clubs name on the trophy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Jag Posted February 5, 2016 Report Share Posted February 5, 2016 Finishing in the top 6 would make it a lot easier to consolidate long-term. I would fancy our chances of having 2 or 3 good cup runs were we fully to consolidate as a mid-table Premier League club. Being in the play-offs, even if we win, would represent the St Mirren-ification of our club, having been in the top flight for 3 seasons without really doing anything but pulling a rabbit out the hat elsewhere. We would be favourites to go down the following season and we have a much lower chance of having good cup runs if we have to completely rebuild the club around the demands of a Yo-Yo team, just to be back in the Premier League a few years later. Basically, top six. With the Cup there's always next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Reaching the final every time because we can never win the league. Certainly don't want to drop down a league but always liked visiting other grounds in the lower divisions. I am still raging at the Bobby Houston semi against Rangers Mark 1 in 1979. And attending and winning 1971 was the best of all days, one that I would love my sons to be able to replicate. Even if we lost in the final, at least jags fans would have a well deserved party day. We are a very good side at the moment, all playing for each other and will never be involved in the play offs anyway. So let's go for cup glory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Can I change my mind?: Cup glory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 A Scottish Cup win would top anything for me. If we get relegated I'd still be going to watch us anyway so after the initial disappointment it wouldn't really matter to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) A lot of talk on here about consolidating, but does that really mean anything? Since our promotion it has been established teams, "consolidated" in the premier league; Hearts, Hibs and St Mirren, who have been relegated. Motherwell have survived a playoff. Dundee United are looking doomed and it's Killie and Motherwell again who are currently most in danger of the playoff. It proves that consolidation protects you from nothing, every season you start again, equal with every other team desperate to prove their own status. I'd take a cup win over top six any day, just not if it meant relegation, because I think that would seriously tarnish the cup winning feeling, and memories. Edited February 6, 2016 by allyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) Can I change my mind again? Top six ! Edited: No, I mean Cup! Edited February 6, 2016 by Jaggernaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G13 jag Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Great question a real catch 22. Like has been said, win the cup and that team become legends , written into the history books. Get relegated and it can be a long long way back. Wigan a couple of seasons ago look at them now. Birmingham City won the league cup, first trophy in their history and were relegated the same season. They played and lost 3-0 to West Brom the weekend after winning the cup ( probably still hungover) Thise 3 points meant West Brom stayed up instead of Birmingham. The list goes on... Think I'd still rather the clubs name on the trophy though. I remember Birmingham supporters being asked weather they wanted cup glory or survival. To a man they wanted to see their team win a trophy. Where is the fun in fighting to stay in an over inflated league, playing dour football in order to stay in an over inflated league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G13 jag Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 I remember Birmingham supporters being asked weather they wanted cup glory or survival. To a man they wanted to see their team win a trophy. Where is the fun in fighting to stay in an over inflated league, playing dour football in order to stay in an over inflated league. Whether Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Whether Dry but overcast. Good chance of rain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Everywhere you go, always take it with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Sometimes we get four seasons in one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Top 6 grows the club and would help us going forward to win the cup. Relegation via the play-offs would cause tons of damage and set us back several years. I think our team and management are capable of both winning the cup and being top 6 with the right rub of the green, on our game I don't fear us playing anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Top 6 grows the club and would help us going forward to win the cup. Relegation via the play-offs would cause tons of damage and set us back several years. I think our team and management are capable of both winning the cup and being top 6 with the right rub of the green, on our game I don't fear us playing anyone Hear hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Top 6 grows the club and would help us going forward to win the cup. Relegation via the play-offs would cause tons of damage and set us back several years. I think our team and management are capable of both winning the cup and being top 6 with the right rub of the green, on our game I don't fear us playing anyone Hear Hear here too. Just what I would have said but it would have taken me several more paragraphs to make the same point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Yep. Hear hear. But if the question was would you like to win the Scottish cup and consolidate our place in the premier league or not, it wouldn't have been a very interesting debate. ☺ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Up and down the leagues has been our bread and butter for years and the chanpionship is not a bad league but I was 4 on our last cup final visit so wasn,t there. No it is time for a Scottish Cup day to live long in the memory please. Even better a story of lifting the cup to tell the next generation. Top 6 is just short term success and doesn,t get remembered at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Definitely the league now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metzmagic Posted February 6, 2016 Report Share Posted February 6, 2016 Top 6 without question!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mediocre Pundit Posted February 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Ah well, 60% of us won't mind as long as we now focus on the league; 40% of us are gutted. Good discussion chaps - maybe next season we can have both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Ah well, 60% of us won't mind as long as we now focus on the league; 40% of us are gutted. Good discussion chaps - maybe next season we can have both. Still gutted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabbath Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Give me a good old relegation battle year in year oot. Yep, that's the boy for me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Give me a good old relegation battle year in year oot. Yep, that's the boy for me..... Canna whack it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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