Jordanhill Jag 312 Report post Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, scotty said: So, maybe it did need "Fan Ownership" ................ ! Not convinced - the actual Ownership of the Club is a Mute point - its how much influence the Fans can have on the Club And under OneThistle they had a Major Influence on Matchday - everything from Matchday Experience - Catering - Stewarding all with direct influence from the Fans However there was a change of who was influencing and controlling things at the Club and OneThistle etc were deemed not required It is however worth noting that the OneThistle Concept made its way into a EUFA Handbook of Best Practice for Fan Engagement - Just Scottish Football is all about Wee Empires & Egos Will we ever see true Fan Ownership at PTFC - not convinced 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandy 807 Report post Posted August 15, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 3:43 PM, Jordanhill Jag said: Not convinced - the actual Ownership of the Club is a Mute point - its how much influence the Fans can have on the Club And under OneThistle they had a Major Influence on Matchday - everything from Matchday Experience - Catering - Stewarding all with direct influence from the Fans However there was a change of who was influencing and controlling things at the Club and OneThistle etc were deemed not required It is however worth noting that the OneThistle Concept made its way into a EUFA Handbook of Best Practice for Fan Engagement - Just Scottish Football is all about Wee Empires & Egos Will we ever see true Fan Ownership at PTFC - not convinced You have made me all nostalgic about the days of direct fan involvement helping the Club, JJ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaggymct 12 Report post Posted August 28, 2020 Update released https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/fan-ownership-to-pick-up-pace-in-next-steps-transition/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
javeajag 830 Report post Posted August 28, 2020 33 minutes ago, jaggymct said: Update released https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/fan-ownership-to-pick-up-pace-in-next-steps-transition/ Good news Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Woodstock Jag 490 Report post Posted August 28, 2020 Hopefully this means we will have a clear timetable within a month. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandy 807 Report post Posted August 29, 2020 11 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said: Hopefully this means we will have a clear timetable within a month. It’s better news. And led by someone who seems to have business acumen. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norgethistle 1,346 Report post Posted August 29, 2020 15 hours ago, Woodstock Jag said: Hopefully this means we will have a clear timetable within a month. Seems a lot to be done in a month, not sure why resources would be used on a new name “to seek agreement from fans on a name for the new entity as soon as possible, identifying a method then beginning consultations from September 7th – 18th, with announcement on 21st September” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowenBoys 1,764 Report post Posted August 29, 2020 18 hours ago, jaggymct said: Update released https://ptfc.co.uk/ptfc-news/fan-ownership-to-pick-up-pace-in-next-steps-transition/ Quote despite there being little visibility in recent months, substantive work was ongoing behind the scenes Seems, to me, more like a body rising from slumber. 46 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: Seems a lot to be done in a month, not sure why resources would be used on a new name “to seek agreement from fans on a name for the new entity as soon as possible, identifying a method then beginning consultations from September 7th – 18th, with announcement on 21st September” The lockdown months were a great opportunity to engage with fans. Many will have been not working or furloughed with plenty of time and headspace for engagement. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norgethistle 1,346 Report post Posted August 29, 2020 5 hours ago, BowenBoys said: The lockdown months were a great opportunity to engage with fans. Many will have been not working or furloughed with plenty of time and headspace for engagement. Agreed an opportunity lost Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandy 807 Report post Posted August 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Norgethistle said: Agreed an opportunity lost This Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KemoAvdiu 301 Report post Posted August 30, 2020 How can we name an entity before really having a clue what that entity will be or how it will work? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaggernaut 1,405 Report post Posted August 30, 2020 2 hours ago, KemoAvdiu said: How can we name an entity before really having a clue what that entity will be or how it will work? "God" knows. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norgethistle 1,346 Report post Posted August 30, 2020 7 hours ago, KemoAvdiu said: How can we name an entity before really having a clue what that entity will be or how it will work? How important is the name? Surely the content is what matters Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KemoAvdiu 301 Report post Posted August 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Norgethistle said: How important is the name? Surely the content is what matters Exactly what I’m saying. Yet naming this new body seems to be the first step in the process? Weird. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinhead 266 Report post Posted August 30, 2020 54 minutes ago, KemoAvdiu said: Exactly what I’m saying. Yet naming this new body seems to be the first step in the process? Weird. They will name it the Jacqui Low comedy club and put her in charge, pretty much already there just need the name granted. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norgethistle 1,346 Report post Posted August 31, 2020 23 hours ago, KemoAvdiu said: Exactly what I’m saying. Yet naming this new body seems to be the first step in the process? Weird. How many UK Govt or Scottish Govt policies have been announced with a great name, but no substance and fail to work or even to actually launch. Seems to be the “modern world” make it sound catchy and then determine how it’ll work Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BowenBoys 1,764 Report post Posted August 31, 2020 23 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: How many UK Govt or Scottish Govt policies have been announced with a great name, but no substance and fail to work or even to actually launch. Seems to be the “modern world” make it sound catchy and then determine how it’ll work And closer to home - TAG 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norgethistle 1,346 Report post Posted August 31, 2020 33 minutes ago, BowenBoys said: And closer to home - TAG I see your “TAG” and I raise you “Real Scottish Football” 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinhead 266 Report post Posted September 1, 2020 This whole fan ownership is doomed to failure! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garscube Road End 883 Report post Posted September 1, 2020 12 hours ago, Pinhead said: This whole fan ownership is doomed to failure! Absolutely. And deliberately so. J. Low will just flannel everything and stay in complete control. And those who have bought this stuff? Lol 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jaggy 318 Report post Posted September 1, 2020 Interesting development with Dunfermline's fan owned club https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53988828 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norgethistle 1,346 Report post Posted September 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, jaggy said: Interesting development with Dunfermline's fan owned club https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53988828 Effectively removing fan ownership by selling 30% with an option to take another 45.1% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norgethistle 1,346 Report post Posted September 2, 2020 I see we have added 3 directors to the board - Michael Robertson - Alan Rough - Douglas Noble whilst Charan Gill has stepped down. This gives us a board of 8 persons (plus Gerry) for a 1st division club with a home attendance of around 1800 fans. For context, Liverpool have 7 board members including owner and non-executive (Kenny Dalglish) It seems strange to pad out the board when we’ve been told we are speeding up the transfer to the fans Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garscube Road End 883 Report post Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Norgethistle said: I see we have added 3 directors to the board - Michael Robertson - Alan Rough - Douglas Noble whilst Charan Gill has stepped down. This gives us a board of 8 persons (plus Gerry) for a 1st division club with a home attendance of around 1800 fans. For context, Liverpool have 7 board members including owner and non-executive (Kenny Dalglish) It seems strange to pad out the board when we’ve been told we are speeding up the transfer to the fans Alan Rough again? Jesus! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Norgethistle 1,346 Report post Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Garscube Road End said: Alan Rough again? Jesus! A board of 8 plus Gerry for a club of our size and current stature / turnover is appalling 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
