javeajag Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, Fearchar said: Perhaps we should go all-out for a continental arrangement and appoint a Director of Football to hire and fire, leaving Doolan to coach the first team. It's clear that we have one or two gaps: an outright hard man that won't accept defeat and a defensive midfielder. (They could be the same person.) I could make a case for that person being ian McCall …. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 30 minutes ago, javeajag said: I could make a case for that person being ian McCall …. Thats never going to happen ( not because of anything he has done before the rumour mill starts ) its simply never going to happen - we would rather pay him every month to wander around byres rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Third Lanark said: Our budget will still be a lot more than many other championship teams and he has wasted some of what he has got. Robinson on 2 years when there are very serious concerns about fitness. signing Williams on 2 years- what scouting was actually done on this one? was McDonald signed because of how good he was in YouTube videos I’ve also previously expressed concerns about the resigning of some players who are nothing better than average Re Budget, possibly that’s the player level we can afford just now We’re 3rd in the league just now , if we finish there it’s been a good season . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Thats never going to happen ( not because of anything he has done before the rumour mill starts ) its simply never going to happen - we would rather pay him every month to wander around byres rd He’s always wandered around Byres Rd regardless!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanhill Jag Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 20 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Re Budget, possibly that’s the player level we can afford just now We’re 3rd in the league just now , if we finish there it’s been a good season . Surely the £500k Investment is going to allow us to recruit decent players for the second half of the Season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 21 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Surely the £500k Investment is going to allow us to recruit decent players for the second half of the Season ? Let's hope so. If only Kevin holt was available..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 23 minutes ago, Jordanhill Jag said: Surely the £500k Investment is going to allow us to recruit decent players for the second half of the Season ? Not sure the 500k investment was for the playing budget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, scotty said: We were too slow all game. From Sneddon forward. That's my major criticism of Sneddon. Loves to leave the ball on the ground while he looks around the park for where to boot it, then pretends to be about to boot it when a player starts to run in on him, player stops, so more looking around by Sneddon before finally, the (too often inaccurate) punt. Or, loves just standing clutching the ball, , looking around as if he'll boot it, but then after 10 seconds he rolls it 3 yards to a defender, who then boots it........ And this is all when we are trailing the other team by one or more goals!! Edited October 22, 2023 by Jaggernaut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 9 hours ago, javeajag said: I could make a case for that person being ian McCall …. Please don’t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Please don’t People say we lost our four best players…..holt, turner, doc and tiff…..who signed them? Whatever you say about McCall he has an eye for a player. i remember a few people saying Doolan will be good in bringing in players …..dear oh dear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 12 hours ago, Bryza said: All of this. A bang average United team shows us how below average we really are. Would just like to add, its good to know an elbow to the face and a push in the back are on par and merit a yellow and also kicking a player on the head while is on the ground from being fouled doesn't merit a talking to. It’s a pretty important point. The kick in the head to McInroy and Elbow in the face were by the same player, who should have been off the park, before Holt is allowed the freedom of Firhill. We also should have had a penalty in the 1st half when Lawless was tugged just before having a shot. The ref definitely favoured Utd. Having said that, there is no excuse for the way the team gave up after the 2nd goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, javeajag said: People say we lost our four best players…..holt, turner, doc and tiff…..who signed them? Whatever you say about McCall he has an eye for a player. i remember a few people saying Doolan will be good in bringing in players …..dear oh dear He also had a budget for a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpj Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) Rather confused by the typical BBC report as apparently Sibbald 'scored the game's only goal' according to picture caption above report. Does no one ever proof read anything! 🤦♂️ https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/67073709 Edited October 22, 2023 by dpj Forgot link 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 20 minutes ago, scotty said: He also had a budget for a player. Can add to that as well , Tiff and Holt had already been Premier League players, Doc was his Captain down at Ayr , which leaves Kyle who had already played circa 150 senior games , hardly an eye for a player. Just now where we are at we should be scouting at lower league level , developing our Academy players etc With our budget constraints it’s the only way . McCall did bring these players in but now we are suffering as a Club because he was miles over budget and that’s the legacy he leaves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 12 hours ago, javeajag said: I could make a case for that person being ian McCall …. I could make a case for that not happening, Mansell , Akinola , Lyons , Brownlie etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, scotty said: He also had a budget for a player. So has doolan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 2 hours ago, javeajag said: People say we lost our four best players…..holt, turner, doc and tiff…..who signed them? Whatever you say about McCall he has an eye for a player. i remember a few people saying Doolan will be good in bringing in players …..dear oh dear Conveniently forgetting some of the duds that he signed. He signed some good ones and some bad ones, same as any other manager. I suspect on balance his recruitment was average. Re Doolan, we have no idea on the respective budgets. Currently his team are far exceeded my expectations at the start of the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 31 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Can add to that as well , Tiff and Holt had already been Premier League players, Doc was his Captain down at Ayr , which leaves Kyle who had already played circa 150 senior games , hardly an eye for a player. Just now where we are at we should be scouting at lower league level , developing our Academy players etc With our budget constraints it’s the only way . McCall did bring these players in but now we are suffering as a Club because he was miles over budget and that’s the legacy he leaves. Ok…..so give me the budget comparisons of McCall v doolan ….oh you can’t ? how does our budget compare to the rest of the league ? ….oh you don’t know what did doolan spent the budget overspend he was given on ?……Alston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Conveniently forgetting some of the duds that he signed. He signed some good ones and some bad ones, same as any other manager. I suspect on balance his recruitment was average. Re Doolan, we have no idea on the respective budgets. Currently his team are far exceeded my expectations at the start of the season. Then we would be underperforming given our budget compared to other teams in the league. our budget is sufficient to be in the top four of this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 15 minutes ago, javeajag said: So has doolan Obviously not the same budget as McCall or we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in financially Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 With regards to thread title noticed about 10 guys in new Thistle tops in pub after game. Turns out they were German sailors who take in a game when in port. (Had thought of the Rangers, but no tickets.) They all bought a top and tickets, shame about the result. Noticed quite a few new punters around my section, including a certain Charlie Mulgrew and his kids. We always seem to fall flat when we get a decent crowd in? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dl1971 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 The reality of what the game showed us ( and the one against Arbroath ) is that we won't be challenging for the title. I think Dundee United are far superior to Dundee of last year. So realistically we were unlikely to challenge as this team is not as good as 22/23. Given the financial state of flux its play offs at best. As for Doolans signings to date the jury is well and truly out. For a new manager not exactly surprising, but yes he will and should be judged. If we can get mcmillan back soon and milne gets back to last year's form that would make a huge difference. Last point some posters suggested that some players were passable yesterday ( strong drink must have been taken ) but this was a collective failure all over the park ( bar lawless maybe for some of first half ). Last point. I hope Muirhead has a large fine coming for getting sent off in his historically stupid manner. Utterly pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter of '63 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 28 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: I could make a case for that not happening, Mansell , Akinola , Lyons , Brownlie etc Mansell was signed by Caldwell. Akinola looked a good defender until whatever happened, Brownlie likewise until he got injured. Not sure who Lyons is but I am perplexed why James Lyon was given a two year extension but is behind Williamson, Alston & McInroy who have been overwhelmingly unimpressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winter of '63 Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, jlsarmy said: Obviously not the same budget as McCall or we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in financially Are we financially in a mess? I have been reading about the Directors falling out over which £500,000 investment to take up. There are valid criticisms to be made about McCall such as his reluctance to use sports science and match analysis but he didn't set the playing budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted October 22, 2023 Report Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, Winter of '63 said: Are we financially in a mess? I have been reading about the Directors falling out over which £500,000 investment to take up. There are valid criticisms to be made about McCall such as his reluctance to use sports science and match analysis but he didn't set the playing budget. 9 minutes ago, Winter of '63 said: Mansell was signed by Caldwell. Akinola looked a good defender until whatever happened, Brownlie likewise until he got injured. Not sure who Lyons is but I am perplexed why James Lyon was given a two year extension but is behind Williamson, Alston & McInroy who have been overwhelmingly unimpressive. Blair Lyons Re James Lyon , came into the team , did well and also scored a few goals, now can’t even get into the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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