GrantB Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 See he's not wasted too much time to come back sniffing around our players. According to today's BBC sports gossip page, he's offered Paton a pre-contract. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/scottish/gossip/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 See he's not wasted too much time to come back sniffing around our players. According to today's BBC sports gossip page, he's offered Paton a pre-contract. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/scottish/gossip/ Hardly a surprise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifu03340 Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Would be a loss but not the end of the world. We've lost better and always coped! Not sure he's up to that standard to be honest but it was clear he was a favourite of Jackies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G SUS Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Source: Daily Star. I'll take it with a pinch of salt, no offence. If Dundee United were to come in for Paton I'm not so certain he'd go. I think being Captain of Thistle is a MASSIVE thing for him and may be the key to keeping him here, regardless of whether we win promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Paton has been one of our stand outs this season. If he is not up to SPL standard, we are going to have to make huge changes to personnel if we get promoted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kenny Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 If we don't go up then Paton will be off. A chance to play at a higher level on better wages would be difficult to knock back, even if he was captain here. The only way we'll hold on to our out of contract players is if we go up. Thankfully, we will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alx Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 If other teams offer double the wages our players will be off. It still annoys me that BMMMH is playing for Morton, but double the wages (I'm guessing) is a deal closer for anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 If other teams offer double the wages our players will be off. It still annoys me that BMMMH is playing for Morton, but double the wages (I'm guessing) is a deal closer for anybody. If we get promoted, there's probably no good reason why we couldn't double all of our staff's wages. That's how big the difference in income is between the divisions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 As I said in another thread, the only thing worrying me about us giving Archie the job as manager is that he's unproven in being able to bring in new players. Will he have the experience or contacts to replace any players who leave? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peagreenboy Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 If we get promoted, there's probably no good reason why we couldn't double all of our staff's wages. That's how big the difference in income is between the divisions. Of course we could only offer them double wages for a season, as we would have to budget for immediate relegation ... established teams can offer two, three year deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Of course we could only offer them double wages for a season, as we would have to budget for immediate relegation ... established teams can offer two, three year deals. Correct, though that's a big mistake than several teams make (e.g., Dundee, Falkirk, Dunfermline); when they get relegated they are still saddled with big contracts that they need to honour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 It's all about the money and in the past I would be bitter that players leave but now entering into the world of mortgages and grown up stuff if someone offered me more money in my job I would be off like a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fredthecheesecloth Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Paul Paton has an impressive attitude and work ethic. He is about 10 times the player he was years back when he was being linked to premier clubs. If we go up, I would hope he would stay. If we don't, then no problem him leaving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Source: Daily Star. I'll take it with a pinch of salt, no offence. If Dundee United were to come in for Paton I'm not so certain he'd go. I think being Captain of Thistle is a MASSIVE thing for him and may be the key to keeping him here, regardless of whether we win promotion. As Paton said at last season's PotY dance, he has a daughter to provide for. He loves playing for Thistle, but she's his number one priority. In saying that, he did go on to turn down Dundee in favour of us, but if he had the chance to hook up with a manager who got the best from him and increase his wage then I reckon he'll be for the off. As I said in another thread, the only thing worrying me about us giving Archie the job as manager is that he's unproven in being able to bring in new players. Will he have the experience or contacts to replace any players who leave? Are you forgetting MacNamara was a rookie when he brought in Sinclair, Muirhead, etc? Do we think Jackie is better connected simply because he played for Celtic for a large part of his career? The club, rather than any one individual, appears to have a decent network. I have no concerns where new players are concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrills at firhill Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 As Paton said at last season's PotY dance, he has a daughter to provide for. He loves playing for Thistle, but she's his number one priority. In saying that, he did go on to turn down Dundee in favour of us, but if he had the chance to hook up with a manager who got the best from him and increase his wage then I reckon he'll be for the off. Are you forgetting MacNamara was a rookie when he brought in Sinclair, Muirhead, etc? Do we think Jackie is better connected simply because he played for Celtic for a large part of his career? The club, rather than any one individual, appears to have a decent network. I have no concerns where new players are concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Are you forgetting MacNamara was a rookie when he brought in Sinclair, Muirhead, etc? Do we think Jackie is better connected simply because he played for Celtic for a large part of his career? The club, rather than any one individual, appears to have a decent network. I have no concerns where new players are concerned. I had the same concerns when we appointed MacNamara. Hopefully Archie will prove me wrong again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggybunnet Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) If we get promoted, there's probably no good reason why we couldn't double all of our staff's wages. That's how big the difference in income is between the divisions. Is it, by how much? just thinking of extra cost such as policing and stuff and didn't think there was that much difference unless we finish in top 6 Edited March 19, 2013 by jaggybunnet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G SUS Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Since more and more sources are starting to report this, I guess I'll have to accept it's happening. Still think Paton will stay. Being the captain of a double winning side, and keeping them up will prove a lure too great for him to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Or he might be of the opinion that it's better to go out on a high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Is it, by how much? just thinking of extra cost such as policing and stuff and didn't think there was that much difference unless we finish in top 6 Somebody with the time and investigative skills will be able to find just how lucrative the SPL can be compared to the pittance than SFL clubs get as income. Don't forget that the SPL still hands out £500,000 to the team that gets relegated.... that would be like a godsend to us! If that's what they give to the losers, it stands to reason that the others must do quite nicely. (Of course how they choose to fritter it away on stupid money contracts to journeymen players etc. is their problem.) It's also part of the reason I suspect that once their teams get into the "promised land", chairmen suddenly start pronouncing that a small, virtually exclusive top league is "best for the game". What they really mean is that they've finally got their hands on loadsa money and want to hang onto it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kni Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 A key point is whether we have made offers to our players whose contract expire in May. It should be possible to offer contracts with higher wages and bonuses if we are in the SPL. The managerial uncertainty does not help. The board needs to make a permanent appointment quickly, preferably before the end of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G SUS Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Or he might be of the opinion that it's better to go out on a high. He might, that is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) Since more and more sources are starting to report this, I guess I'll have to accept it's happening. Still think Paton will stay. Being the captain of a double winning side, and keeping them up will prove a lure too great for him to leave. Would think the fact that he will, at the very least, be doubling his wages and going to a manager that he knows very well, swing the balance. Who in their right mind would knock back a 100% wage increase for doing the same job?? I like PP but would be more upset if Muirhead, Erskine and O'Donnell left. Think most of our players are going to be major targets for a lot of clubs next season, whether we go up or not. Sadly a part of life being a jags fan. Last thing we want is turning into the next Dunfermline Edited March 19, 2013 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 Paton referred to Jackie as like a 'second dad' and said he'd transformed his whole life in an interview just after he left. I'm pretty sure he'll be off. I don't begrudge players leaving at the end of the season for more money. I'm sure some could have left in January but they didn't. Paton stuck around this year when he could have left for more money. He's having to work a second job as well. Be annoying if they all go to Dundee United but what can you do. Hopefully SOD, Paton and Erskine are about the only ones that leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 The managerial uncertainty does not help. The board needs to make a permanent appointment quickly, preferably before the end of the month. The Board might be approaching this from a "what league will we be in" viewpoint. The Board might well want to appoint a manager quickly but are reluctant to because of this uncertainty over status. I can think of quite a few reasons for this reluctance and most not solely to do with Archie's performance to date. I don't believe everything Beattie & Co have done to date has been ideal. Far from it, but I think in this instance I'm inclined to trust their judgment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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