Muscat Jag Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Yes Allyo, you've made me fell bad now for picking on the poor little racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 If it was Prince who was the victim, what are others thoughts about getting a banner made up to show him our support at the ICT game? "There's only one Pricne Bauben - PTFC Legend" or something along those lines just as an example. Or Apologies if this is something Prince would rather just forget. I hope they do a spellcheck on that banner TL!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I'm glad that the club has dealt with this swiftly and decisively. If it is true that the perpetrator was identified directly by the police then it is a good sign. Hopefully they will be as diligent at our next home game. Perhaps the Celtic game should become an anti-racist, anti-sectarian vehicle supported by relevant organisations. Let's show them all what our club stands for. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Shameful news and us already said well done the club in getting this idiot removed hopefully permanently from Firhill. Did millions not die to defeat this evil in 1945. Shameful that we still have these clowns in the 21st century. If it was Prince who was the victim, what are others thoughts about getting a banner made up to show him our support at the ICT game? "There's only one Pricne Bauben - PTFC Legend" or something along those lines just as an example. Or Apologies if this is something Prince would rather just forget. Or another alternative would be a very large Ghana flag to bring up, which again I would be more than happy to contribute too If anyone thinks its a good idea I would happily send them a donation for it to be created, unfortunately I cant make the game in Inverness this saturday, so the least I could do is make a donation if anyone thinks this is a good idea or not. There's been a Ghana flag in the North Stand for the last 2 home games. Sits proudly beside the catalan and Mexican flags, representing our 3 players who originate from outside the British Isles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Was it near the side of the City End? I was sitting near the back and saw the cops grab him and lead him away. There was no arguing there and it was the type of proactive zero tolerance policing that should be commended. The guy should get a boot up the arse but it would also be good if he was made to meet and apologise to the player he was abusing. That would surely make him realise how stupid his comments were and maybe turn this into something more positive. On a side note of this incident there was a comedy sideways scene where a guy who was pissed was raging about everything and nothing and being told to quieten down by his mates then walked down to get involved. I never saw him return either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Was it near the side of the City End? I was sitting near the back and saw the cops grab him and lead him away. There was no arguing there and it was the type of proactive zero tolerance policing that should be commended. The guy should get a boot up the arse but it would also be good if he was made to meet and apologise to the player he was abusing. That would surely make him realise how stupid his comments were and maybe turn this into something more positive. On a side note of this incident there was a comedy sideways scene where a guy who was pissed was raging about everything and nothing and being told to quieten down by his mates then walked down to get involved. I never saw him return either. Prince shouldn't have to be anywhere near this guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDFA Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 The club's openness about this, and swiftness of action, is utterly commendable. We're a pretty enlightened bunch us Jags supporters; I'd happily go out on a limb and say I reckon we have somewhat less than our fair share of idiots in our number compared to other clubs. However, I doubt any of us have ever been under the impression that we're immune to this sort of thing. This guy's an embarrassment to the rest of us, and I hope whatever action is taken against him by the police and the club really makes a difference to how he sees the world... As for banners, etc., I imagine the player in question wouldn't want that amount of fuss. A big, loud, warm round of applause the next time he runs out in a Thistle shirt seems fitting though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Yes Allyo, you've made me fell bad now for picking on the poor little racist. Not directed at you. I'd say feel free to have a go. I agree. It's just specifically any clamour for "naming and shaming" that I'd object to. A dangerous road to go down and one I hope we avoid on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 shocking to hear about this, does anyone know if Prince actually heard what the guy shouted? Higgy obviously heard what was shouted at him from a 'fan', so I hope Prince didn't hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) I saw him walking up Firhill Street before the game - he was bouncing off the tenement walls and I was amazed he made it into the ground. The police obviously had an eye on him as he was huckled within seconds of shouting his two-word abuse. I doubt PB would have heard it out on the park, not that that lessens it in any way. He was sitting beside the exit nearest the City End. Edited March 17, 2014 by Charlie Endell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Not directed at you. I'd say feel free to have a go. I agree. It's just specifically any clamour for "naming and shaming" that I'd object to. A dangerous road to go down and one I hope we avoid on here. When I said name and shame them I meant I hope the club name the culprit and ensure that he never enters Firhill again. Can't see that this is any different to the young East Stirling player that was racially abused up at Peterhead. That guy got his day in court and was all over the papers, let's hope this cretin ends up in court as well. Edited March 17, 2014 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Fair enough. As long as it's left up to the authorities. Though (edited to add), I'm not actually 100% convinced that being an ignorant, offensive prick should be a criminal offense. Edited March 17, 2014 by allyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Applaud the clubs actions wholeheartedly, although the only caveat I'd add is that I'm anxious not to be seen as part of a lynch mob and the rule of law must be seen to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 With the benefit of hindsight I can see now that the lynchmob mentality is not the answer here, and have edited my original post accordingly. You often hear of the wrong person being identified in these situations and that is something I definitely wouldn't want to happen. That being said, if the case is brought to court then the guy's name will be freely available and could easily end up being reported in the press, especially on the back of the club's statement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebiglemon Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) This sort thing was rife in society as recently as the 80's- look at Mark Walters - 3 weeks of banana throwing and we've had culprits at Firhill in the past. And the Rangers fan's response was "I'd rather be a darkie than a Tim" .Staggering! I mentioned the "Paul Wilson- he's jungle fresh" chant before and got lambasted on here. No one, including me, was that bothered at the time. We have moved on. I hope this idiot sobers up and publically apologises to the rest of the support, the club and especially the black players in our team. He will know he is wrong and unless he's an utter fud will be very ashamed. The police and the club have dealt with it correctly. Edited March 17, 2014 by thebiglemon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrantB Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Given the recent negative publicity Peterhead FC have had over the last few weeks, I'm really sad that a Jags fan has resorted to this. It's bad enough racially abusing an opposition player but to do it to one of our own is shameful. Big well done to the club for dealing with it straight away and releasing a statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Gekantawa Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 It's bad enough racially abusing an opposition player but to do it to one of our own is shameful. Absolutely no difference as far as I'm concerned 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Just my own general view but I don't like lifetime bans. I don't particularly care whether this guy is banned from Firhill for 5, 10 or 20 years but every misdemeanour should be judged separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Col Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) Regrettably not the first time that racial abuse has been heard at a Jags game from a Jags fan. Game at Livingston a few years ago when Armand One came on to the pitch only for one ar5e in our support to refer to him as a "black f***er". He too was a well known face at games. And the other shameful thing was no-one apart from me said anything to him about it. Everyone else just seemed to look the other way. Edited March 17, 2014 by Big Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Regrettably not the first time that racial abuse has been heard at a Jags game from a Jags fan. Game at Livingston a few years ago when Armand One came on to the pitch only for one ar5e in our support to refer to him as a "black f***er". He too was a well known face at games. And the other shameful thing was no-one apart from me said anything to him about it. Everyone else just seemed to look the other way. I bet he wouldn't have said that in a face-to-face situation with Armand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z88 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 Story is now in the Herald. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/prosecutors-examine-report-on-alleged-racist-abuse-of-partick-thistle-star.1395096256 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Story is now in the Herald. http://www.heraldsco...star.1395096256 Also featured on Sky Sports News. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I gather that the man has now been named in today's papers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milhouse Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Huckled away by the Police, who we all know have a great track record for tolerance and race relations. A lifetime ban from football - would the punishment fit the crime? The world would be a better place if nobody really cared about somebody's "race" or "colour." We wouldn't even notice it and would never have to talk about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Endell Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Fair play to the police for acting so quickly but it was clear to me that this guy should never have been allowed through the turnstiles - it's years since I've seen someone so drunk at a football match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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