David Stevenson Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Unfortunately the club must be fairly certain to take such a drastic course of action, if Jordan Mcmillan needs help to work out any problems he has then the club should offer that , if the claims are unsubstantiated then I can't see any way back for Jordan as the trust between manager and player has now gone. Eh? So if it turns out that McMillan has done nothing wrong he is toast? You've lost me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Unfortunately the club must be fairly certain to take such a drastic course of action, if Jordan Mcmillan needs help to work out any problems he has then the club should offer that , if the claims are unsubstantiated then I can't see any way back for Jordan as the trust between manager and player has now gone. if the trust had gone he would have already been out the club a couple of weeks back. I could be wrong but the fact he is suspended may be Archie or whoever giving him a chance to sort himself out, get better or whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 if the trust had gone he would have already been out the club a couple of weeks back. I could be wrong but the fact he is suspended may be Archie or whoever giving him a chance to sort himself out, get better or whatever I'm not so sure that Mcmillan would have been training for the best part of a month , if he was why would Archie say on the website on a Thursday that the player is unavailable to play on the Saturday due to personal reasons . It sounds like the club knew it was going to hit the media and had to be seen to do something . We don't know for sure when Jordan's suspension from the club actually started , it could have been 3 weeks ago for all we know . If your boss or company suspended you , would you want to work for them again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I'm not so sure that Mcmillan would have been training for the best part of a month , if he was why would Archie say on the website on a Thursday that the player is unavailable to play on the Saturday due to personal reasons . It sounds like the club knew it was going to hit the media and had to be seen to do something . We don't know for sure when Jordan's suspension from the club actually started , it could have been 3 weeks ago for all we know . If your boss or company suspended you , would you want to work for them again ? if I was say an alcoholic or something and the suspension was to help me get my life sorted out or to seek help then i don't see why I wouldn't want to work for them. Paul Paton was suspended hasn't stopped him not wanting to work for his employer again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 if I was say an alcoholic or something and the suspension was to help me get my life sorted out or to seek help then i don't see why I wouldn't want to work for them. Paul Paton was suspended hasn't stopped him not wanting to work for his employer again Think Mcmillan has already went to the PFA to appeal the suspension , so think the circumstances are slightly different . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neily Jag Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Set up an account on follow follow to see the rumours and cant even see the thread? Can anyone shed any light on this so i can delete my account from that scummy website, or just dm me Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Scimmia Rossa Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) Paul Paton wasn't suspended on full pay. He was left out of the squad. I actually think of a player being suspended in this way in last few years? Edited January 9, 2015 by La Scimmia Rossa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Set up an account on follow follow to see the rumours and cant even see the thread? Can anyone shed any light on this so i can delete my account from that scummy website, or just dm me Cheers You shouldn't have went on there at all. You deserve all you get! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Think Mcmillan has already went to the PFA to appeal the suspension , so think the circumstances are slightly different . I'm not sure what the "suspension" actually means. He's getting full pay (without bonuses), so does it mean he must stay away from Firhill, the squad etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 I'm not sure what the "suspension" actually means. He's getting full pay (without bonuses), so does it mean he must stay away from Firhill, the squad etc? Yup. Usually means staying away from the workplace until a diciplinary meeting is arranged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Suspension means an employee is basically not required to attend for work , most often in full pay but not always , whilst an investigation is carried out in to whatever the allegations/issues/events etc are... An investigation is carried out which results in either disciplinary proceedings being started or the employee is re-instated You can guess by this that this will only happen in serious circumstances and does not happen in the football world very often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambies Lost Doo Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 My wife works for NHS in HR and suspension on full pay is a common practice. At the end of they day football is a job. If you do wrong you follow the employment law process to protect both parties. I myself was made redundant a while ago and every box had to be ticked with employment lawyers etc while I could not speak to people about it even though it was something that was a pretty straight forward process. First time I had been involved in that type of bureucracy and from my limited knowledge club are giving limited info as it is an internal matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Were fans always so demanding of details or has widespread access to the internet and social media fueled their sense of entitlement? It's clear from the statement that the club wishes to keep the details private while it conducts its investigation yet you have people who are happy to potentially damage that process in an effort to satisfy their own curiosity. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifu02348 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Can someone PM me the rumours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagman1876 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Dark Passenger - blah blah blah - reveal yourself as JM or please just STFU !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Idiot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagman1876 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Lack of vocabulary skills shining through yet again - funnily enough fellow jags fans page on facebook quite openly discussing n posting pics of potential wrongdoings without fear of repercussions - quite a few scaredy cats on here it would appear - DP being at the forefront Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Passenger Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (edited) fellow jags fans Says a lot. Anyway, how can you "openly" discuss things on a private group? Idiot. Edited January 9, 2015 by Dark Passenger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagman1876 Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 DP - only one idiot around here my friend You really are very uneducated lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 You pair know each other, right? Are you married? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 You pair know each other, right? Are you married? would you marry jagsfan1876 bearing in mind he is a rangers fan lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 Idiot. Allegedly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljaggo Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 This topic should be closed by the moderator. It is serving no useful purpose whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Brother Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 This topic should be closed by the moderator. It is serving no useful purpose whatsoever. Good call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Nixon Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 This topic should be closed by the moderator. It is serving no useful purpose whatsoever. I said that about six bloody pages ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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