Lindau Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Too true. I fear Lindau by using cliches at the end of the day is setting his stall out too early. It's not even the business end of the season yet. Boom, boom....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted December 27, 2015 Report Share Posted December 27, 2015 Truth is there is very little between most teams in this Division. The breaks we never got in the first 9 games we've had in the last 9. Archie's no better or worse than he was previously and neither is the playing squad. If County had taken advantage of our mistakes at Firhill we could have been 2 or 3 down by half time. Had that happened we would be joint bottom with Killie now and the moaners would be out in force. As it happens, we didn't though: we got out of jail and got the break for the OG also then finished the game off professionally and are now in 6th. The next two games are really tough and the likelihood is we will get nothing. Decent performances are important for morale but any points at all would be a bonus for me. Dundee at Firhill on the 16th is a big one! Hopefully St. Miirren continue on the Alex Rae trajectory..... Agree more or less entirety: although, I,would add that when we're in the mood we tend to be more of a footballing team than most of our opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpool Jags Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Too true. I fear Lindau by using cliches at the end of the day is setting his stall out too early. It's not even the business end of the season yet. That's all good and well, but it's a results industry when all's said and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 That's all good and well, but it's a results industry when all's said and done. It's still early doors. Every game is different, and the next one is just like all the rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Rubble Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 Exactly, but fear not, the lurkers will be back telling us Archie is a dud that never learns and we need a change. Don't be surprised or amazed if it happens next weekend if we suffer two back to back defeats YAWN.................. The same old tired blues from the same old tired poster. What is it that you do not understand about us all having different opinions about reaching the same objective? This has been probably the best month in 40 years to be a Jags fan. so why do you delight in being a narky negative ******* towards fellow Jags supporters? My offer of a pint with you while I am home for Christmas is still open. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sunnylaw Jag Posted December 28, 2015 Report Share Posted December 28, 2015 YAWN.................. The same old tired blues from the same old tired poster. What is it that you do not understand about us all having different opinions about reaching the same objective? This has been probably the best month in 40 years to be a Jags fan. so why do you delight in being a narky negative ******* towards fellow Jags supporters? My offer of a pint with you while I am home for Christmas is still open. How many people is that open to Barney? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) YAWN.................. The same old tired blues from the same old tired poster. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! Still coming from the person that stated The Cup was one of the most intelligent posters on here, I take that as a compliment Barney me ole son!...lol Edited December 29, 2015 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) This has been probably the best month in 40 years to be a Jags fan. so why do you delight in being a narky negative ******* towards fellow Jags supporters? You know me Barney, so for once just answer a question.....where have these so called fellow jags supporters been in the last month, 6 weeks? Answers on a postcard...lol Edited December 29, 2015 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javeajag Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 And where have these so called supporters been in the last month? Answers on a postcard...lol Wish you were here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Wish you were here.... Glad I ain't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) It's incredible how these posters never learn their lesson year after year. The calls for Archie's head were completely futile anyway - Beattie has stated several times that he would not be sacked, even in the event of relegation. That gives us a stability that no other club in the league has, certainly not in the bottom 6. With regards to getting more people to come to the games. The simple way to do that would be to lower the gate price, but that won't happen. The club make more money from 2,000 paying punters at £22 than they would 2,500 paying £15. For attendances to increase long term then there has to be large scale fundamental change throughout the whole of Scottish Football. Edited December 29, 2015 by ian_mac 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 With regards to getting more people to come to the games. The simple way to do that would be to lower the gate price, but that won't happen. The club make more money from 2,000 paying punters at £22 than they would 2,500 paying £15. For attendances to increase long term then there has to be large scale fundamental change throughout the whole of Scottish Football. Gate price is an issue but by lowering it X% is unlikely to see an increase in patg customers of anything like X&. If all the absent support lived within a square mile or so of Firhill it would be different. But when you add on travelling expenses whether it be fuel or fare, food & drink plus other sundries it marginalises any reduction. Even a £5 reduction at the gate could mean as little as an overall reduction of 10% to someone not living that far away from the city. I just don't believe that would be enough carrot to see gates increase significantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Gate price is an issue but by lowering it X% is unlikely to see an increase in patg customers of anything like X&. I'm firmly of the opinion that lowering gate prices will not result in much of an increase in attendance. A couple of months ago I went to see Roskilde vs Hobro in the Danish Cup, the tie being roughly equivalent to a present day meeting between Queen of the South and Dundee United. A local business sponsored the game to the extent where they paid for it to be free entry. The attendance ended up only a few dozen higher than their average. Letting the city in for free only resulted in a small increase in beer sales. Caley Thistle along with some others have experimented with "pay what you want" and I'm sure I would have heard had numbers vastly increased. I don't see how dropping the ticket price by a few quid will have a measurable effect on Thistle attendances. Back on topic, there was a time where I thought Archie was for it. I didn't want him to go but the table was looking bleak. If that poor run had continued into Collins territory then I would have understood if he was politely thanked for his efforts. Twenty points in the last nine is outstanding form which if kept up is the sort to win you a summer holiday to Yerevan or Podgorica. Archie is a relatively inexperienced manager and I feel that learning from your mistakes is one of the most important things anyone can do. I'm glad the board gave Archie the time to learn from his mistakes and I would be delighted if he's still making the odd error at Firhill many years from now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) It would be financial suicide for the club to drop the gate price to £15 and the only way it could be done is by dropping through the leagues....which no one wants. To be fair, the club have tried all sorts to get bums on seats from reduced 2/3 game packages and freebie giveaways. An idea to get people into the Aitken before or after the game might be a pie/pint and match ticket for £25 . That would take the entry down to around £20 but hopefully they would recoup that loss, with the person buying a couple of pints in the Aitken Edited December 29, 2015 by Lindau Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potty trained Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 The only thing we've not tried is an extended cup run in the league or Scottish cups. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 The only thing we've not tried is an extended cup run in the league or Scottish cups. Or home ties against teams from Yerevan or Podgorica 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 The only thing we've not tried is an extended cup run in the league or Scottish cups. Or push for a European space, yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 It would be financial suicide for the club to drop the gate price to £15 and the only way it could be done is by dropping through the leagues....which no one wants. To be fair, the club have tried all sorts to get bums on seats from reduced 2/3 game packages and freebie giveaways. An idea to get people into the Aitken before or after the game might be a pie/pint and match ticket for £25 . That would take the entry down to around £20 but hopefully they would recoup that loss, with the person buying a couple of pints in the Aitken That's a good idea; hope somebody who could put that into operation reads this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 It would be financial suicide for the club to drop the gate price to £15 and the only way it could be done is by dropping through the leagues....which no one wants. To be fair, the club have tried all sorts to get bums on seats from reduced 2/3 game packages and freebie giveaways. An idea to get people into the Aitken before or after the game might be a pie/pint and match ticket for £25 . That would take the entry down to around £20 but hopefully they would recoup that loss, with the person buying a couple of pints in the Aitken I'd say that's a case of everyone a winner but it's only scratching at the surface. I think an overriding problem is that any reduction has to be offered to away fans irrespective of whether they do reciprocal offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I'd say that's a case of everyone a winner but it's only scratching at the surface. I think an overriding problem is that any reduction has to be offered to away fans irrespective of whether they do reciprocal offers. Don't see that being a problem. If it gets away supporters into our bars it's a win/win situation.....as long as they buy at least another pint! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I don't know this, but wouldn't surprise me if there is some law against selling alcohol and admission to the football on the same ticket. But I would agree that it sounds a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Don't see that being a problem. If it gets away supporters into our bars it's a win/win situation.....as long as they buy at least another pint! Sorry, Lindau, I agree. My 2nd para was a generality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillresigned Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Or push for a European space, yet Or sign Lionel Messi, on loan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Earl of Hathaway Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I don't know this, but wouldn't surprise me if there is some law against selling alcohol and admission to the football on the same ticket. But I would agree that it sounds a good idea. I would imagine you could issue vouchers with the match ticket that could be exchanged for food and drink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindau Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 I would imagine you could issue vouchers with the match ticket that could be exchanged for food and drink Yep, voucher for a pie at the kiosk, voucher for a pint before or after the game in the Aitken and a match ticket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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