Mr Bunny Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 ^^ This has all been gone over before. Agents like to sell players, as they get a cut. So in any contract discussions the "trigger" fee for selling a player will be set with this is mind - the club will argue for a higher fee but in the end they have to settle for some sort of compromise or the player won't sign or will only sign on for a short deal when you want him for 2-3 seasons. It's been made clear that both clubs met the trigger fee whatever that was and that will be c. £300K. The club will be able to insist on add-ons and try to make the best deal regardless. However there's no way really big money would be offered unless 2 or 3 clubs got into a bidding war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 If he's under contract, then he's bound to the club for the duration of the contract and the club would have a say in the fees required to pry him away. We valued him at 750k a month or two ago. I don't understand what changed unless he had a specific clause in his contract that anyone offering 350k could come in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 We valued him at 750k a month or two ago. Did we? You mean the fans did. I've never seen any valuation by the club and none of us know if he had a release valuation clause in his contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgaejag Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) As many others have said. He might have a clause in his contract which means we have no choice but to accept it. There is no point moaning about the fee because with a sell on fee and the performance clauses it could go up to or even exceed our valuation (roughly £750k) Edited June 20, 2017 by lithgaejag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiThistle Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Did we? You mean the fans did. I've never seen any valuation by the club and none of us know if he had a release valuation clause in his contract Reported in Daily Record (possibly others) that we had a 750k valuation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayfarer Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Reported in Daily Record (possibly others) that we had a 750k valuation. Which may or may not be true. If it is I'd expect the valuation to be the initial fee plus add ons whether sell on percentage, appearances or Scotland caps or whatever, added together that may take the total to £750k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Reported in Daily Record (possibly others) that we had a 750k valuation. Must be true then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Reported in Daily Record (possibly others) that we had a 750k valuation. This will be the article http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/partick-thistle-stopper-liam-lindsay-10396606 I guess they got Bolton & Charlton wrong as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 As many others have said. He might have a clause in his contract which means we have no choice but to accept it. There is no point moaning about the fee because with a sell on fee and the performance clauses it could go up to or even exceed our valuation (roughly £750k) Exactly. If it was reported that Liam was being sold for a straight £750K, paid in instalments with no add ons or sell ons, would everybody be happier? For all we know he could go to Barnsley for £350K, play say 40 games and trigger an add on of £250K. He subsequently gets sold to Stoke City for £2m and we get a 20% sell on fee. We're £1m for the deal, Barnsley have made money and Lindsay's as pleased as Punch. That of course is just daft conjecture based on nothing. I reckon I'm on much safer ground when I say we can't be seen to be holding back the progress of one of our home grown players. Liam moving on to better things will be a real selling point for the Academy. Something tangible rather than merely promising. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Whatever the reason for the £350k fee, does anyone seriously think that the club are deliberately selling Liam for less than they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 And don't forget, a few seasons back we'd have been in raptures over someone bidding £350,000 for one of our players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 A record transfer fee for the club if/ when this goes through. I wonder how Archie will reinvest any money added to the playing budget? Will we maybe look at a small transfer/ development fee for a suitable candidate? I reckon we will stay within the general strategy of looking at younger players who have maybe been kept back by a lack of game time for whatever reason. Archie looking for a left sided replacement going by the piece in today's Evening Times. Shame we missed the boat on Kelly that went to County but there are hundreds of players out there looking for a gig so I'm confident we can add one or two gems. Personally I'd like some pace added to the attack and perhaps another fullback or at least someone that can play the position better than Stevie Lawless Any cash left over can be spent on a giant statue of Kris Doolan to tower over the City End! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Who needs Lindsay. We'very just re-signed Kingsley. Squad complete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougie247 Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Pretty sure any fee we get will go back in to the academy.. Was that not one of the conditions of the academy being setup?: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian_mac Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 ^^^ True but I'd imagine a part of it will go to the academy or else how could it be self-sustaining (which must be the ultimate aim)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bunny Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) A record transfer fee for the club if/ when this goes through. I did give the quoted fee a bit of a boost and in pure numeric terms it would be a record and it certainly would be the best we've had for a few years (I think we got 100K plus for Gary Harkins in fortunate circumstances and that was the biggest then for a long time) . However if you take inflation into account the 200K we got for Mo Johnson would be worth at least 500K in today's money. Of course the Harkins money went straight to the tax man, whereas anything we get if Lindsay is sold is profit (though to be re-invested immediately). Edited June 21, 2017 by Mr Bunny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagsman Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 not to forget the 250k for jack hendry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 not to forget the 250k for jack hendry That fee was closer to £100,000. Still a decent bit of business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen1876 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Officially a Tykes player now. All the very best Liam! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rid Skwerr Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Sorry to see him go. Hope it goes well for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paukea Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Massive loss..Good Luck Liam and Thank You! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokiejag Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Being selfish I hoped Liam would stay, however I'm delighted he has achieved a move to a Championship club. Very best wishes Big Man in the next stage of your career and thanks for some great performance s over the last couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen1876 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Barnsley could be a great move - they have progressed both John Stones and Alfie Mawson in recent years, could really push Liam on, which would be to our advantage too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggy Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Good luck Liam. Sad to see you go, but it was bound to happen. Let's just hope most of the fee can be reinvested in the first team. And maybe we can get some extra money from appearances or sell on fee in the future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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