jags on tour Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 21 hours ago, Fearchar said: Isn't José looking for a gig just now? More seriously, it's not long since Donald Park (former player, plenty of experience with youth) retired - a couple of months to top up the pension? (Actually, he might make a useful scout.) he would be a good coach! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QXBoy Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, jags on tour said: he would be a good coach! But would he be the sort of manager to "park the bus"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, milhouse said: What do you mean by this? I'd hope PTFC would be all about winning football matches. For me, Gary Caldwell has a few more games left to aee if he can do that. Partick Thistle are a Community club , there always should be a connection between the fans and the Club , that’s obviously not happening just now for a variety of reasons . If we were all just about winning football matches , think we’ve all picked the wrong team to support 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semi Nurainen Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Yes, and the final straw for most people wasn't about it results it was about the way Erksine was treated. The arrogance of Cauld Kale and his belief that we wouldn't see through his pathetic attempt via the Firhill Pravda to stage-manage the situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Players like Erskine & Doolan will always define what Thistle are about; they will be remembered long after Caldwell has gone. It’s that thing about the ‘culture’ within a Club; so difficult to quantify, but you recognise when the manager doesn’t understand it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, sandy said: Players like Erskine & Doolan will always define what Thistle are about; they will be remembered long after Caldwell has gone. It’s that thing about the ‘culture’ within a Club; so difficult to quantify, but you recognise when the manager doesn’t understand it. Stevie lawless as well - only guy who really gave 110 per cent in the 2 playoff games and was absolutely gutted at the final whistle and who we have Archie to thank for getting rid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weebaw1 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, sandy said: Players like Erskine & Doolan will always define what Thistle are about; they will be remembered long after Caldwell has gone. It’s that thing about the ‘culture’ within a Club; so difficult to quantify, but you recognise when the manager doesn’t understand it. I agree Sandy and I liked your earlier post too. This is why I was so disappointed about the Erskine departure. I suspect this is why you were a defender of Archie. But I disagreed with you on that one because he had taken us as far as he could. Caldwell has no appreciation of the culture, community spirit, lack of bias(almost liberalism) about Thistle. He should go and manage Skelmersdale Utd. We shall see on Saturday whether we are any better than Archie’s reign. Remember we jumped Stranraer 5-0 earlier on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, sandy said: Players like Erskine & Doolan will always define what Thistle are about; they will be remembered long after Caldwell has gone. It’s that thing about the ‘culture’ within a Club; so difficult to quantify, but you recognise when the manager doesn’t understand it. Agree. I will remember Caldwell as being amongst the worst managers I have ever seen managing Thistle . Since I have supported Thistle for more than 55 years I have seen some 'warmers' in the Thistle hot seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, Weebaw1 said: I agree Sandy and I liked your earlier post too. This is why I was so disappointed about the Erskine departure. I suspect this is why you were a defender of Archie. But I disagreed with you on that one because he had taken us as far as he could. Caldwell has no appreciation of the culture, community spirit, lack of bias(almost liberalism) about Thistle. He should go and manage Skelmersdale Utd. We shall see on Saturday whether we are any better than Archie’s reign. Remember we jumped Stranraer 5-0 earlier on! You obviously don't like Skelmersdale Utd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Weebaw1 said: I agree Sandy and I liked your earlier post too. This is why I was so disappointed about the Erskine departure. I suspect this is why you were a defender of Archie. But I disagreed with you on that one because he had taken us as far as he could. Caldwell has no appreciation of the culture, community spirit, lack of bias(almost liberalism) about Thistle. He should go and manage Skelmersdale Utd. We shall see on Saturday whether we are any better than Archie’s reign. Remember we jumped Stranraer 5-0 earlier on! Cheers weebaw1. People like Lambie & Archie would have bled red and yellow if you cut them open. The Jags were part of their DNA as much as it is for Erskine & Doolan. I think in hindsight, Archie & Shaggy we’re drained by the effort to keep us up in the Premier over a number of seasons. I should have seen that, but I always gave (and will give) Archie the credit for his years of service to the Club. But we are where we are, looking to the future. And the rebuild and our sustainability is not something that Caldwell can be a part of. I just don’t think he gets the Jags; he has tried to use us to get a gig back in the English Championship. Well, that’s going well ain’t it! Edited January 17, 2019 by sandy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags on tour Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Gary Caldwell in the news again..... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/46899404 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, jags on tour said: Gary Caldwell in the news again..... https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/football/46899404 I wish our manager was anywhere near as good as Bielsa, he is going to win the English Championship. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KemoAvdiu Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Third Lanark said: Stevie lawless as well - only guy who really gave 110 per cent in the 2 playoff games and was absolutely gutted at the final whistle and who we have Archie to thank for getting rid Archie is another to add to the list. A colossal figure in our history regardless of how it ended. So quit the snide wee unnecessary digs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, KemoAvdiu said: Archie is another to add to the list. A colossal figure in our history regardless of how it ended. So quit the snide wee unnecessary digs. Archie was bloody hopeless from top 6 year onwards. Absolutely rank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KemoAvdiu Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 25 minutes ago, Garscube Road End said: Archie was bloody hopeless from top 6 year onwards. Absolutely rank. So he was hopeless after having made over 400 appearances (many as captain), having secured us promotion in glorious fashion, having kept us up for more seasons than in many decades, and having secured our highest finish in god knows how many years (was it 40 odd years?). Aye you’re right. What did he ever do for us? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, KemoAvdiu said: So he was hopeless after having made over 400 appearances (many as captain), having secured us promotion in glorious fashion, having kept us up for more seasons than in many decades, and having secured our highest finish in god knows how many years (was it 40 odd years?). Aye you’re right. What did he ever do for us? 17 minutes ago, KemoAvdiu said: So he was hopeless after having made over 400 appearances (many as captain), having secured us promotion in glorious fashion, having kept us up for more seasons than in many decades, and having secured our highest finish in god knows how many years (was it 40 odd years?). Aye you’re right. What did he ever do for us? 36 Years. But the rest is spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG1970 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Auld Jag said: Agree. I will remember Caldwell as being amongst the worst managers I have ever seen managing Thistle . Since I have supported Thistle for more than 55 years I have seen some 'warmers' in the Thistle hot seat. That got me thinking.... Johnstone, McVey, Clark, Bryce, Dick... yip Caldwell is possibly in there with the worst of them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandy Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, KemoAvdiu said: So he was hopeless after having made over 400 appearances (many as captain), having secured us promotion in glorious fashion, having kept us up for more seasons than in many decades, and having secured our highest finish in god knows how many years (was it 40 odd years?). Aye you’re right. What did he ever do for us? ‘What have the Romans ever done for us?’ REG: All right, but apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, a fresh water system, and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us? XERXES: Brought peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Lanark Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, KemoAvdiu said: Archie is another to add to the list. A colossal figure in our history regardless of how it ended. So quit the snide wee unnecessary digs. In my opinion the guy has played his part in getting us into this mess. Stop your greeting you don’t agree that’s fine. It’s a forum though about different opinions so get used to it or don’t post Edited January 17, 2019 by Third Lanark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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laukat Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, JAG1970 said: That got me thinking.... Johnstone, McVey, Clark, Bryce, Dick... yip Caldwell is possibly in there with the worst of them... I think there is probably a Thistle cr@p manager scale with peak keek being Campbell. In my view Caldwell prior to the Erskine episode was in the pack with Benny Rooney, Derek Johnstone, Gerry Collins, Derek Whyte/Gerry Britton and Murdo McLeod. However post Erskine Caldwell has now shot past Sandy Clark into 2nd spot behind the 'miner's boy' Only reason Caldwell is in second spot is he hasn't dissapointed over such a prolonged period as the current Abroath manager. In short Caldwell is not a D@ck yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garscube Road End Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, KemoAvdiu said: So he was hopeless after having made over 400 appearances (many as captain), having secured us promotion in glorious fashion, having kept us up for more seasons than in many decades, and having secured our highest finish in god knows how many years (was it 40 odd years?). Aye you’re right. What did he ever do for us? And then undone all that work and left us in the mess we are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, laukat said: I think there is probably a Thistle cr@p manager scale with peak keek being Campbell. In my view Caldwell prior to the Erskine episode was in the pack with Benny Rooney, Derek Johnstone, Gerry Collins, Derek Whyte/Gerry Britton and Murdo McLeod. However post Erskine Caldwell has now shot past Sandy Clark into 2nd spot behind the 'miner's boy' Only reason Caldwell is in second spot is he hasn't dissapointed over such a prolonged period as the current Abroath manager. In short Caldwell is not a D@ck yet Think Caldwell is an odds on favourite to take over the No 1 slot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibble Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Caldwell knows he’s in the shit and is rolling the dice to try and get out of it and turn things around. I reckon he thinks it isn’t going to turn around so the roll of the dice is to bring in new faces and let as may go . He must have his reasons for those who have went. It’s not an impossibility he won’t keep us up and the gamble pays off. If he does kee pus up then the gamble will have paid off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowenBoys Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 If he keeps us up from this position, it will be a miracle of biblical proportions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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