Fawlty Towers Posted July 26, 2019 Report Share Posted July 26, 2019 Our U16/17 team are currently in Northern Ireland taking part in the Foyle Cup. They won their group with 3 wins out of 3 and have now won 2 more games to reach tomorrow's final. Our U15s are in Iceland taking part in the Rey Cup. They won 2 and lost 1 of their group games and are in the semi final to be played tomorrow. With Evan Galasso and Callum Wilson having had game time in the first team as we topped our League Cup group and a graduate of the youth academy, Aidan Fitzpatrick, having moved to an English Premiership side for several hundred thousand pounds there is a lot to be positive about. Good luck to both of our youth teams over the weekend and to the first team over the season! C'mon the Jags! 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Good experience for the youngsters. Good luck to them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Great to hear, makes me re consider some of my posts in the now forgotten youth academy folding post. Thanks for the info Farty Towels. Any idea who the opposition was/is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Thistleberight said: Great to hear, makes me re consider some of my posts in the now forgotten youth academy folding post. Thanks for the info Farty Towels. Any idea who the opposition was/is? Probably worth having a look on Thistle Weir Youth Academy facebook page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Probably worth having a look on Thistle Weir Youth Academy facebook page. Or their website if they get the security certificates sorted! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlsarmy Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Thistleberight said: Great to hear, makes me re consider some of my posts in the now forgotten youth academy folding post. Thanks for the info Farty Towels. Any idea who the opposition was/is? We seem to do well with the other age groups but can’t seem to find the resources to develop the youths when we get to the point when they should join the paid ranks and become professional, think the budget was £32 k this year . So basically when the youngsters get to 17/18 yrs old the Club have got to make a decision probably on what stage they are in their development at that time, that’s one of the reasons why we don’t see more of our youth players making the step up to first team football . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted July 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Our U16/17 team won today's final 2-1 against Maiden City so are the Foyle Cup Champions The U15s play their semi final this afternoon so good luck to those guys! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partickthedog Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Thistleberight said: Great to hear, makes me re consider some of my posts in the now forgotten youth academy folding post. Thanks for the info Farty Towels. Any idea who the opposition was/is? What a wonderful name! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted July 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Rey Cup semi final Full time: Thistle 2FK Bodo Glimt 1 2005s round off a good day for the academy by qualifying for the Rey Cup Final. The final will be played in the Icelandic National Stadium tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Fawlty Towers said: Our U16/17 team won today's final 2-1 against Maiden City so are the Foyle Cup Champions The U15s play their semi final this afternoon so good luck to those guys! Any Partick Thistle cup win should be celebrated. 56 minutes ago, Fawlty Towers said: Rey Cup semi final Full time: Thistle 2FK Bodo Glimt 1 2005s round off a good day for the academy by qualifying for the Rey Cup Final. The final will be played in the Icelandic National Stadium tomorrow. Good luck tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rid Skwerr Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 Brilliant! Is that not about 2 or 3 years in a row that the youngsters have won that tournament? Someone's doing something right at youth level. Congratulations to all involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fawlty Towers said: Rey Cup semi final Full time: Thistle 2FK Bodo Glimt 1 2005s round off a good day for the academy by qualifying for the Rey Cup Final. The final will be played in the Icelandic National Stadium tomorrow. That’s a really good result, Bodø Glimt have a very decent youth set up. Currently they run 22 teams 6 year olds to U16, plus their U19’s. And that is only the boys teams. The youth set up, funding and facilities put Scotland to shame, clubs like Viking, Brann, Valeranga, Bodø, etc all have multiple 5g and 6g AstroTurf (also fully covered) which are better than the 3g and 4G that Accies and Killie use as their main pitch. Kids are coached to play, not tactics, taught early about fitness, diet plus act as a team even away from the games with fundraising (dugnads) events, trips etc. Even smaller clubs in the pyramid system like FK Vidar, Sola etc have better facilities than we have, all funded locally and with council and NFF support. These facilities are used every night of the week by the various teams Edited July 27, 2019 by Norgethistle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linlithgow Jag Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: That’s a really good result, Bodø Glimt have a very decent youth set up. Currently they run 22 teams 6 year olds to U16, plus their U19’s. And that is only the boys teams. The youth set up, funding and facilities put Scotland to shame, clubs like Viking, Brann, Valeranga, Bodø, etc all have multiple 5g and 6g AstroTurf (also fully covered) which are better than the 3g and 4G that Accies and Killie use as their main pitch. Kids are coached to play, not tactics, taught early about fitness, diet plus act as a team even away from the games with fundraising (dugnads) events, trips etc. Even smaller clubs in the pyramid system like FK Vidar, Sola etc have better facilities than we have, all funded locally and with council and NFF support. These facilities are used every night of the week by the various teams SFA. You taking notes here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 43 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: That’s a really good result, Bodø Glimt have a very decent youth set up. Currently they run 22 teams 6 year olds to U16, plus their U19’s. And that is only the boys teams. The youth set up, funding and facilities put Scotland to shame, clubs like Viking, Brann, Valeranga, Bodø, etc all have multiple 5g and 6g AstroTurf (also fully covered) which are better than the 3g and 4G that Accies and Killie use as their main pitch. Kids are coached to play, not tactics, taught early about fitness, diet plus act as a team even away from the games with fundraising (dugnads) events, trips etc. Even smaller clubs in the pyramid system like FK Vidar, Sola etc have better facilities than we have, all funded locally and with council and NFF support. These facilities are used every night of the week by the various teams Is this a fairly recent development in Norway. Do they expect the investment to pay off in terms of European/World success for the national team and European success for the club teams ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Is this a fairly recent development in Norway. Do they expect the investment to pay off in terms of European/World success for the national team and European success for the club teams ? At least last 10 years. Norway’s funding of all grass roots sports plus the ways communities and families get behind clubs (whether football, handball, hockey or athletics) is completely different than here. The investment isn’t only to have success its to keep (not make as in Scotland) fit, active and part of a group. Out of the enjoyment of the sports comes the success. Look at Norwegian Woman’s teams, the amount of Norwegian players that are or have played at highest levels in Europe in last 10 years compared to Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted July 27, 2019 Report Share Posted July 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Norgethistle said: At least last 10 years. Norway’s funding of all grass roots sports plus the ways communities and families get behind clubs (whether football, handball, hockey or athletics) is completely different than here. The investment isn’t only to have success its to keep (not make as in Scotland) fit, active and part of a group. Out of the enjoyment of the sports comes the success. Look at Norwegian Woman’s teams, the amount of Norwegian players that are or have played at highest levels in Europe in last 10 years compared to Scotland. Adding to this. Its a summer season they play so kids train in better weather. Every kids game you go to, someone takes a turn to run a stall selling coffee, hotdogs, waffles. Everyone buys so income to clubs increase, plus involvement is increased, and almost all parents attend all games. Parents and kids are set a remit at start of year, if kids don’t train or have right attitude and you don’t play even if your kid is the next big thing they won’t get match time unless they act part of the time. They also need to ensure the kids help with the kiosks on a rota when they aren’t playing. Up to U-14 all kids regardless of ability are welcomed (except at the academies) as they know kids develop differently, train hard, have right attitude and they get game time, even if it means entering a 2nd or 3rd team in tournaments or leagues, or playing more bounce games. Kids are encouraged to enjoy it and feel part of it. They also have training sessions with years above and below. The kids have to go through referee training so they can assist to referee games at younger levels (bounce games), they get to understand the rules and role of the ref. Now in Scotland many kids don’t play with a team from 10 or 11 as clubs don’t want them, kids train and play in atrocious weather and poor parks, parents don’t get involved except to shout at the ref from sidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Norgethistle said: Adding to this. Its a summer season they play so kids train in better weather. Every kids game you go to, someone takes a turn to run a stall selling coffee, hotdogs, waffles. Everyone buys so income to clubs increase, plus involvement is increased, and almost all parents attend all games. Parents and kids are set a remit at start of year, if kids don’t train or have right attitude and you don’t play even if your kid is the next big thing they won’t get match time unless they act part of the time. They also need to ensure the kids help with the kiosks on a rota when they aren’t playing. Up to U-14 all kids regardless of ability are welcomed (except at the academies) as they know kids develop differently, train hard, have right attitude and they get game time, even if it means entering a 2nd or 3rd team in tournaments or leagues, or playing more bounce games. Kids are encouraged to enjoy it and feel part of it. They also have training sessions with years above and below. The kids have to go through referee training so they can assist to referee games at younger levels (bounce games), they get to understand the rules and role of the ref. Now in Scotland many kids don’t play with a team from 10 or 11 as clubs don’t want them, kids train and play in atrocious weather and poor parks, parents don’t get involved except to shout at the ref from sidelines. There is a lot we can learn from the Scandinavian countries about a whole range of things. Norway has the benefit of having used their oil money better than us, I guess and/or has higher taxes to pay for these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyo Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Lenziejag said: There is a lot we can learn from the Scandinavian countries about a whole range of things. Norway has the benefit of having used their oil money better than us, I guess and/or has higher taxes to pay for these things. And they're also about a foot taller than us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norgethistle Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Lenziejag said: There is a lot we can learn from the Scandinavian countries about a whole range of things. Norway has the benefit of having used their oil money better than us, I guess and/or has higher taxes to pay for these things. Definitely, with the difference being the oil money was all going to the country as the oil company (Statoil now Equinor) being fully now partly government owned, something they could do by not being in the EU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 22 hours ago, lady-isobel-barnett said: Probably worth having a look on Thistle Weir Youth Academy facebook page. Thanks but this forum is the extent of my on line capabilities........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 22 hours ago, jlsarmy said: We seem to do well with the other age groups but can’t seem to find the resources to develop the youths when we get to the point when they should join the paid ranks and become professional, think the budget was £32 k this year . So basically when the youngsters get to 17/18 yrs old the Club have got to make a decision probably on what stage they are in their development at that time, that’s one of the reasons why we don’t see more of our youth players making the step up to first team football . To be fair most clubs are the same. And we did give contracts to 3 this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 16 hours ago, partickthedog said: What a wonderful name! I stole it. I'd watched the series over and over and over. For years and years and never noticed that in every episode the Fawlty Towers sign in the opening credits was changed around to make two words.......dunno how I'd missed it for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARu-Strathbungo Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Lenziejag said: There is a lot we can learn from the Scandinavian countries about a whole range of things. Norway has the benefit of having used their oil money better than us, I guess and/or has higher taxes to pay for these things. Norway also had the benefit of having a small population [compared to UK] with a large oil income, and unfortunately the UK still had loans to pay off from WWII, so much of the early oil revenues were used to pay off national debt. I noticed in my years of working in Norway that there was always a good sports structure in all of the various communes across the whole of Norway, and there seemed to be a spread of interest across all of the sports, example:- I remember finding a range of discus's for sale in a SPAR shop in Stavanger!! But back to the topic of the forum …. hopefully the teams who participated in the various competitions will make an appearance at one of the games …. and lets us celebrate a cup of some description Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted July 28, 2019 Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 Good read and listen here https://www.derryjournal.com/sport/football/foyle-cup-joy-for-partick-thistle-1-9013810 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawlty Towers Posted July 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2019 The U15s have won the Rey Cup beating KA (not Kenny Arthur I hope) 2-0 in the final - well done guys! The youngsters have lead the way now lets hope the first team can do the same this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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