East Kent Jag II Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 Spoke too soon! Perhaps l should have added "So far". Back now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 National League clubs in England (5 tier) to receive an emergency government grant. Based on, and because of lack of gate receipts, with this league relying on that income. Expected to be £2 to 3 million per month. Talks with EFL over £250 million bailout ongoing. I believe still to be funded by PL clubs. What exactly is the SPFL & SFA doing for our clubs? Can anyone enlighten me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaggernaut Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 6 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: And that is before the players welfare. There is no testing or bubbles enforced in the lower leagues and (despite the best efforts of our defense to prove otherwise) no options for social distancing at the workplace. As others have said, many of the players are part time and will be employed in jobs where they come into contact with the general public. It is a formula for the virus to spread itself widely in the player/staff community. While most of the players are of an age where the symptoms should be minimal, there is the chance that one or more could become serious. Is that a risk that we should be putting the players through ? I know there is the counter that the fulltime players need the money to survive and that the risk assessment for them would be different, however the vast majority of players in leagues 1 and 2 are part time and have other income sources to fall back on. Except that many of the businesses or organizations that the part-time players work for are also likely to be either mothballed or kaput, which could mean next to zero income for those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Auld Jag said: 5 Subs will be allowed in league games next season. But only 3 in the Championship! Does the Hearts squad frighten them. According to the Clyde website, only 3 subs in all league play off games, with a 4th allowed in any extra time. . . Edited September 30, 2020 by East Kent Jag II Play off changes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifexile Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 56 minutes ago, East Kent Jag II said: National League clubs in England (5 tier) to receive an emergency government grant. Based on, and because of lack of gate receipts, with this league relying on that income. Expected to be £2 to 3 million per month. Talks with EFL over £250 million bailout ongoing. I believe still to be funded by PL clubs. What exactly is the SPFL & SFA doing for our clubs? Can anyone enlighten me? as far as I can see they are doing SFA 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 According to a report in the Daily Record this season's Challenge Cup is to be shelved. Thats a relief then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, East Kent Jag II said: According to a report in the Daily Record this season's Challenge Cup is to be shelved. Thats a relief then. On thinking about it, I'm expecting last season's Challenge Cup to be gifted to Wraith Rovers. After all they got the League in giftwrap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, East Kent Jag II said: According to a report in the Daily Record this season's Challenge Cup is to be shelved. Thats a relief then. That makes absolute sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elevenone Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 I see Kilmarnock’s match off tonight and entire first team squad to isolate for fortnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 English National League clubs get a UK government £10 million grant to cover then for fan non-attendance. This is for a 3 month period, with the possibility of more to follow. SPFL - come in SPFL, can you hear me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/1/2020 at 7:40 AM, East Kent Jag II said: According to a report in the Daily Record this season's Challenge Cup is to be shelved. Thats a relief then. Now official. 34 of the 42 league clubs voted against playing the challenge cup this season. So the only competition in Scottish professional football this season with a sponsor, is the league cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 hours ago, East Kent Jag II said: English National League clubs get a UK government £10 million grant to cover then for fan non-attendance. This is for a 3 month period, with the possibility of more to follow. SPFL - come in SPFL, can you hear me? Is football a devolved area ? Also what would the equivalent league be ? Highland and lowland leagues maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Is football a devolved area ? Also what would the equivalent league be ? Highland and lowland leagues maybe. Pretty sure that sport, media and culture is devolved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: Is football a devolved area ? Also what would the equivalent league be ? Highland and lowland leagues maybe. I'm not certain, but although I think that as DD has said, football is a media culture and sport is a devolved area, the SPFL have been totally silent about trying to get government aid. The money mentioned is going to the National league, but there are ongoing discussions for the EPLto provide some assistance for English leagues 1 & 2. Despite UK government hopes that such funding may come about, it is by no means certain. Highland and Lowland leagues are probably the equivalent to the ENL, but there is no chance of SPL clubs funding lower leagues1 & 2. I may be wrong, but I thought there was a Barnet Formula knock on that the Scottish government could get, and all lower league Scottish clubs could benefit from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted October 2, 2020 Report Share Posted October 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, East Kent Jag II said: I'm not certain, but although I think that as DD has said, football is a media culture and sport is a devolved area, the SPFL have been totally silent about trying to get government aid. The money mentioned is going to the National league, but there are ongoing discussions for the EPLto provide some assistance for English leagues 1 & 2. Despite UK government hopes that such funding may come about, it is by no means certain. Highland and Lowland leagues are probably the equivalent to the ENL, but there is no chance of SPL clubs funding lower leagues1 & 2. I may be wrong, but I thought there was a Barnet Formula knock on that the Scottish government could get, and all lower league Scottish clubs could benefit from. I have no confidence in the SPFL to give any money they received to go to lower league clubs only. When Ann Budge first spoke of the Anderson donation, that was meant for lower league clubs and look what happened with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenziejag Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 9 hours ago, East Kent Jag II said: I'm not certain, but although I think that as DD has said, football is a media culture and sport is a devolved area, the SPFL have been totally silent about trying to get government aid. The money mentioned is going to the National league, but there are ongoing discussions for the EPLto provide some assistance for English leagues 1 & 2. Despite UK government hopes that such funding may come about, it is by no means certain. Highland and Lowland leagues are probably the equivalent to the ENL, but there is no chance of SPL clubs funding lower leagues1 & 2. I may be wrong, but I thought there was a Barnet Formula knock on that the Scottish government could get, and all lower league Scottish clubs could benefit from. I don’t think it covers all public spending so not sure if culture, media and sport. Even if it is, it might not be ringfenced, so the Scottish Govt could spend it on what they like. The other barrier to lower league clubs benefitting is as you say is the SPFL board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifexile Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 I wonder if the SPFL actually have any money at the moment to pay out. I think the only money likely to be coming in is from Sky and good luck persuading the Premier League clubs and the SPFL to share that with any other clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Jag II Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 56 minutes ago, Lenziejag said: I don’t think it covers all public spending so not sure if culture, media and sport. Even if it is, it might not be ringfenced, so the Scottish Govt could spend it on what they like. The other barrier to lower league clubs benefitting is as you say is the SPFL board. I fully agree with you that the SG could decide not to make such funds available to football. From a distance my perception is that they are at worst hostile and more likely ambivalent to Scottish football. (e.g. The football "yellow card " , but sod all to rugby player breaches.) Perhaps consistent problems with the Ugly Sisters fans tints their perception of football. As you and AJ say, the SPFL are not to be trusted , with their SPL top heavy board, and past behaviour. So perhaps I'm whistling in the wind for financial aid. I'm sure the club's worse case budget, with no fans for the season won't include state aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, fifexile said: I wonder if the SPFL actually have any money at the moment to pay out. I know where they could find £380000. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAGSMAN1968 Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 Plus well deserved bonus! "SPFL pay chief Neil Doncaster huge £91k performance bonus despite drop in revenue" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 The non League clubs who get an invite to enter the challenge cup only new the competition had been cancelled through Twitter. Another example of the SPFL communication skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 14 hours ago, Auld Jag said: I have no confidence in the SPFL to give any money they received to go to lower league clubs only. When Ann Budge first spoke of the Anderson donation, that was meant for lower league clubs and look what happened with that. Why would the SPFL be involved if it is money for non league clubs ? It’s nothing to do with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lady-isobel-barnett Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 Sensible move scrapping the Challenge Cup. Don't believe it would have been wise to have teams crossing borders to compete. And let's face it a competition without the likes of Solihull Moors and Bray Wanderers just wouldn't seem the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Why would the SPFL be involved if it is money for non league clubs ? It’s nothing to do with them Hi DD, when i say lower league clubs i don't mean non league. I mean below the premier league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Jag Posted October 3, 2020 Report Share Posted October 3, 2020 Neil Doncaster on sportsound this afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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